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Defense Acquisition 
History Project: 

Oral History Finding Aid 



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Defense Acquisition History Project: 
Oral History Finding Aid 

Shannon A. Brown 
September 2005 







Defense Acquisition History Project — Oral History Finding Aid 
Preface 


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In 2000, the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD) and the U.S. Army Center of Military 
History (CMH) initiated a multi-year historical effort to examine the history of defense 
acquisition since 1945. 

Given the enormous scope of the subject and gaps in the written record, the Defense Acquisition 
History Project team identified oral history interviews as a valuable supplement to the archival 
sources that will form the foundation of the study. Useful as sources of anecdotal and 
corroborative information, oral history interviews provide insights into the policy and decision¬ 
making processes that often cannot be found in official and other records. The project team 
undertook this oral history resource survey project for the purpose of assembling the collective 
institutional memory of the defense acquisition community. 

Nearly 750 oral history interviews are detailed in this publication, including several interviews 
conducted by members of the Defense Acquisition History Project since the first edition of this 
survey came out in 2001. It should be emphasized, however, that this work is not an exhaustive 
list of interviews that relate to acquisition in the Department of Defense, but instead represents 
only the first-year surveying effort of a multi-year project. Oral history in the Department of 
Defense is an ongoing activity, and, as such, the hard work of civilian and uniformed historians 
will continue to yield interviews that are relevant to the history of acquisition. Additional 
updates and revisions to this finding aid may be made available in subsequent years to include 
these new materials. 

Using the Finding Aid 

The interviews listed on the pages that follow are organized alphabetically and numbered 
sequentially; a complete keyword and subject index can be found at the back of this volume. 
The search terms used in this index include program and system names, place names, persons, 
and significant keywords. 

To obtain copies of the oral history interview transcripts listed in this finding aid, contact the 
repositories identified with each entry. 

Repository Abbreviations 

AFHRA - Air Force Historical Research Agency 

ARL - Army Research Laboratory 

COL - Columbia University Oral History Research Office 

DAHP - Defense Acquisition History Project 

DTRC - David Taylor Research Center 

NADC - Naval Air Development Center 

NASM - Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum 

NHC - Naval Historical Center 

NRL - Naval Research Laboratory 

NWC - Naval Weapons Center 

USAMC - U.S. Army Materiel Command 


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USAMCOM - U.S. Army Aviation and Missile Command 

USAOSC - U.S. Army Operations Support Command 

USASC-FG - U.S. Army Signal Center 

USNA - U.S. Naval Academy 

USNI - U.S. Naval Institute Oral History Program 

Caveats 

The Department of Defense and the Armed Services use different citation formats for oral 
history interviews. In addition, restrictions on the use of the oral history interviews cited in this 
finding aid vary according to the specific restrictions imposed by the interviewee and the 
applicable rules and regulations of the repository that retains custody of the interview. Please 
consult the appropriate staff historians and archivists to determine the correct citation format and 
to identify any applicable reproduction or citation restrictions before using these interviews in a 
publication. 

Finally, the reader should bear in mind that defense acquisition is a term that encompasses a 
wide range of defense activities, including research and development, program management, 
fielding, testing and evaluation, and logistics and procurement, among other functions. All of the 
interviews detailed in this finding aid include specific information about acquisition, but only in 
a fraction of these interviews were acquisition issues the focus of the entire exchange between 
historian and interviewee. Whenever possible, subject and abstract information has been 
provided to give the researcher a sense of how much relevant material can be found in an 
interview. 

For further information contact the Defense Acquisition History Project at the U.S. Army Center 
of Military History, Building 35, 103 Third Avenue, Fort McNair, DC 20319-5058, or Dr. 
Jeffrey Clarke at 202-685-2709. 


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List of Historical Offices Contacted 

In addition to the project’s own oral history projects, the Defense Acquisition History Project team 
contacted several DoD historical offices to obtain information about their oral history holdings. The 
project archivists requested information about these offices’ respective oral history holdings, to 
include the number and scope of oral histories on file, how they were organized, the number that had 
been transcribed, and the number that had been digitized. In addition, the project archivists 
requested oral history bibliographies from these offices. The project archivists contacted the 
following offices: 

Office of the Secretary of Defense 

Historical Office 

Office of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff 
Joint History Office 
Department of the Air Force 

Office of the Air Force Historian 

- Air Force Historical Research Agency 

- Air Force History Support Office 

Department of the Army 

U.S. Army Center of Military History 
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers 
U.S. Army Forces Command 
U.S. Army Materiel Command 

- U.S. Army Armament Research and Development Center 

- U.S. Army Aviation and Missile Command 

- U.S. Army Communications and Electronics Command 

- U.S. Army Operations Support Command 

- U.S. Army Research Laboratory 

- U.S. Army Security Assistance Command 

- U.S. Army Simulation, Training and Instrumentation Command 

- U.S. Army Solider and Biological Defense Command 

- U.S. Army Tank-Automotive and Armaments Command 
U.S. Army Military History Institute 

U.S. Army Signal Command 
U.S. Army Space and Missile Defense Command 
U.S. Army Special Operations Command 
U.S. Army Test and Evaluation Command 
U.S. Army Training and Doctrine Command 

- Deputy Commanding General for Transformation 

- U.S. Army Air Defense Artillery Center 

- U.S. Army Armor Center 

- U.S. Army Aviation Center 


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- U.S. Army Chemical School 

- U.S. Army Combined Arms Support Command 

- U.S. Army Command and General Staff College 

- Center for Army Lessons Learned 

- Combat Studies Institute 

- U.S. Army Engineer School 

- U.S. Army Field Artillery Center 

- U.S. Army Ordnance Center 

- U.S. Army Quartermaster Center 

- U.S. Army Signal Center 

- U.S. Army Transformation Center 
U.S. Army War College 

U.S. Military Academy 

Department of the Navy 

Naval Historical Center 

United States Marine Corps 

Marine Corps History and Museums Division 

Joint, Specified and Unified Commands 

U.S. Central Command 
U.S. European Command 
U.S. Pacific Command 
U.S. Southern Command 

U.S. Space Command/North American Aerospace Defense Command 
U.S. Special Operations Command 
U.S. Strategic Command 
U.S. Transportation Command 

United States Coast Guard 

Coast Guard History Office 
Defense Agencies 

Ballistic Missile Defense Organization 
Defense Information Systems Agency 
Defense Logistics Agency 


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Oral History Finding Aid Listing 


Abrahamson, Lt. Gen. James A. 

Air Force Strategic Defense Initiative Organization 

Subject: Ballistic Missile Defense 

Interviewer: Lt. Col. Donald R. Baucom, SDIO Historian 

Date of Interview: 16 May 1987 

Place of Interview: The Pentagon, Washington DC 

Location: BMDO History Office 

Abrahamson, Lt. Gen. James A. 

Air Force Strategic Defense Initiative Organization 

Subject: Ballistic Missile Defense 

Interviewer: Lt. Col. Donald R. Baucom, SDIO Historian 

Date of Interview: 3 November 1988 

Place of Interview: The Pentagon, Washington DC 

Location: BMDO History Office 

Abrams, Bernard 

Navy Army - Manhattan Engineer District/Project 

Subject: Acquisition - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of naval torpedo developments, WWTI- 1970s; Mk27 
model 4 torpedo; Mk37 torpedo; development of torpedo fire 
control equipment; Mk48 torpedo; discussion of current (ca. 1989) 
military R&D programs 

Biography: Civilian research engineer: Penn State Ordnance Research Lab 
(WWII); Rusk Development Company; Clevite 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1970s 

Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 

Date of Interview: 28-29 August 1989; 9 September 1989 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 98 

Location: DTRC 

Abrams, Robert 

Navy Navy - Navy Laboratories 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Review of the history of the Office of the Director of Navy 
Laboratories; includes discussion of creation of office, first 
personnel, selection of DNLs 

Biography: Staff member, Office of the Director of Navy Laboratories 

Interview Coverage: 1960s-1980s 

Interviewer: Dr. David K. Allison 

Date of Interview: 5 July 1983 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 


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Pages: 8 
Location: DTRC 

Ackerman, MG Michael W. 

Army Army - Signal Command 

Subject: Communications - Army 

Contents: Exit interview. 

Biography: Commander, U.S. Army Signal Center; Chief of Signal 
Date of Interview: 1997 
Interview Medium: Tape - Video 
Location: USASC-FG 

Adams, Dale G. 

Army Army - Materiel Command 

Subject: Acquisition - Army 

Biography: Principal Deputy, Acquisition 
Date of Interview: 6 February 1998 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: published interview 
Location: USAMC 

Adkins, Dr. John 

Navy Navy - Office of Naval Research 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Review of studies of R&D during McNamara period; discussion of 
Naval Research Advisory Committee; remarks about navy labs, the 
Mansfield Amendment, Blue Ribbon Defense Panel; Navy Industrial 
Funding; Project REFLEX; impact of the creation of the National 
Science Foundation on ONR; centralized management of navy 
R&D 

Biography: Head of Geophysics at ONR; Assistant Chief Scientist of ONR 

Interview Coverage: 1950s-1980s 
Interviewer: Vincent Ponko, Jr. 

Date of Interview: 9 April 1981 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 48 
Location: DTRC 

Adolph, Charles E. 

Air Force Test and Evaluation Office, Air Force 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - OSD 

Biography: Deputy Director, Defense Research and Engineering (Test and 

Evaluation) (DDR&E[T&E]), Office of the Secretary of Defense, 
Washington DC, August 1987 - December 1991; Director of Test 
and Evaluation, Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for 
Acquisition and Technology, December 1991 - January 1994 
Interviewer: Richard P. Hallion 
Date of Interview: 29 July 1993 - 15 April 1994 


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Place of Interview: Office of the Air Force Historian, Washington DC 
Length of Interview: 8 hours 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Title: "A Career in Test and Evaluation: Reflections and Observations" 

Place of Publication: Washington DC 

Publisher: Air Force History and Museums Program/Air University Press 
Date of Publication: 1998 

Agan, Lt. Gen. Arthur C. 

Air Force 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Agan's role in development of F-15 air-superiority fighter; difficulties 
encountered in selling elements within Air Force on need for 
single-purpose air-to-air fighter; running battle with Enthoven; 
conclusion of two study groups, one composed of experienced 
fighter pilots who were triple aces and other composed of high-level 
officials from Office of the Secretary of Defense and Air Force; 
role of A-7; relative merits of missiles versus guns on air-to-air 
fighter; brief remarks on design of F-15 
Interview Coverage: 1964-1970 

Interviewer: Jacob Neufeld, Office of Air Force History 
Date of Interview: 2 October 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 43 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 857 
Location: AFHRA 

Agnew, Harold 

Navy Army - Manhattan Engineer District/Project 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of Tinian; test flights; small nuclear weapons and 
communications problems involved 
Interview Coverage: 1940s 
Interviewer: Albert B. Christman 
Date of Interview: January 1967 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 22 

Location: DTRC, NWC, NHC 

Albright, BG Anthony 

Army Army - Signal Command 

Subject: Communications - Army 

Contents: Audio tape exists in ACC #404-92,14-3-4, Box 1. 

Biography: Commanding General, U.S. Army Electronics Supply Center, 

Dayton, OH 

Date of Interview: 20 April 1987 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Finding Aids: Collection ACC #88-20, 11-2-2 


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Location: USASC-FG 


Allard, Dr. Dean C. 

Navy Navy - Office of Naval Research 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of origins of radar and anti-radar 

Interview Coverage: 1930s-1940s 

Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig, III 

Date of Interview: May 1985 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 16 

Location: NWC 

Allen, Chester 
Marine Corps 

Subject: Logistics - Marine Corps 

Contents: Discussion of early USMC service; barrage balloon program, 

1943-1946; supply officer duties for Marine operations in Korea; 
service as Quartermaster General of the Marine Corps 
Biography: USMC Service, 1929-1963; Quartermaster General of the Marine 
Corps 

Interview Coverage: 1920s-1960s 

Interviewer: Mr. Benis M. Frank and Major Lloyd E. Tatem 

Date of Interview: 1969 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 383 

Location: Marine Corps Historical Center 

Allen, Gen. Lewis, Jr. 

Air Force Air Force - Chief of Staff 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Strategic missiles; B-l bomber; A-10 attack aircraft; other aircraft; 
role of scientific officers; working relationship with members of 
Carter Administration 

Biography: Commander, Air Force Systems Command; Chief of Staff, USAF, 
HQ USAF, Washington DC, 1978-1982 
Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: January 1986 
Length of Interview: 7:00 hours 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Access Information: Pending 
Finding Aids: AFHRA 1694 
Location: AFHRA 


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Allen, General Lewis, Jr. 

Air Force Air Force - Chief of Staff, Commander, Systems Command 

Subject: Air Force R&D, Program Management; Policy 

Contents: AFSC; management of the B-l program; Air Force Logistics Command and 

materiel support; logistics procurement and trade-offs between commands; C-5 
program; C-17 program; the effects of inflation on the procurement process; cost 
estimating; Total Package Procurement and fixed-price procurement; the 
“revolving door” problem between government and industry; stealth 
development; DARPA programs; technology; precision weapons; F-5; F-15; 
acquisition budgets in the 1970s; acquisition corps; NRO; Secretary of Defense 
Harold Brown; Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger; MX missile system; 
Cruise missile development; hardware testing; prioritizing acquisition 
requirements and decisions; foreign sales; acquisition budgets under President 
Carter versus President Reagan; acquisition reform; relations with Congress 
Biography: Commander, Air Force Systems Command; Chief of Staff, USAF, 

HQ USAF, Washington DC, 1978-1982 

Interview Coverage: 1970s-1990s 

Interviewer: Walton S. Moody 

Date of Interview: 22 January 2003 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper/Electronic 

Access Information: Pending 

Pages: 50 

Location: DAHP 

Alpers, Frederick C. 

Navy Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Guided Missiles 

Contents: Discussion of early guided missile programs (Bat, Pelican); nuclear 
weapons and conventional research; shift in missile research to the 
Naval Ordnance Laboratory at Corona, CA; Walleye n, Puma 
missile projects (joint interview with Dr. Robert Fletcher) 

Interview Coverage: 1950s-1960s 
Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig, HI 
Date of Interview: 27 January 1981 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 89 

Location: NWC, DTRC, NHC 

Alpers, Frederick C. 

Navy 

Subject: Guided Missiles 

Contents: Discussion of early guided missiles; transcript is part of an 

institutional memory/historical exhibit project; missiles described in 
interview include Moth, Pelican, Bat, Robin, Bat U/BATTU, 

Corvus, Petrel, Grebe, Puffin, E-0 Bullpup, Flycatcher, 

Gnatcatcher, Mockingbird, Walleye II, Shrike, Standard ARM, 
others 

Interview Coverage: 1950s-1960s 


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Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig, III 
Date of Interview: 16 November 1982 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: access limited 
Pages: 76 
Location: NWC 


Alvarez, Dr. Luis W. 

Army - Manhattan Engineer District/Project 
Subject: Atomic Energy 

Contents: Discussion of ADM Parsons, Manhattan Project, Los Alamos 
laboratory 

Biography: Physicist; Manhattan Project participant 

Interview Coverage: 1940s 

Interviewer: Albert Christman 

Date of Interview: March 1967 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 32 

Location: NWC, DTRC 

Amann, Col. Richard W. 

Air Force Air Force - Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force- 

Contents: Assumed command of AFSC eight months after its establishment; 
development of new organization; development of AFSC 
automation program 

Biography: Commander, Research and Acquisition Division, Air Force Systems 
Command (AFSC), August 1986 

Interviewer: Andrew Birtle, AFSC Research and Acquisition Division History 
Date of Interview: 13 October 1987 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 31 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1779 
Location: AFHRA 

Amilie, Dr. Thomas S. 

Navy Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Guided Missiles 

Contents: Reflections on career at NWC; Sidewinder Missile project; 

Semi-active Radar Homing missile (SARAH) project; Harpoon 
missile 

Biography: Researcher at Naval Weapons Center; Technical Director at NWC 

Interview Coverage: 1950s-1970s 

Interviewer: Michelle Ballinger 

Date of Interview: 24 August 1976 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 


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Pages: 27 

Location: NWC,DTRC 


Amilie, Dr. Thomas S. 

Navy Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Guided Missiles 

Contents: Discussion of “black” missile programs; NWC relationships with HQ 
and USAF; multi-service R&D programs; problem programs 
(F/A-18, F-lll, AMRAAM) 

Biography: Technical Director, Naval Weapons Center 

Interview Coverage: 1950s-1970s 
Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig, El 
Date of Interview: 30 June 1983 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: access limited 
Pages: 24 
Location: NWC 

Amilie, et al, Dr. Thomas S. 

Navy Naval Ordnance Test Station 

Subject: Guided Missiles 

Contents: Reflections on careers at Naval Ordnance Test Station (NOTS); role of NOTS 
during Korean War; group discussion of Sidewinder missile development 
program; NOTS/NWC management philosophy; 1967 reorganization of Navy 
R&D 

Biography: Group discussion - members of the Sidewinder development 
program at NOTS/NWC 

Interview Coverage: 1950s-1970s 
Interviewer: William F. Wright and Budd Gott 
Date of Interview: 14 March 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 101 

Location: NWC, DTRC 

Anderson, Dr. Carl 

Navy Naval Ordnance Test Station 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of early rockets for use on aircraft; B-18 aircraft; need 
for a “rocket czar” to direct development programs; civil-military 
relations at NOTS; work at CalTech rocket program 
Interview Coverage: 1940s-1950s 
Interviewer: Albert B. Christman 
Date of Interview: 3 October 1970 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 14 

Location: NWC, DTRC, NHC 


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Anderson, Evan 

Navy OSD - Secretary of Defense 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Comments on Navy R&D; McNamara and Laird eras; Congress' 

role in R&D; work in OSD as part of the Base Utilization Division; 
Director of Defense Research and Engineering (DDR&E) reports; 
military-industrial relationships 

Biography: Staff, OSD; Franklin Arsenal staff; Special Assistant, Chief of 

Ordnance (navy); work at Office of Director of Defense Research; 
National Science Foundation 

Interview Coverage: 1950s-1970s 
Interviewer :Dr. Vincent Ponko, Jr. 

Date of Interview: 4 November 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 29 
Location: DTRC 

Anderson, Gen. Samuel E. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Materiel Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: WSEG; ARDC; AMC; ALC 

Biography: Director, Plans and Operations, Office of Deputy Chief of Staff for 
Operations, HQ USAF, Washington DC, February 1948 - August 
1950; Commander, Eighth Air Force, Carswell AFB, TX, August 
1950 - May 1953; Commander, Fifth Air Force, Korea, May 1953 
- May 1954; Director, Weapon System Evaluation Group 
(WSEG), Office of the Secretary of Defense for Research and 
Development, Washington DC, May 1954 - August 1957; 
Commander, Air Research and Development Command (ARDC), 
Baltimore, MD, August 1957 - March 1959; Commander, Air 
Materiel Command (AMC)/Air Logistics Command (ALC), 
Wright-Patterson AFB, OH, March 1959 - August 1963 
Interviewer: Hugh N. Ahmann 
Date of Interview: 28-30 June 1976 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 551 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 905 
Location: AFHRA 

Andrews, Dr. Dan 

Navy Naval Ocean Systems Center 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Work at NOSC; differences between NOTS and NOSC 
Biography: Staff, NOSC 

Interview Coverage: 1960s-1970s 
Interviewer: Albert B. Christman 


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Date of Interview: March 1978 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 13 
Location: DTRC 

Andrews, Dr. Dan 

Navy Naval Ordnance Test Station 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Work at NOTS during and after WWH; discussion of war-time and 
peacetime funding for R&D; effects of compartmentalization on 
R&D efforts 
Biography: Staff, NOTS 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1960s 
Interviewer: Albert B. Christman 
Date of Interview: March 1978 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 13 
Location: DTRC 

Appel, Maj. Bernard 

Air Force Air Force - Pacific Air Forces 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: Weapon delivery evaluation program and regulation covering this 
program in Pacific Air Forces Manual 55-25 
Interview Coverage: 1967-1968 
Interviewer: Maj. Joseph Smith, USAF 
Date of Interview: September 1970 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: SECRET; Corona Harvest 
Pages: 3 

Finding Aids: AFHRA467 
Location: AFHRA 

Appleby, CMSgt Jerald 

Air Force Air Force - Systems Command 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: Development of AC-130 gunship. 

Biography: Participated in initial combat test program for AC-130 gunship in 
Southeast Asia; served multiple tours as AC-130 flight engineer in 
Southeast Asia 

Interviewer: Hugh N. Ahmann 
Date of Interview: January 1988 
Length of Interview: 2:00 hours 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Access Information: Pending 
Finding Aids: AFHRA 1786 
Location: AFHRA 


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Appleton, Robert 

Navy National Defense Research Committee 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of rocket work within Section H, NDRC; construction at 
the Naval Powder Factory, Indian Head; changing military receptions 
of the rocket and aircraft testing; involvement of National Bureau of 
Standards and CalTech; living conditions at China Lake 
Biography: Researcher, Section H, NDRC 
Interview Coverage: 1940s-1950s 
Interviewer: Albert B. Christman 
Date of Interview: 15 April 1969 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 31 
Location: DTRC 

Appold, Norman C. 

Defense Industry Lockheed Corporation 
Subject: Defense Industry 

Contents: Power Plant Laboratory, Wright-Patterson AFB, OH, 1955; liquid 
hydrogen bomb technology; original study of C-5 versus proposal 
specifications; Military Airlift Command inputs to C-5 A; ex-US AF 
personnel employed with defense contractors; Army inputs to C-5A 
development; comments on "goldplating"; development of C-5A 
kneeling landing gear; C-5A cost data development; relationship 
between USAF systems program office and Lockheed; progress 
payments; reasons for cost growth on C-5 A contract; contractor 
"buy-ins"; Lockheed-USAF relations; cost overruns; Ernest 
Fitzgerald, DOD civilian; internal Lockheed problems with C-5A; 
government in-plant surveillance 

Biography: Joined Lockheed Corporation, 1963; Project Director, C-5A 
aircraft program, Lockheed Corporation 

Interview Coverage: 1946-1973 
Interviewer: Lt. Col. Lyn R. Officer 
Date of Interview: 12-13 December 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 133 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 697 
Location: AFHRA 

Arbuckle, MG Joseph W. 

Army Army - Operations Support Command 

Subject: Logistics - Army 

Contents: Discussion of career; smart munitions; partnerships with the private 
sector; Arsenal Act and Arsenal Workload Decisions; Triad; Total 
Quality Army; Munitions and Armaments Command (MAC); Field 
Support Command (FSC); Transition to Operations Support 
Command; Revolution in Military Logistics 
Biography: Commanding General, USAOSC, 24 September 1998 - 11 


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Interview Coverage: 1998-2000 
Interviewer: Thomas J. Slattery 
Date of Interview: 1 September 2000 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 26 
Location: USAOSC 

Armstrong, MG Alan J. 

Marine Corps 

Subject: Logistics - Marine Corps 

Contents: "Best stays" rule for shipping equipment during U.S. withdrawal 
from Vietnam; Operation Mixmaster versus unit rotation; 
dual-purpose aircraft; Marine KC-130 transport capability; 
sea-based mobile logistics system 
Interview Coverage: 1962-1973 
Date of Interview: September 1973; October 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 72 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1155 
Location: AFHRA 

Arnold, RADM Henry 

Navy Naval Electronic Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of disestablishment of Naval Material Command 
and establishment of Space and Naval Warfare 
Systems Command (SPAWAR); discussion of NAVELEX; 
interaction of navy and external research and development centers; 
coordination of system development and acquisition among the 
system commands 
Interviewer:Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 20 February 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 20 
Location: DTRC 

Ashworth, VADM Frederick L. 

Navy Army - Manhattan Engineer District/Project 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of atomic bomb program, role of ADM Parsons in 
Manhattan Project; recollections about weather conditions and 
bomb drop decision during Krokura/Nagasaki raid 
Interview Coverage: 1940s 
Interviewer: John Burnett 
Date of Interview: 1956 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 


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Access Information: Open 
Pages: 62 

Location: NWC, DTRC 

Ashworth, VADM Frederick L. 

Navy Naval Proving Ground 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of ADM William S. Parsons; testing of 500-lb bombs at 
Naval Proving Grounds; Bikini bomb tests; remarks about post-war 
Navy R&D 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1950s 
Interviewer: Albert B. Christman 
Date of Interview: April 1969 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 38 

Location: NWC, DTRC, NHC 

Ashworth, VADM Frederick L. 

Navy Army - Manhattan Engineer District/Project 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of role of ADM Parsons in Manhattan Project; Parsons' 
administrative style; remarks about industry and Navy and weapons 
R&D; effects of short officer tours on R&D; brief discussion of 
NWC and Navy R&D 
Interview Coverage: 1940s-1950s 
Interviewer: Albert Christman 
Date of Interview: 10 April 1969 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 98 

Location: NWC, DTRC, NHC 

Astin, Allen V. 

Government National Bureau of Standards 

Subject: Research and Development 

Biography: Director of National Bureau of Standards, 1953-1961 

Interview Coverage: 1953-1961 
Date of Interview: 1967 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: written permission required to cite, quote, or reproduce 
Pages: 58 

Finding Aids: OH 49 
Location: Eisenhower Library 

Atkins, Arthur G. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: C-141B aircraft stretch modification program from 1973. 


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Interview Coverage: 1973-1980 

Interviewer: Benjamin Vincent, Warner Robins Air Logistics Center 
Date of Interview: 12 September 1981 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 56 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1262 
Location: AFHRA 

Augenstein, Bruno 

Defense Industry RAND 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Discussion of early jet projects; ramjet propulsion; RAND contract 
with Air Force; relationship between Navy and Aerophysics Lab 
(Huntsville/Von Braun); ICBM and satellite development projects; 
work with social scientists 

Biography: RAND engineer (to 1958); Lockheed engineer 

Interview Coverage: 1927-1965 

Interviewer: Martin Collins and Joseph Tartarewicz 

Date of Interview: 28 July 1986; 9 Jan 1987 

Length of Interview: 2 hours 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 65 

Location: NASM 

Augustine, Norman 

Army, Defense Industry R&D 

Subject: Research and Development - Army; Program Management; Policy 

Contents: Discussion of competitive prototyping, concurrency, fixed-price contracting; the 
R&D process and Congress; the DeLauer study; Army R&D during the Vietnam 
War; R&D and the role of Army Materiel Command; the Fitzhugh Commission; 
the Army’s Big Five; USD David Packard; the Packard Commission; the specter 
of contractor over-charging; R&D and the JCS; R&D within and among the 
services; the Grace Commission; acquisitions at OSD level 

Biography: Under Secretary of the Army 1975-1977; Assistant Secretary of the Army 
(R&D), 1973-1975; CEO Martin-Marietta 

Interview Coverage: 1960s-1970s 

Interviewer: Andrew J. Butrica and Walton S. Moody 

Date of Interview: 28 May 2004 

Length of Interview: 2 hours 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper/Electronic 

Access Information: Pending 

Pages: 51 

Location: DAHP 

Austin, Maj. Gen. Gordon H. 

Air Force 

Subject: Procurement - Air Force 

Contents: Service in Pentagon; origin of Tactical Air Command; design of 

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early jet fighter aircraft; U.S-Canada Air Defense Committee; 
Military Assistance Advisory Group; associates in military career; 
attendance at Air War College and National War College; Joint 
Strategic Plans Group at Pentagon; Air Defense Command; North 
American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD); Alaskan Air 
Command; F-36 aircraft; conditions in Alaska; Air Staff Weapons 
Board at Pentagon; effect of Secretary of Defense Robert S. 
McNamara on Department of Defense; Skybolt project to develop 
aerospace bomber aircraft; command and control computer 
systems; Ballistic Missile Early Warning System (BMEWS); military 
use of outer space; F-4 aircraft; specialization of Air Force officers; 
AR-15 rifle for Air Force; National Security Industrial Association 
Interviewer: Hugh N. Ahmann 
Date of Interview: 20 May 1982 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 323 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1325 
Location: AFHRA 

. Babers, LTG Donald M. 

Army Army - Tank-Automotive Command 

Subject: Program Management - Army 

Contents: Program Manager, Abrams tank; developmental and testing 
problems; marketing; U.S./German relations; facilitization 
Interview Coverage: 1977-1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: File open to all 
Pages: 24 
Location: USAMC 

. Bacher, Robert 
Defense Industry RAND 
Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Discussion of atomic energy issues; Air Force contracts; 

development of systems analysis at RAND; spin-off of Systems 
Development Corporation (SDC) from RAND; comparison of 
RAND and IDA 

Biography: Physicist; Los Alamos researcher; RAND scientist; CalTech faculty 

Interview Coverage: 1930s-1950s 

Interviewer: Martin Collins and Joseph Tartarewicz 

Date of Interview: 21 July 1987 

Length of Interview: 2 hours 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 45 

Location: NASM 

Bachinski, Anthony J. 

Navy Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 


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Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Evolution of Navy armaments test ranges to meet needs of 
Vietnam-era munitions development; career at NOTS 
Interview Coverage: 1950s-1970s 
Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig, ID 
Date of Interview: 27 February 1987 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: access restricted 
Pages: 45 
Location: NWC 

Baer, LTG Robert J. 

Army Army - Tank-Automotive Command 

Subject: Program Management - Army 

Contents: Program Manager, Abrams tank; MBT-70 and XM803 tank 
projects; relationships with Congress; prototype competition 
Interview Coverage: 1972-1977 
Date of Interview: September 1987 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: File open to all 
Pages: 29 
Location: USAMC 

Bailey, Gary 

Navy Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Recollection of 15 years of military and civilian service as a pilot at 
the Naval Weapons Laboratory; discusses role of test pilots in 
RDT&E programs; describes several accidents involving aircraft 
and drones at NWC 

Biography: Test pilot - Air Test and Evaluation Squadron 

Interviewer: Linda Lou Crosby 

Date of Interview: 12 December 1985 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 41 

Location: NWC,DTRC,NHC 

Bainbridge, Dr. Kenneth T. 

Navy National Defense Research Committee 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of career at NDRC Radiation Laboratory at MIT in 

1940; technical mission of England in 1941; atomic bomb testing 
Interview Coverage: 1940s-1950s 
Interviewer: unknown 
Date of Interview: 1960 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 

Pages: 150 _ 

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Bainbridge, Dr. Kenneth T. 

Navy Army - Manhattan Engineer District/Project 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of role of ADM Parsons in work at Los 
Alamos/Manhattan Project 
Interview Coverage: 1940s 
Interviewer: Albert B. Christman 
Date of Interview: 3 April 1966 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 24 

Location: NWC, DTRC 
Baker, Walter L. 

Navy Applied Research Lab - Penn State 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of career at ARL and Ordnance Research Laboratory 
(ORL) 

Biography: Researcher, Applied Research Laboratory at Pennsylvania State 
University 

Interview Coverage: 1940s 
Interviewer: Richard D. Glasow 
Date of Interview: 18 August 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Location: ARL 

Ballentine, ADM John Jennings 

Navy Naval Proving Grounds 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of Ballantine's experiences in testing and development 
work for the navy; work at Naval Proving Ground (NPG); 
involvement with Norden Bombsight development 
Biography: Staff officer, Naval Proving Grounds 

Interview Coverage: 1940s 

Interviewer: unknown 

Date of Interview: 1964 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 758 

Location: COL, NHC 

Ballinger, Lt. Col. Walter A. 

Air Force Air Force - Aerospace Guidance/Meteorology 

Subject: Procurement - Air Force 

Contents: Problems involved in bringing Aerospace Guidance and 

Meteorology Center (AGMC) Maintenance Management System 


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(MMS), or Mini-Max, to fruition; benefits resulting from AGMC 
MMS; actual-hour cost accounting system; standard-hour 
accounting system 

Interviewer: George W. Bradley, Newark AFS History Office 
Date of Interview: 9 June 1981 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 36 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1281 
Location: AFHRA 

Barlow, Edward 

Defense Industry RAND 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Discussion of early work at Sperry Gyroscope; work on radar 
technology during WWII; 12-year career at RAND Electronics 
Department; contribution to USAF studies; role in Strategic 
Offensive Forces Study preparation; practice of systems analysis 
within RAND; total cost concept; nuclear targeting and MAD 
Biography: Physicist; RAND researcher; RAND liaison to Office of the 
Assistant for Development Planning 

Interview Coverage: 1930s-1950s 

Interviewer: Martin Collins and Joseph Tartarewicz 

Date of Interview: 10 February 1988 

Length of Interview: 7 hours 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 139 

Location: NASM 

Barnaby, CAPT Ralph 

Navy Naval Aviation Development Center 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of inter-war aviation R&D in navy; design and evolution 
of aircraft; aviation work during WWU 
Biography: Commanding Officer, Naval Aviation Development Center 
Interview Coverage: 1940s 
Interviewer: Albert B. Christman 
Date of Interview: April 1978 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 32 
Location: DTRC 

Barnes, Lt. Gen. Earl W. 

Air Force Air Force - Tactical Air Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Weapons Systems Evaluation Group; Tactical Air Command. 
Biography: Weapon System Evaluation Group, 1950; Deputy Commander, 
Tactical Air Command, 1953 


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Interview Coverage: 1945-1957 
Interviewer: Hugh N. Ahmann 
Date of Interview: 22-23 January 1975 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Permission from interviewee required to cite or quote 
Pages: 405 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 828 
Location: AFHRA 

Bastedo, George 

Navy Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of various missile projects at NOL; Bat missile; Dove, 
Petrel, and Sidewinder missile systems; establishment of Naval 
Ordnance Lab; transfer to Naval Weapons Center 
Interview Coverage: 1940s-1960s 
Interviewer: Mickey Strong 
Date of Interview: 16 April 1975 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 13 

Location: NWC, DTRC 

Battell, William F. 

Marine Corps 

Subject: Logistics - Marine Corps 

Contents: Discussion of early USMC service; experiences at Army 

communications center at Fort Monmouth NJ; communications 
duty, Bureau of Ships (1930s); Director of Material Division, 

Supply Department, HQMC, 1956-1958; service as Quartermaster 
General of the Marine Corps, 1963-1965; automation of the 
Marine Corps supply system; reflections on DoD influence in supply 
and logistics issues 

Biography: USMC Service, 1927-1965; Quartermaster General of the Marine 
Corps, 1963-1965 

Interview Coverage: 1930s-1960s 
Interviewer: Major Thomas E. Donnelly 
Date of Interview: 1971 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 306 

Location: Marine Corps Historical Center 

Batzler, RADM Jack 

Navy Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of disestablishment of NAVMAT; establishment of 

SPAWAR; role as head of SPAWAR 30-WSA&E; problems with 
systems integration; C3I integration problems; bureaucracy of navy 


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R&D; comments about preference of Navy leadership for products 
over concepts in R&D 

Biography: First director, SPAWAR 30 (Warfare Systems Architecture and 
Engineering Directorate) 

Interview Coverage: 1960s-1970s 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 8 March 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 31 
Location: DTRC 

Baughn, Brig. Gen. Richard M. 

Air Force Air Force - Strategic Air Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: F-105 program; Strategic Air Command 

Biography: Project Officer, F-105 program; Commander, 20th Tactical Fighter 
Wing; Commander, 45th Air Division, Strategic Air Command; 
Deputy Defense Attach^, Saigon, Republic of Vietnam, June 1974 - 
March 1975 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1975 
Interviewer: Hugh N. Ahmann 
Date of Interview: 20-21 March 1975 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 262 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1119 
Location: AFHRA 

Beach, CAPT Edward Latimer 
Navy 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Recollections of WWII submarine service; development of atomic 
submarines 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1950s 

Interviewer: unknown 

Date of Interview: 1967 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 470 

Location: COL, NHC 

Beach, Dr. Eugene H. 

Navy Naval Ordnance Lab - White Oak 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of history of Mk48 torpedo; involvement with torpedo 
R&D at Naval Ordnance Laboratory (NOL); discussion of torpedo 
"shoot-out" between Westinghouse and Clevite; transfer of Mk48 
program from NOL to Naval Underwater Systems Center 
Interview Coverage: 1960s-1970s _ 

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Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 18 July 1989 
Length of Interview: 2 tapes 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Location: DTRC 

Beach, Dr. Eugene H. 

Navy Naval Ordnance Lab - White Oak 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Comments on move of NOL to Navy Yard in 19401 mission of 
NSWC; consolidation of NOL and Naval Weapons Lab into 
NSWC in 1974 

Biography: Staff, Naval Ordnance Laboratory; Staff, Naval Surface Warfare 
Center 

Interview Coverage: 1950s-1970s 
Interviewer: Albert B. Christman 
Date of Interview: 31 March 1978 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 17 
Location: DTRC 

Beatty, MG George 

Army Army - Aviation and Missile Command 

Subject: Aviation - Army 

Contents: Howze Board (Tactical Mobility Requirements Board of 1961); 

army aviation organization, doctrine, technology 
Interviewer: Dr. Burton Wright III 
Date of Interview: 1991 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open; filed alpha in file cabinet, 870-5.4000 series 
Pages: 11 
Location: AABHO 

Beauchamp, MG Roy E. 

Army Army - Materiel Command 

Subject: Acquisition - Army 

Biography: DCS Research, Development, & Acquisition 
Date of Interview: 20 June 1997 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: review not complete; file availability to be determined 
Location: USAMC 

Beckmann, Robert F. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Biography: Procurement contracting officer; head of small business office at Warner 
Robins Air Logistics Center (WR-ALC), Warner Robins AFB, 


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1969; served as liaison between U.S. Air Force and industry; Chief 
of Office of Small and Disadvantaged Business Utilization, 
WR-ALC 

Interviewer: Dr. William Head, Warner Robins Air Logistics Center History 
Date of Interview: 26 June 1985, 19 February 1986 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 62 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1715 
Location: AFHRA 

Beilis, LTG Benjamin N. 

Air Force 

Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: B-36 aircraft and its problems; Wright-Patterson AFB, OH; 

Matador missile program; Western Development Division; Industrial 
College of the Armed Forces; SR-71 aircraft program; F-15 
aircraft program 

Biography: Commander, Electronic Systems Division; Commander, 17th Air 
Force; Vice Commander in Chief, U.S. Air Forces in Europe 
Interviewer: LTC David C. Ladd, USAF, Air War College, for USAF Oral 
Date of Interview: 10-11 January 1985 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 232 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1629 
Location: AFHRA 

Belzer, Robert 

Defense Industry RAND 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Participation in radar-absorbent material research (stealth 

technology); USAF studies on long-range bombers; work of 
Technology and Capabilities Panel of the President's Science 
Advisory Committee 

Biography: RAND mathematician 

Interview Coverage: 1930s-1950s 

Interviewer: Martin Collins and Joseph Tartarewicz 

Date of Interview: 23 July 1987 

Length of Interview: 3.25 hours 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 47 

Location: NASM 

Bender, CAPT James 
Navy 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of Mk48 torpedo program; fixed-cost contract; 

Advanced Capability (ADCAP) torpedo; torpedo test and 
evaluation 


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Biography: Program project officer, OPNAV 
Interview Coverage: 1970s 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 1 August 1989 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 24 
Location: DTRC 

Berenson, Dr. Paul J. 

OSD 

Subject: Defense Acquisition; Policy 

Contents: Discussion of Defense Acquisition Improvement Program; Secretary of Defense 
Frank Carlucci; Carlucci initiatives; ASD Vincent Puritano; Richard DeLauer; 
including industry in acquisition reform; TQM; reducing regulation; 
requirements and low-bidding; Defense Acquisition Executive (DAE): R&D in 
the services; streamlining the acquisition process; Soviet acquisition; changes to 
DoD 5000.1; Goldwater-Nichols; off-the-shelf procurements versus 
development in the services; DARPA and the internet; R&D spending in 
relation to procurement spending; computer technology; bureaucratic process; 
work conditions in OSD: James Wade; Eugene Fubini; TRADOC and 
acquisition; interoperability and communications; Edward Teller; 

Biography: DASD (Requirements), 1977; Chairman, DAIP Working Group; scientific 
adviser to SACEUR 

Interview Coverage: 1980s 

Interviewer: Andrew J. Butrica 

Date of Interview: 22 August 2002 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper/Electronic 

Access Information: Pending 

Pages: 55 

Location: DAHP 

Bergstralh, Thor 

Navy Naval Research Laboratory 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Early career at MIT and Bowdin; recruitment by NRL after WWH; 
upper-atmosphere research; work on V-2, Viking, and Aerobee 
projects; rocket impact point prediction system; NRL nuclear 
reactor; work at Ford Aeronautics 

Biography: NRL researcher 

Interview Coverage: 1940-s 1960s 
Interviewer: Dr. David DeVorkin 
Date of Interview: 1 August 1983 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 70 
Location: NASM 


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Berman, Dr. Alan 

Navy Naval Research Laboratory 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Interview about dis-establishment of NAVMAT, establishment of 
SPAWAR; differences between SPAWAR and old Naval 
Electronics Systems Command; discussion of transfer of hardware 
programs into and out of SPAWAR; transfer of R&D centers from 
Secretariat to operational Navy (Systems Command, SPAWAR); 
inadequate funding of WSA&E (warfare systems architecture and 
engineering) research 

Biography: Director of Research, NRL 

Interview Coverage: 1950s-1980s 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 1 March 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 23 
Location: DTRC 

Berman, Dr. Alan 

Navy Naval Research Laboratory 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Career with NRL; perspective on Navy R&D policy-making; R&D 
management initiatives at Hudson Laboratories and NRL; Navy 
research requirements from 1952-1982 
Biography: Director of Research, NRL 

Interview Coverage: 1950s-1980s 

Interviewer: Dr. John S. Pitts and Dr. David K. Allison 

Date of Interview: 3 June 1982; 10 June 1982; 19 June 1982 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 140 

Location: DTRC, NRL 

Berman, Dr. Alan 

Navy Naval Research Laboratory 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Career with NRL; Navy lab re-organization; civil-military relations 
between researchers and military; evaluation of Civil Service 
Commission's policies on R&D; management philosophy; 
comparison of U.S. and Soviet R&D programs; description of 
ARPA; suggested changes to Navy's R&D program 
Biography: Director of Research, NRL 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1970s 
Interviewer: Dr. Vincent Ponko, Jr. 

Date of Interview: 22 September 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 30 


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Location: DTRC 


Beshany, VADM Philip A. 

Navy 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of transition from diesel to nuclear submarines in 1960s; 
establishment of bases for nuclear sub fleet; work as Director of 
Submarine Warfare during development phase of Los Angeles-class 
attack sub; role as first Deputy Chief of Naval Operations 
(Submarine Warfare) 

Biography: Submariner; Director of Submarine Warfare; Deputy Chief of Naval 
Operations 

Interview Coverage: 1960s 

Interviewer: Paul Stillwell 

Date of Interview: December 1977; January 1979 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 505 

Location: USNI, USNA, NWCM 

Besson, GEN Frank S., Jr. 

Army Army - Materiel Command 

Subject: Program Management - Army 

Contents: Compilation of extracts from speeches and from U.S. Army Military 
History Institute (USAMHI) and Command Element (CE) 
interviews 
Interviewer: Leventhal 
Date of Interview: Various 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Completed (access to be determined) 

Location: USAMC 

Bethel, Ion Maywood 
Marine Corps 

Subject: Procurement - Marine Corps 

Contents: Reflections on service with Marine Corps; work in textile 

engineering before World War D; procurement and supply duties, 
service as Office in Charge at MCSD, Philadelphia, 1945-1950, 
and HQMC, 1950-1952; service as Quartermaster General of the 
Marine Corps, 1957-1958; discussion of Marine Corps supply and 
procurement procedures 

Biography: USMC Service, 1918-1958; Quartermaster General of the Marine 
Corps, 1957-1958 

Interview Coverage: 1920s-1950s 
Interviewer: Mr. Benis M. Frank 
Date of Interview: 1968 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 115 


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Location: USMC Historical Center 

Bishop, CAPT Charles 

Navy Naval Undersea Warfare Center 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of navy lab administration; remarks about shift of 
laboratories from R&D, exploratory development, and applied 
research to program management, systems engineering, and contract 
management; effects of centralization under McNamara 
Interview Coverage: 1960s-1970s 
Interviewer:!) r. Mark Jacobsen 
Date of Interview: October 1987 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 33 
Location: NOSC 

Black, COL Clinton M. 

Army Army - Signal Command 

Subject: Program Management - Army 

Biography: Program Manager, Vertical Installation Automated Baseline, August 
1981 - June 1985 

Interview Coverage: 1981-1985 
Date of Interview: 22 February 1988 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Location: USASC-FG 

Blake, Lt. Gen. Gordon A. 

Air Force Air Force - Continental Air Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Postwar research and development; creation of Air Research and 
Development Command; accomplishments of Wright Field 
Laboratories; construction of Distant Early Warning line; Permanent 
Joint Board of Defense; Continental Air Command 

Biography: Member, Permanent Joint Board of Defense; Commander, 
Continental Air Command 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1967 

Interviewer: Arthur K. Marmor, Office of Air Force History 
Date of Interview: 14 April 1967 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: For official use only. 

Pages: 60 

Finding Aids: AFHRA621 
Location: AFHRA 

Blasingame, Paul 

Air Force RAND 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Career information; work with AAF; Work with RAND on 


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Development Planning Objective; work on the Titan program; 
ballistic missile guidance research and development 
Biography: RAND engineer 

Interview Coverage: 1930s-1960s 
Interviewer: Martin Collins 
Date of Interview: 14 November 1990 
Length of Interview: 2 hours 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 24 
Location: NASM 

Blesse, Maj. Gen. F.C. 

Air Force Air Force - Inspector General 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Brig. Gen. Robin Olds; Col. Daniel E. Farr; taking gun out of 
fighter; television sighting unit; compatibility between research, 
development and operations; Aim Val/Ace Val 
Biography: Deputy Inspector General, U.S. Air Force, HQ USAF, 

Washington DC 

Interviewer:\A. Col. Gordon F. Nelson, USAF 
Date of Interview: 14 February 1977 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Pending 
Pages: 116 

Publisher: Corona Ace Collection 
Finding Aids: AFHRA 1077 
Location: AFHRA 

Blood, Dr. Howard 

Navy Naval Ocean Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of lab merger that created the Naval Ocean Systems 
Center (NOSC); describes purpose of NOSC and products 
Interviewer: Albert B. Christman 
Date of Interview: 10 March 1978 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 16 
Location: DTRC 

Blouin, Robert 
Navy 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of Mk48 torpedo program; review of 'Lessons Learned 
in the Mk48 Program' - including 5 fundamental shortcomings of 
'fixed price contracting'; discussion of interviewee's opinion on 
successful R&D program and contract management; research team 
assessments 


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Interview Coverage: 1950s-1960s 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 1 August 1989 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 24 
Location: DTRC 

Bodenburg, John 

Navy Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of navy lab administration; dangers of bureaucratization 
at R&D centers; remarks about the decline of innovative research at 
navy labs; changing nature of naval warfare and political aspects of 
weapons development; problems with SES civil service system; 
NWC’s relations with Washington 
Biography: researcher, NWC 

Interview Coverage: 1950s-1970s 
Interviewer: Elizabeth Babcock 
Date of Interview: 30 December 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 67 

Location: NWC, DTRC, NHC 

Bodensteiner, RADM Wayne 

Navy Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Description of NAVMAT's Anti-submarine Warfare (ASW) 
Systems Program Office, PM-4; discussion of planned 
re-organization of the Office of the Deputy Chief of Naval Material 
for Acquisitions, MAT-08; speculation about ADM White's 
retirement as Chief of Naval Material; rationale behind placing 
warfare systems architecture and engineering function in SPA WAR 
Interview Coverage: 1960s-1970s 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 12 March 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 14 
Location: DTRC 

Bolt, Dr. Richard Henry 

Navy Office of Scientific Research and Development 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Description of background and education; work with OSRD; 

acoustic research 
Interview Coverage: 1940s 
Interviewer: Richard D. Glasow 
Date of Interview: 21 August 1980 


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Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Location: NUM 

Bowen, Dr. Ira S. 

Navy Naval Ordnance Test Station 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Early rocket program at CalTech/NOTS; recollection of accidents 
at Eaton Canyon and Kellogg; rocket tests at Goldstone Lake 
Interview Coverage: 1950s-1960s 
Interviewer: Albert B. Christman 
Date of Interview: 5 October 1970 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 33 

Location: NWC, DTRC, NHC 

Bowen, Gilbert 

Navy Navy Ordnance Laboratory 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Creation of Vietnam Laboratory Assistance Program (VLAP); 

operations of VLAP; VLAP management and administration; 

VLAP projects in support of SEAL teams, Marines, and 
VLAP-Army program; creation of Navy Science Assistance 
Program to replace VLAP in peacetime 
Interview Coverage: 1960s-1970s 
Interviewer: Glenn E. Bugos 
Date of Interview: 17 July 1985 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 26 
Location: DTRC 

Bowen, James 

Navy Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Program descriptions and recollections; continuous-rod warhead; 

the BOAR rocket; Project Hindsight; satellite programs; hovering 
rocket systems; Aerial Training Program; training of new program 
managers; significance of Naval Ocean Testing Center's underwater 
projects 

Biography: researcher, NWC 

Interview Coverage: 1960s- 1980s 
Interviewer: Elizabeth Babcock 
Date of Interview: 2 December 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 71 

Location: NWC, DTRC 


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Bowles, Edward L. 

Air Force RAND 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Career information; military-industrial relations discussion; work 

with Arnold, others in USAF; establishment of USAF Deputy Chief 
of Air Staff for R&D 

Biography: RAND engineer; Special Assistant to Secretary Stimson 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1960s 
Interviewer: Martin Collins and Michael Dennis 
Date of Interview: 20 August 1987 
Length of Interview: 11 hours 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 129 
Location: NASM 

Bowsher, Charles 
Navy, Government 

Subject: Defense Acquisition Policy, Budget Process 

Contents: Fixed-price incentive contracting; TPP; pricing and costing in the 1960s;the role 
of industry in procurement and acquisition 
practice, policy and reform; Robert Charles; David 
Packard; acquisition management in the Navy; Mark-48 
torpedo program; Admiral Hyman G. Rickover; relations 
between Rickover and CNOs, especially Admiral Elmo 
"Bud" Zumwalt and Admiral Thomas H. Moorer, as 
concerns Navy R&D; McNamara's efforts to privatize 
naval shipbuilding; American shipbuilding industry 
versus European and Japanese shipbuilding; 
modernization; B-l bomber; Naval Industrial Fund; 
standardization 

Biography: Asst. Secretary of the Navy (Financial Management), 1967-71; Comptroller 
General, 1981-1996 

Interview Coverage: 1970s-1990s 

Interviewer: Dr. Walter S. Poole 

Date of Interview: 3 May 2004 

Length of Interview: Two hours 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper/Electronic 

Access Information: Pending 

Location: DAHP 

Boyd, Col. John R. 

Air Force Air Force - Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Contents: Air Force Institute of Technology; energy maneuverability; 

Advanced Research Projects Agency 
Biography: Program Monitor, Air Force Systems Command 
Interview Coverage: 


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Interviewer: Lt. Col. John N. Dick, Jr., USAF 
Date of Interview: 28 January 1977 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Pending 
Pages: 250 

Publisher: Corona Ace Collection 
Finding Aids: AFHRA 1066 
Location: AFHRA 

Boyd, Col. John R. 

Air Force Air Force - Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Energy maneuverability (EM) theory; in-house opposition to EM 
theory; support from Gen. Howell Estes; selling EM theory to Air 
Force Systems Command and Tactical Air Command; use of 
energy maneuverability to predict performance requirements; 
assignment to Pentagon to work on F-X fighter aircraft; 
inadequacies of first F-X design submitted by contractors; redesign 
to lighten aircraft and increase performance; fixed-sweep versus 
variable-sweep for F-X wing; selection of McDonnell Douglas to 
build F-15; assignment to Air Force Systems Command as program 
monitor; F-X versus A-X; single-purpose versus multi-purpose aircraft; 
maximum maneuver concept 

Biography: Program Monitor, Air Force Systems Command 

Interview Coverage: 1960-1972 

Interviewer: Jacob Neufeld, Office of Air Force History 

Date of Interview: 23 May 1974 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Permission from interviewee required for access to 
Pages: 33 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 859 
Location: AFHRA 

Boyd, Gen. Albert 

Air Force Air Force - Air Research and Development 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: Testing of new Air Force jets and rocket planes. 

Biography: Deputy Commander for Systems, Air Research and Development 
Command 

Interviewer: Kenneth Leish, Columbia University 
Date of Interview: June 1960 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Permission to cite or quote required from Columbia 
Pages: 53 

Publisher: Columbia University Aviation Project 
Finding Aids: AFHRA 146.34-12 
Location: AFHRA 


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Boyle, John 

Navy Naval Ordnance Test Station 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of “distinguished failures” at NOTS, including SWAB 
(shallow-water attack boat), Raywinder missile, Loudmouth 
public-address system for use in Vietnam; work at NSWC between 
1973-1983; remarks about management style at China Lake 
Aviation Ordnance Department 

Biography: Researcher, NOTS; Researcher, Naval Surface Warfare Center 

Interview Coverage: 1950s-1970s 
Interviewer: Elizabeth Babcock 
Date of Interview: 31 August 1989 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 98 
Location: NWC 

Bradley, Gen. Mark E., Jr. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Office of Director of Procurement and Industrial Planning, Air 
Materiel Command; Air Force Logistics Command 
Biography: Deputy Commander, First Tactical Air Force Service Command; 

Deputy Chief of Staff, Fifth Air Force; Commander, 301st Fighter 
Wing; Office of Director of Procurement and Industrial Planning; Air 
Materiel Command; Assistant Chief of Staff for Materiel, HQ 
USAF, Washington DC; Deputy Chief of Staff for Systems and 
Logistics; Commander, Air Force Logistics Command 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1965 
Interviewer: Sc ottie S. Thompson 
Date of Interview: 5-8 February 1979 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 210 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1114 
Location: AFHRA 

Bradley, Gen. Mark E., Jr. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Demobilization problems; lessons learned from World War II; 

industrial planning and mobilization during Korean War; production 
problems; NATO buildup; relationship between Air Force Logistics 
Command (AFLC) and Systems Command; competition in 
procurement; transition to mixed missile/aircraft force; Logistics 
Command support of operations in Vietnam; effect of Defense 
Supply Agency on AFLC support; AFLC responsibility for 
non-operational aircraft and missiles and Military Assistance 
Program deliveries; effectiveness of Project MONEY TREE 
Biography: Commander, Air Force Logistics Command 


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Interview Coverage: 1945-1965 

Interviewer: Arthur K. Marmor, Office of Air Force History 
Date of Interview: 13 July 1965 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: For official use only. 

Pages: 33 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 570 
Location: AFHRA 

Braught, Jack H. 

Air Force Air Force - Warner Robins AMA, GA 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Warner Robins Air Materiel Area; budget; materiel management; 
airborne radar; electronic warfare 

Biography: Chief, Manpower Organization, Comptroller's Office, Warner 

Robins Air Materiel Area (WRAMA), GA; Chief, Budget Division, 
WRAMA; Chief of Plans and Programs, Materiel Management 
Directorate, WRAMA; Technical Associate, Management Services 
Division, Materiel Management Directorate, WRAMA; Deputy 
Chief, Airborne Radar and Electronic Warfare Item Management 
Division, WRAMA; retired 1975 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1975 
Interviewer: Dr. Richard W. Iobst 
Date of Interview: 15, 18 August 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 131 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1231 
Location: AFHRA 

Breeze, Col. William C. 

Air Force Air Force - Task Force Alpha 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Nakhon Phanom Royal Thai Air Base; Task Force Alpha (TFA); 

research and development problems; automatic data processing 
problems 

Biography: Chief, Technical Intelligence Division, Task Force Alpha 

Interview Coverage: 1967-1968 
Interviewer: C apt. Ralph I. Stearns, USAF 
Date of Interview: 15 January 1970 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: For official use only. 

Pages: 23 

Publisher: Corona Harvest 
Finding Aids: AFHRA 337 
Location: AFHRA 


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Bridgeman, William 
Air Force 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: Testing of Skyrocket and other post-World War D planes 
Interviewer: Kenneth Leish, Columbia University Aviation Project 
Date of Interview: May 1960 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Permission to cite or quote required from Columbia 
Pages: 45 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 146.34-16 
Location: AFHRA 

Brock, Col. John W. 

Air Force Air Force - 3d Air Division 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Materiel, logistics and maintenance support of ARC LIGHT 
operations; organization of maintenance management 
responsibilities; buildup of munitions storage and loading facilities; 
deployment to Thailand 

Biography: Deputy Chief of Staff, Materiel, 3d Air Division, Guam; 

Commander, U Tapao Royal Thai Air Force Base Commander 

Interview Coverage: 1965-1966 
Interviewer: Kenneth L. Patchin 
Date of Interview: 20 December 1968 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 21 

Publisher: Corona Harvest 
Finding Aids: AFHRA 170 
Location: AFHRA 

Brode, Wallace 

Subject: Research and Development 

Biography: Member of President's Committee on Scientists and Engineers, 
1957; Science Advisor to the Secretary of State, 1958-1960; 
Consultant to President's Science Advisory Committee, 1958-1960 
Interview Coverage: 1957-1960 
Date of Interview: 1972 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 51 

Finding Aids: OH 281 
Location: Eisenhower Library 

Brooks, Dr. Harvey 

Navy National Defense Research Committee 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of career and work at Harvard Underwater Sound 
Laboratory 

Interview Coverage: 1940s 


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Interviewer: Richard D. Glasow 
Date of Interview: 20 August 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Location: NUM 

Brooks, James L. 

Air Force North American Aircraft Corporation 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Biography: Test Pilot, North American Aircraft Corporation 

Interviewer:\l. Col. John N. Dick, Jr., USAF 

Date of Interview: 4 February 1977 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Pages: 132 

Publisher: Corona Ace Collection 
Finding Aids: AFHRA 1073 
Location: AFHRA 

Brooks, James L. 

Air Force 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Missile development; guns; simulators; F-5 sales 

Interviewer: Lt. Col. John N. Dick, Jr., USAF 

Date of Interview: 3 February 1977 

Length of Interview: 1:30 hours 

Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 

Access Information: Pending 

Publisher: Corona Ace Collection 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1072 

Location: AFHRA 

Brown, Dr. Harold 
OSD 

Subject: Acquisition - OSD 

Biography: Secretary of Defense, 1977-1981; Secretary of the Air Force 1965-1969; 
DDR&E 1961-1965 

Contents: Concurrency versus prototyping (fly-before-buy); F-111; innovation; Zero CEP; 
Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara; systems analysis methodology; 
ROLLING THUNDER and ECM; R&D during the Vietnam War; 
reorganization of acquisition function in OSD in 1977; William Perry; Defense 
Resources Board (DRB); technology and innovation; B-l; the “revolving door” 
problem; R&D in the services; Program Analysis; costing and politics 

Interview Coverage: 1960s-1970s 
Interviewer: Walter S. Poole; Walton S. Moody 
Date of Interview: 28 January 2004 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Pending 
Pages: 23 
Location: DAHP 


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Buchholz, MG Douglas 

Army Army - Signal Command 

Subject: Program Management - Army 

Contents: Exit interview; also exists on audio and video cassette 

Biography: Chief of Signal 

Interviewer: Carol E. Stokes 

Date of Interview: 4 September 1996 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Location: USASC-FG 

Bunyard, LTG Jerry Max 

Army Army - Materiel Command 

Subject: Acquisition - Army 

Biography: DCG Research, Development, & Acquisition 
Date of Interview: 14 September 1989 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Published; open; retained by AMC 
Location: US AMC 

Burbules, LTG Peter G. 

Army Army - Materiel Command 

Subject: Acquisition - Army 

Contents: Force modernization; readiness; ammunition integrated logistics 
support; streamlined acquisition process 
Interviewer: Darius Coppola 
Date of Interview: 28 October 1987 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: File open to all 
Pages: 19 
Location: USAMC 

Burchinal, Gen. David A. 

Air Force Air Force - Strategic Air Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Establishment of Aircraft Control and Warning System in Alaska; 
B-47 training;' flying characteristics of B-47; experiences as 
Strategic Air Command commander; effects of 1958 Defense 
Reorganization Act; problems in implementation of Joint Strategic 
Plans Committee; Project FORECAST, cooperative effort of 
science, industry and military to predict future of weapons and 
technology; conflicts with Secretary of Defense Robert S. 
McNamara; explanation of dual-basing concept 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1975 

Interviewer: COL John B. Schmidt, USA, and LTC Jack Straser, U.S. Army 
Date of Interview: 11 April 1975 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 201 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 837 
Location: AFHRA 


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Burke, ADM Arleigh A. 

Navy Office of the Chief of Naval Operations 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of the development and deployment of the Polaris 
weapon system 

Biography: Chief of Naval Operations, 1955-1961 

Interview Coverage: 1960s 

Interviewer: unknown 

Date of Interview: September 1972 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 36 

Location: NHC, NWCM, USNA, USNI 

Burke, ADM Arleigh A. 

Navy Office of the Chief of Naval Operations 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Biography: Chief of Naval Operations, 1955-1961 

Interview Coverage: 1955-1961 
Date of Interview: 1972-1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 249 
Finding Aids: OH 284 
Location: Eisenhower Library 

Burkhart, Col. M.C. 

Air Force Air Force - Aerospace Research Laboratories 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: RB-47; Aerospace Research Laboratories; changeover of 2802d 
Inertial Guidance and Calibration Group to Aerospace Guidance 
and Meteorology Center in November 1968 
Biography: Active duty, 1948-1973; SAC pilot; service with Aerospace 
Research Laboratories, Wright-Patterson AFB, OH 
Interviewer: George W. Bradley, Aerospace Guidance and Meteorology 
Date of Interview: unknown 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 27 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1301 
Location: AFHRA 


Burns, Dr. Robert O. 

Navy 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of post-war naval R&D; lab management; planning of 
weapon systems acquisition from 1946-1968; use of project 
guidance methodologies; conflicts between labs, OPNAV, ONR, 


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and other organizations; impact of DoN and OSD review councils 
on navy R&D 

Biography: Development Director, Office of Naval Research; Chief Scientist, 
Office of the Chief of Naval Operations (OP-98T) 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1970s 
Interviewer: Booz, Allen & Hamilton 
Date of Interview: 11 October 1974 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Access Information: Open 
Location: DTRC 

Burns, Maj. Gen. John F. 

Air Force Air Force - Edwards AFB, CA 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: F-4 aircraft; F-5 aircraft; participation in project which evaluated 
current and projected air combat capability for tactical forces; use 
of energy maneuverability concept to compare and estimate combat 
maneuvering performance; study group's conclusion that new 
tactical fighter was required that emphasized air combat; advocacy 
of air superiority aircraft that was smaller, lighter and more 
maneuverable than F-l 11 and F-4; fighter referred to as F-X (now 
F-15); promotion effort for F-X; F-l5 aircraft evolution and 
capabilities; disagreement with Project FORECAST study on 
limited war that predicted that F-l 11 would be optimized for air 
superiority role and meet Air Force's requirements through early 
1970s; classification of popular idea of relying on air-to-air missiles 
for conduct of air combat as "big mistake;" staff study called "Force 
Options for Tactical Air" determined that mixing 
lower-performance, lower-cost aircraft (A-7) with 
higher-performance, higher-cost aircraft would result in more cost 
effective force 

Biography: F-4/F-5 test detachment commander, Edwards AFB, CA; Project 
FORECAST team member 

Interview Coverage: 1963-1970 

Interviewer: Jacob Neufeld, Office of Air Force History 

Date of Interview: 22 March 1973 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Pages: 38 

Finding Aids: AFHRA961 
Location: AFHRA 

Burroughs, RADM Sherman E. 

Navy 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: RADM Burroughs reminisces on major 'non-conformist' figures in 
the history of NOTS/NWC 
Interview Coverage: 1940s-1960s 
Date of Interview: 9 November 1968 


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Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 

Title: "Twenty-fifth Anniversary Dinner (NOTS/NWC) Speeches" 

Pages: 25 

Location: NWC, DTRC, NHC 

Busey, ADM Janies 

Navy Office of the Chief of Naval Operations 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of NAVELEX; establishment of SPAWAR; 

SPAWAR's role in ASW research; evaluation of SPAWAR 
activities 

Biography: Vice Chief of Naval Operations 

Interview Coverage: 1950s-1980s 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 20 April 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 38 
Location: DTRC 

Bush, Col. William H. 

Air Force Air Force - Aerospace Guidance/Meteorology 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Activities at Aerospace Guidance and Meteorology Center 

(AGMC); work on Mini Max, AGMC maintenance management 
system; consolidation of all calibration programs in Department of 
Defense 

Biography: Commissioned in USAF Officer Candidate School, 1951; 

Minuteman missile crew commander, 1966; Commander, 44th 
Strategic Missile Wing, 1973-1975 

Interviewer:George W. Bradley, Aerospace Guidance and Meteorology 
Date of Interview: 14 August 1981 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 14 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1323 
Location: AFHRA 

Bush, Vannevar 

OSD National Defense Research Committee 

Subject: Acquisition 

Contents: Discussion of work on “10th Fleet” with ADM King; need for funding 
and independence by the national scientific establishment; A-bomb 
development by army-navy; NDRC; interference in military R&D 
by Joint Chiefs of Staff 
Interview Coverage: 1940s-1950s 
Interviewer: Albert B. Christman 
Date of Interview: 26 January 1971 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 


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Access Information: Open 
Pages: 8 
Location: DTRC 

Bushong, Col. Eugene M. 

Air Force Air Force - Aerospace Guidance/Meteorology 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Expansion of maintenance workloads; upgrade of meteorology 
program; improvements in physical condition of Aerospace 
Guidance and Meteorology Center (AGMC); establishment of new 
management systems directorate; parts price controversy at 
AGMC; views on future of AGMC 

Biography: Vice Commander, Aerospace Guidance and Meteorology Center, 
1983-1985 

Interviewer: Call B. Beamer, Aerospace Guidance and Meteorology Center 
Date of Interview: 21 March 1985 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 37 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1750 
Location: AFHRA 

Byrnes, CAPT James 

Navy Naval Ordnance Test Station 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Plans for permanent post-war naval research establishment; 

development of NOTS as a response to strengthening the shore 
establishment to support a two-ocean navy; names of people 
involved with early NOTS 
Interview Coverage: 1940s-1950s 
Interviewer: Albert B. Christman 
Date of Interview: May 1967 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 31 
Location: DTRC 

Campbell, James 

Navy Naval Ordnance Test Station 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of underwater acoustics research at Pasadena annex of 
NOTS; porpoise and bat research at Naval Undersea Research and 
Development Center (later Naval Ocean Systems Center) 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1950s 
Interviewer: Elizabeth Babcock 
Date of Interview: 25 January 1985 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 35 

Location: NWC, DTRC, NHC 


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Campbell, John H. 

Navy Naval Research Laboratory 

Subject: Atomic Energy 

Contents: Participation of Naval Research Laboratory (NRL) employees with 
above-ground nuclear testing; GREENHOUSE and IVY tests 
Biography: Group interview: Joseph A. Curcio, Steven Gorbics, Donald F. 

Hansen, Dr. Ernest H. Krause, Charles Petty, Dr. John Sanderson, 
Marion Shuler, Harold Stewart 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1950 
Interviewer: Louis F. Drummeter, Jr. 

Date of Interview: 1984 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Access Information: Open 
Location: NRL 

Campbell, Lt. Gen. William J. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Staff 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: F-86 combat training, Nellis AFB, NV; 36th Fighter-Day Wing, 
Bittburg AB, FRG; F-86 aircraft; F-100 aircraft; B-47 training; 
301st Bombardment Wing 

Biography: Commandant, USAF Aerospace Research Pilot School, January 
1971; Commander, 6th Strategic Wing; Deputy Chief of Staff for 
Plans, HQ USAF, Washington DC; Director, Programs, Office of 
the Deputy Chief of Staff, Programs and Evaluation, HQ USAF, 
Washington DC 

Interviewer: Lt. Col. Paul Gill, USAF, Air War College student, for USAF Oral 

Date of Interview: 16-19 November 1985 

Length of Interview: 7:30 hours 

Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 

Access Information: Pending 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1689 

Location: AFHRA 

Carlton, Gen. P.K. 

Air Force Air Force - Strategic Air Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Primary strengths and weaknesses of B-58 aircraft; research, 

development and procurement of B-58; entry of B-58 into Strategic 
Air Command (SAC) inventory; B-58 compared to other SAC 
bombers; B-58 operations; FB-111 aircraft 
Interview Coverage: 1950-1968 
Interviewer: C argill Hall 
Date of Interview: 23 September 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 24 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1277 
Location: AFHRA 


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Carnell, Col. Ben H. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Assistance to South Vietnamese Air Force (VNAF) in development 
of single depot for logistical support; establishment of facilities; 
training of personnel; development of self-sufficiency; general 
background of VNAF Improvement and Modernization Program; 
Enhance Plus Program; role of U.S. personnel and assistance to 
VNAF since ceasefire; assessment of VNAF's ability to perform its 
mission; major problems facing VNAF logistics system 
Biography: Director, Air Logistics Command 

Interview Coverage: 1972-1973 
Date of Interview: 23 November 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 16 

Publisher: Project CHECO (Contemporary Historical Examination of Current 
Operations) 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 872 
Location: AFHRA 

Carome, Dr. Edward F. 

Navy Naval Research Laboratory 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Role of Naval Research Laboratory (NRL) in fiber-optic 

technology development; work on Fiber Optics Sensor System 
(FOSS) tri-service project; hydrophone patents 
Biography: Researcher, NRL 
Interviewer: Dr. David K. Allison 
Date of Interview: 5 August 1980 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Access Information: Open 
Location: NRL 

Carpenter, Lt. Gen. John W. Ill 

Air Force Air Force - Air Staff 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Biography: Test Pilot, Bombardment Training Division, Washington DC; 

Commander, 5th Reconnaissance Group; Vice Commander, Arnold 
Engineering Development Center, HQ Air Research and 
Development Command; Commander, Air Force Flight Test 
Center; Deputy Director/Director of Plans, HQ USAF, 

Washington DC; Assistant Chief of Staff for Plans and Operations 
(JCS matters), HQ USAF; Commander, Air University; Assistant 
Vice Chief of Staff, HQ USAF; retired 1970 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1970 

Interviewer:Lx. Col. Arthur W. McCants, Jr., USAF, and Maj. Scottie S. 

Date of Interview: 9-12 January 1979 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 300 


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Location: AFHRA 


Carter, Anne (Nancy) 

Navy Naval Ordnance Test Station 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of NOTS Sidewinder missile program; comments about 
management and structure of old Aviation Ordnance Department at 
NOTS; 1983 supplement includes a restatement of the Sidewinder 
program history 

Interview Coverage: 1950s-1960s 

Interviewer: Elizabeth Anderson and Margaret Paralee Barnes 

Date of Interview: 1 May 1975, 8 November 1983 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: access limited 

Pages: 74 

Location: NWC 

Carter, Wade D. 

Air Force Air Force - Warner Robins Air Logistics Center, 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Discusses time compliance technical order (TCTO) incorporated 
into F-15 program by Warner Robins Air Logistics Center; 
approximately 30 TCTOs performed on almost every one of plane's 
systems; 8,000-hour aircraft life; X-ray operations on F-15 to 
detect flaws and metal fatigue; F-100 engine; use of J79 engine in 
F-16; force readiness of F-15 fleet 

Interviewer. -Dr. Richard W. Iobst, Warner Robins Air Logistics Center History 
Date of Interview: 20 February 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 16 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1250 
Location: AFHRA 

Carter, et al, Wade D. 

Air Force Air Force - Warner Robins Air Logistics Center, 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Series of oral history interviews concerning logistical management 
and support for F-15 aircraft in FY 1979; interviews with military 
and civilian personnel closely connected with management of F-15 
program; candid appraisals of logistical support for F-15; F-15 
operational life; number in inventory; number of F-15s delivered to 
Saudi Arabia and Israel; kit-supportable modifications; problems 
with F-100 engine; organic support capability; handling foreign 
military sales; Red Flag exercises; time compliance technical orders; 
depot support; F-15 activations during FY 1979; war readiness 
spares kits; weapons training detachment 
Interview Coverage: 1979 

Interviewer:Dx. Richard W. Iobst, Warner Robins Air Logistics Center History 
Date of Interview: February 1980; March 1980 


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Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 271 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1217 
Location: AFHRA 

Casey, Lt. Gen. Maurice F. 

Air Force Joint Chiefs of Staff 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: NATO logistics; logistics as national responsibility; rationalization, 
standardization and interoperability as new fields for logisticians; 
military airlift; 60th Military Airlift Wing; isochronal maintenance; 
problems with airline strike and labor unions; response to Pueblo 
incident; airlift consolidation; awareness of transportation; 
transportation funding and significance; Middle East crisis; 
assignment to Israel concerning equipment; interview contains 
selected bibliography of Casey's articles and speeches published 
while on active duty concerning air transport, handling and 
packaging, transportation and military-civilian airlift 
Biography: Director of Transportation, HQ USAF, Washington DC; Director 
of Logistics, Organization of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (J-4, OJCS), 
1973-1977 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1977 
Interviewer: Maj. Pember W. Rocap, USAF 
Date of Interview: 10 November 1977 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Paper transcript unclassified, but only portion of interview 
Pages: 16 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1058 
Location: AFHRA 

Catledge, Maj. Gen. Richard C. 

Air Force Air Force - Tactical Air Command 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: Specialization of aircraft; no guns in aircraft; 3d Tactical Fighter 
Wing, Bien Hoa, Vietnam; support for ground forces; support for 
C-123; construction program at Luke AFB; F-104 Fighter 
Weapons Course; importance of Tactical Air Warfare Center 
programs; joint task force on Maverick missile 

Biography: Chief, Tactical Evaluation Team; Commander, 4510th Crew 

Combat Training Wing; Inspector General, Tactical Air Command; 
Commander, Tactical Air Warfare Center 
Interviewer: 1st Lt. Wayne D. Perry, USAF 
Date of Interview: 30 September 1987; 9 December 1987 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 94 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1768 
Location: AFHRA 


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Catton, Gen. Jack J. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Replacement of Gen. Haywood Hansell with Gen. Curtis LeMay as 
21st Bomber Command CG; first postwar atomic weapons tests; 
problems in formation of Strategic Air Command; difficulties with 
Secretary of Defense (SECDEF) Robert McNamara while at 
Pentagon; over concentration of powers under SECDEF; mission 
difficulties while commander of Military Airlift Command and Air 
Force Logistics Command; incident with Senator William Proxmire 
over aircraft refurbishment 

Biography: Commander, Military Airlift Command; Commander, Air Force 
Logistics Command 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1974 
Interviewer :Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 19-20 July 1977 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 262 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 952 
Location: AFHRA 

Cercy, MG James C. 

Army Army - Laboratory Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Contents: Army reorganization; ERADCOM; Laboratory Command 

(LABCOM); research, development and evaluation (RDE) centers; 
independent research and development (IR&D); government 
industry partnerships 
Interviewer: Dr. William Moye 
Date of Interview: May 1987 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: File open to all 
Location: USAMC 

Chait, Dr. Richard 

Army Army - Materiel Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Biography: Chief Scientist 
Date of Interview: 23 May 1990 

Access Information: review not complete; file availability to be determined 
Location: USAMC 

Chambers, Lt. Col. Everett A. 

Air Force Air Force - Military Airlift Command 

Subject: Procurement - Air Force 

Contents: Military Air Transport Service C-141 program; testing, design, 

engineering and development; development panel and coordinating 
committee; operation; lead-the-force program; early failures; 
modifications; Category U program; lessons learned from C-141 


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program; concurrency procurement; C-5 and C-141 weight 
reduction; comparison of C-5 and C-141 programs 
Interview Coverage: 1959-1972 
Interviewer: Walter L. Kraus 
Date of Interview: 1 March 1972 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 53 

Finding Aids: AFHRA591 
Location: AFHRA 


Charles, Robert H. 

Air Force Air Force - Asst. Sec. for Installations/Logistics 

Subject: Procurement - Air Force 

Contents: Role as consultant for National Aeronautics and Space 

Administration; methods of awarding contracts for aircraft and 
weapon systems development; development and implementation of 
total package procurement (TPP) contracting methodology; 
development problems with experimental tactical fighter (TFX); 

F-l 11 development problems; C-5 A engine development; reasons 
for cost overruns; choice of Lockheed for C-5 A aircraft 
development; TPP effects on "design freezing;" Secretary of 
Defense Robert S. McNamara's views on value of competitive 
approach to awarding contracts; dissatisfaction with industry's 
management of minority groups; ranking Air Force retirees in 
industry; status of C-5A program upon leaving office; Lockheed's 
performance on C-5A; cost control and monitoring by Air Force 
and Lockheed; failure of Air Force (AF) to notify Congress of 
C-5A cost overrun; attempted AF gagging of Ernest Fitzgerald 
resulted in martyr status; Holifield Commission findings; cancellation 
of Dyna-Soar; role Congress should play in weapon system 
procurement; necessity of periodic updating of zero-defects-type 
program 

Biography: Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for Installations and Logistics 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1969 

Interviewer: Lt. Col. Lyn R. Officer, USAF 

Date of Interview: 21-22 January 1974 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Pages: 160 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 716 
Location: AFHRA 


Chartier, Woodrow 

Navy Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of A-7 support activity at NWC; interview to aid in the 

preparation of a history of the A-7 activity, entitled “What Have You 
Done for the Fleet Today? A Brief History of the A-7 Weapon 
System Support Activity” (NWC Pub391); relationships between 
NWC, contractors, Washington, navy, and sponsors; fielding of a 
product _ _ 

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Biography: Group interview: CAPT Joseph Clinton, Robert Freedman, VADM 
E.R. Seymour, Americo Vescovio 
Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig, IE 
Date of Interview: 19 August 1987 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: access limited 
Pages: 57 
Location: NWC 

Charyk, Joseph V. 

Air Force Air Force - Chief Scientist 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Multi- versus single-purpose aircraft; considerations of aircraft 
commonality; F- 111; research, development and procurement 
through General Dynamics; U.S. Navy opposition to experimental 
tactical fighter (TFX); role of Service secretary in Department of 
Defense (DOD); C-5A; research, development and procurement; 
development of Phoenix missile; development of short-range missile; 
development of Skybolt missile; congressional influence in 
contracts; monitoring of contractors by DOD; manned 
bomber/missile controversy; communications satellite development 
Biography: USAF Chief Scientist; Under Secretary of Air Force 

Interview Coverage: 1958-1963 
Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 24 April 1974 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Permission from interviewee required to cite or quote 
Pages: 88 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 728 
Location: AFHRA 

Chen, MG William S. 

Army Army - Missile Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Contents: End-of-tour interview; SAM-D; CHAPARRAL; MICOM; Total 

Quality Management (TQM): HELLFIRE; Multiple-Launch Rocket 
System (MLRS); ATACMS; PATRIOT 

Biography: Assistant Deputy for Systems Management/Director, Program 

Management and Oversight, Office of the Assistant Secretary for 
Research, Development and Acquisition, HQDA, Washington DC; 
Deputy Director for Weapon Systems, Office of the Deputy Chief 
of Staff for Research, Development and Acquisition, HQDA, 
Washington DC; Project Manager, Division Air Defense Gun, 
Picatinny Arsenal, NJ; Project Manager, CHAPARRAL missile 
system, U.S. Army Missile Command (MICOM), Redstone 
Arsenal, AL; Chief, Munitions Division, Office of the Deputy Chief 
of Staff for Research, Development and Acquisition, HQDA, 
Washington DC; Commander, 1st Battalion, School Brigade, U.S. 
Army Ordnance and Chemical Center and School, Aberdeen 


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Proving Ground, MD; Commanding General, MICOM, Redstone 
Arsenal, AL, October 1989 - July 1992 
Interview Coverage: 1989-1992 

Interviewer :Michael E. Baker, James D. Browne, Claus R. Martel, MICOM 
Date of Interview: 9 July 1992 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 6 

Location: USAAMCOM 

Chesarek, GEN Ferdinand J. 

Army Army - Materiel Command 

Subject: Acquisition - Army 

Contents: AMC command management; readiness; materiel acquisition; 

fielding; logistics 
Interviewer :Marken Birdsell 
Date of Interview: December 1984 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: File open to all 
Pages: 44 
Location: USAMC 

Christie, Thomas 
Air Force 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Evolution of energy maneuverability theory (EM) (new way of 

examining energy management and performance characteristics of 
fighter aircraft); application of EM theory to fighter design and 
tactics; EM theory made point-type analysis (speed and altitude 
analysis) of fighter aircraft obsolete; work with Maj. John Boyd, 
USAF, using computers to calculate aircraft performance; Tactical 
Air Command first applied EM theory; John Bums developed EM 
methodology to make comparisons between aircraft performance; 
application of EM theory to analysis of F-15 aircraft; promotion of 
cost as main consideration as opposed to performance in 
considering force options 
Interview Coverage: 1963-1973 
Interviewer: Jacob Neufeld, Office of Air Force History 
Date of Interview: 3 October 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 24 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 962 
Location: AFHRA 

Christman, Albert B. 

Navy 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Survey of pre-WWI Navy R&D activities; world war and interwar 
naval research; WWII and naval R&D; difficulties involved in 
contemporary R&D planning; increasing bureaucracy of Navy 
R&D; reorganization of naval R&D elements in the mid-1960s 


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Interview Coverage: 1900-1970s 
Interviewer: Robert J. Taormina 
Date of Interview: 8 January 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 59 
Location: DTRC 

Cianciolo, LTG August M. 

Army Army - Office of Assistant Secretary for RD&A 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Contents: Duties of Military Deputy position; changes in acquisition process; 
views on management; Army Acquisition Corps; relations with 
Congress; research, development and acquisition (RD&A) budget 
Biography: Project Manager, Standoff Target Acquisition/Attack System, Army 
Electronics Research and Development Command, Fort 
Monmouth, NJ; Project Manager, Multiple Launch Rocket System, 
U.S. Army Missile Command (MICOM), Huntsville, AL; Deputy 
for Systems Management/Director of Weapon Systems, Office of 
Deputy Chief of Staff for Research, Development and Acquisition, 
Department of the Army, Washington DC; Commanding General, 
MICOM, Huntsville, AL; Military Deputy, Office of the Assistant 
Secretary of the Army for Research, Development and Acquisition, 
Headquarters, Department of the Army, Washington DC 
Interviewer: Dwight Oland 
Date of Interview: 2 July 1991 
Place of Interview: Pentagon, Washington DC 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Cianciolo, LTG August M. 

Army Army - Office of Assistant Secretary for RD&A 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Contents: Research, development and acquisition (RD&A) staffing; 

civilianizing Army Acquisition Corps; Packard Commission; test and 
evaluation role; concurrency; risk; changes in acquisition policy; 
performance in Desert Storm; Office of the Secretary of Defense 
and budget; reorganization of industry 

Biography: Project Manager, Standoff Target Acquisition/Attack System, Army 
Electronics Research and Development Command, Fort 
Monmouth, NJ; Project Manager, Multiple Launch Rocket System, 
U.S. Army Missile Command (MICOM), Huntsville, AL; Deputy 
for Systems Management/Director of Weapon Systems, Office of 
Deputy Chief of Staff for Research, Development and Acquisition, 
Department of the Army, Washington DC; Commanding General, 
MICOM, Huntsville, AL; Military Deputy, Office of the Assistant 
Secretary of the Army for Research, Development and Acquisition, 
Headquarters, Department of the Army, Washington DC 
Interviewer: Dwight Oland 
Date of Interview: 22 July 1991 


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Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Cianciolo, LTG August M. 

Army Army - Office of Assistant Secretary for RD&A 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Contents: Smart munitions; manufacture of munitions; modernization and the 
acquisition process; Desert Storm 

Biography: Project Manager, Standoff Target Acquisition/Attack System, Army 
Electronics Research and Development Command, Fort 
Monmouth, NJ; Project Manager, Multiple Launch Rocket System, 
U.S. Army Missile Command (MICOM), Huntsville, AL; Deputy 
for Systems Management/Director of Weapon Systems, Office of 
Deputy Chief of Staff for Research, Development and Acquisition, 
Department of the Army, Washington DC; Commanding General, 
MICOM, Huntsville, AL; Military Deputy, Office of the Assistant 
Secretary of the Army for Research, Development and Acquisition, 
Headquarters, Department of the Army, Washington DC 
Interviewer: Dwight Oland 
Date of Interview: 2 August 1991 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Cianciolo, MG August M. 

Army Army - Missile Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Contents: End-of-tour interview; MICOM Research, Development and 
Engineering Center; Army Materiel Command (AMC); Total 
Quality Management (TQM); National Aeronautics and Space 
Administration (NASA); Marshall Space Flight Center 

Biography: Project Manager, Standoff Target Acquisition/Attack System, Army 
Electronics Research and Development Command, Fort 
Monmouth, NJ; Project Manager, Multiple Launch Rocket System, 
U.S. Army Missile Command (MICOM) Huntsville, AL; Deputy 
for Systems Management/Director of Weapon Systems, Office of 
Deputy Chief of Staff for Research, Development and Acquisition, 
Department of the Army, Washington DC; Commanding General, 
MICOM, Huntsville, AL 
Interview Coverage: 1988-1989 
Interviewer: Michael E. Baker and Kaylene Hughes 
Date of Interview: 27 September 1989 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 7 

Location: USAAMCOM 

Clare, Dr. Thomas 

Navy Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Interview relates to the disestablishment of NAVMAT and 
establishment of SPAWAR; discussion of command, 
communications, and control (C3); relations between SecNav and 
VADM Glenwood Clark, commander of SPAWAR; differences 


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between Special Projects Office and systems commands 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 4 April 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 22 
Location: DTRC 

Clark, Lt. Gen. Albert P. 

Air Force Air Force - Tactical Air Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Modification of F-4E for use in Southeast Asia against Soviet-built 
MiG-21; need for effective fighter aircraft; problems with 
multi-purpose aircraft serving as air superiority fighters; Tactical Air 
Command (TAC) decision to settle for 2.5-mach-speed fighter; 
limitations of F-4 and F-105 aircraft as air superiority fighters; 
recommendation of single-purpose fighter aircraft over 
multi-purpose aircraft by generals Gabriel Disosway, Hunter Harris 
and Bruce Holloway; Disosway's uniting of Tactical Air Command 
to attain single-purpose fighter aircraft; TAC problems with 
escalation of Southeast Asian war; Gen. John McConnell's 
insistence that once Air Force policy was determined, Air Force 
should speak with "one voice" and hold personal opinions in check 
Interview Coverage: 1964-1968 
Interviewer: Jacob Neufeld, Office of Air Force History 
Date of Interview: 2 May 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 9 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 858 
Location: AFHRA 

Clark, VADM Glenwood 

Navy Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Lengthy discussion of dis-establishment of NAVMAT, 

establishment of SPAWAR; remarks about need for additional 
changes in the navy's material and acquisition programs; controversy 
surrounding use of overhead for WSA&E research; 'haul-down' 
report (1985); conflicts between SPAWAR and systems commands 
over hardware R&D 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 23 May 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 72 
Location: DTRC 


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Clark, VADM Glenwood 

Navy Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of role in acquisition and WSA&E; lengthy discussion of 
administration, funding, scope, limitations of navy R&D labs; 
problem of 'encroachment' in technology development areas by 
other agencies and private firms; discussion of three major R&D 
studies by Cooper-Lybrand, Defense Science Board, and IDA; 
comments about the future of naval R&D 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 15 September 1988 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 50 
Location: DTRC 

Cleeton, Dr. Claude R. 

Navy Naval Research Laboratory 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of work on naval electronics projects; radar research; 

Space Surveillance System program 
Biography: Researcher, NRL 
Interviewer: Dr. David K. Allison 
Date of Interview: 22 January 1979 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Access Information: Open 
Location: NRL 

Clements, Sally 

Army Army - Materiel Command 

Subject: Program Management - Army 

Contents: Project management in Army Material Command (AMC), 

1962-1975 

Interview Coverage: 1962-1975. 

Interviewer: C opolla, Darius, Johnson, Leventhal 
Date of Interview: September 1987 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: File open to all 
Location: US AMC 

Cochrane, Charles B. 

OSD Education 

Subject: Defense Acquisition Workforce, Education 

Contents: Discussion of early history and contemporary workings of the Defense 

Acquisition University; professionalization of the acquisition workforce; 
challenges facing acquisition professionals (military and civilian); changes in 
the acquisition process and culture. 

Biography: Director, Center for Program Management, DAU; U.S. Army 
Interview Coverage: 1980-2004 


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Interviewer: Carolyn C. Hofig 

Date of Interview: 21 September 2004 

Length of Interview: 1 hour 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper/Electronic 

Access Information: Pending 

Pages: 16 

Location: DAHP 

Coffey, Earl E. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: F-15 workload; foam modifications on F-15 aircraft; Pacer 
Stack/Speedline program, which covers depot-level time 
compliance technical order (TCTO) update 
Interviewer: Dr. Richard W. Iobst 
Date of Interview: 29 February 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 21 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1251 
Location: AFHRA 

Coffey, Earl E. 

Air Force Air Force ■ Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Annual number of F-15 aircraft updated by depot maintenance; 

depot-activated task force objectives; complexity of F-15 support; 
time compliance technical order (TCTO) updates; foam 
modification (firefighting modification to protect aircraft from certain 
types of damage); Pacer Stack/Speedline, depot-level TCTO 
update program; TCTO program as effort to update older aircraft 
to level of new aircraft being produced; FY 1979 Depot Eagle 
Study; F-15 contingency maintenance support plan; F-15 organic 
repair capability; McDonnell-Douglas Corporation; effect of small 
contractors' labor problems on engine maintenance 
Interviewer: Dr. Richard W. Iobst 
Date of Interview: 29 February 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 21 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1241 
Location: AFHRA 

Colladay, Lt. Gen. Martin G. 

Air Force Air Force - Strategic Air Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Strategic Air Command in the 1950s; early ICBM development. 
Biography: Deputy Chief of Staff for Personnel, HQ USAF, Washington DC; 

Vice Commander, 21st Air Force, 1969; Joint Staff, Republic of 
Korea, 1970; Vice Director, Office of Joint Chief of Staff; Chief of 
Staff, Strategic Air Command, 1974; NATO Military Committee, 
1975 


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Interviewer: Hugh N. Ahmann 
Date of Interview: 18-19 October 1983 
Length of Interview: 10:00 hours 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Access Information: Pending 
Finding Aids: AFHRA 1546 
Location: AFHRA 

Collbohm, Frank 

Air Force RAND 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Career information; contracting relationships with USAF and others; 
relations between RAND and universities and aircraft industry; 
establishment of SDC; RAND contracts with AEC, CIA, NASA; 
ANSER; systems analysis 

Biography: RAND director (1946) 

Interview Coverage: 1930s-1960s 

Interviewer: Martin Collins and Joseph Tartarewicz 

Date of Interview: 28 July 1987 

Length of Interview: 5.25 hours 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 71 

Location: NASM 

Collbohm, Frank 

Defense Industry RAND Corporation 
Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Biography: Director, RAND Corporation 

Interviewer: Kenneth Leigh, Columbia University Aviation Project 
Date of Interview: May 1960 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Permission to cite or quote required from Columbia 
Pages: 21 

Publisher: Columbia University Aviation Project 
Finding Aids: AFHRA 146.34-32 
Location: AFHRA 

Colvard, Dr. James 

Navy Naval Surface Weapons Center 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of career at NSWC; merger of Naval Proving Ground 
(Dahlgren) and NOL (White Oak) to form NSWC in 1974; 
comments about administrative problems at research centers; Navy 
'micro-management' of projects; comments about the history and 
future of NSWC, especially the Combat Systems Integration Dept. 
Interview Coverage: 1969-1973 
Interviewer: Cynthia Rouse 
Date of Interview: 10 December 1976 


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Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 18 
Location: DTRC 

Colvard, Dr. James 

Navy Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Transition of Navy R&D, T&E elements from NAVMAT to 
SPAWAR; 'haul down' report 

Biography: Deputy Commander, Naval Material Command 

Interview Coverage: 1980s 

Interviewer: Dr. Vincent Marchese 

Date of Interview: 2 March 1990 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 33 

Location: DTRC 

Colvard, Dr. James 
Navy 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Overview of the history of the Mk48 torpedo development 
program; remarks about Navy approach to R&D 
Biography: Technical Director, NOTS 

Interview Coverage: 1950s-1960s 
Interviewer: Dr. Vincent Marchese 
Date of Interview: 3 August 1989 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 22 
Location: DTRC 

Colvard Dr. James 

Navy Naval Ordnance Test Station 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of career at Applied Physics Lab, NOTS; relations 
between NOTS and Washington; work on Exploratory 
Development projects at China Lake; establishment of Office of the 
Director of Naval Laboratories; comments about in-house Navy 
laboratory system, civil-military relations in the Navy R&D system 
Biography: Technical Director, NOTS 

Interview Coverage: 1950s 
Interviewer:Dr. Vincent Ponko, Jr. 

Date of Interview: 3 December 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 40 
Location: DTRC 


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Condon, MG John P. 

Marine Corps Weapons Systems Evaluation Group 
Subject: Test and Evaluation - Marine Corps 

Contents: pp. 103-111 deal with Condon's service as the Marine Corps 
representative on the Weapons Systems Evaluation Group 
Biography: Assigned to OSD Weapons Systems Evaluation Group, Washington, 
D.C., July 1950-April 1952 
Interview Coverage: 1941-1962 
Interviewer: MAJ Thomas E. Donnelly, USMC 
Date of Interview: 3, 8, 9 December 1970 
Place of Interview: Newport Beach, CA 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 177 

Conver, Steven K. 

Army Army - Assistant Secretary for RD&A 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Contents: Qualifications for position; management approach; R&D budgets; 
role of Congress; relations with industry; problems of 1990s 
drawdown 

Biography: Assistant Secretary of the Army for Research, Development and 
Acquisition, Headquarters, Department of the Army, Washington, 
D.C. 

Interviewer: Dwight Oland 
Date of Interview: 13 April 1993 
Place of Interview: Bethesda, MD 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Conver, Steven K. 

Army Army - Assistant Secretary for RD&A 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Contents: Relations with Army Staff; organization for acquisition; 

Goldwater-Nichols Act; Army Acquisition Corps; role of Congress; 
reserve components and their role; industrial base 
Biography: Assistant Secretary of the Army for Research, Development and 
Acquisition 

Interviewer: Dwight Oland 
Date of Interview: 9 June 1993 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Cook, Gen. Orval R. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Research and Development 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: World War 13 fighter aircraft development; Air Service Command; 

procurement during World War II 
Interview Coverage: 1945 

Interviewer: Dr. Murray Green, Office of Air Force History 
Date of Interview: 16 February 1970 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 


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Pages: 50 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 836 
Location: AFHRA 

Cook, Gen. Orval R. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Research and Development 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Jet engine development; Air Materiel Command organization 

following World War II; Gen. Oliver P. Echols; establishment of 
USAF; GEN Douglas MacArthur; B-36 aircraft; B-52 aircraft; 
1950s contracting methods; B-47; formation of Air Research and 
Development Command; formation of RAND Corporation; early 
missile development 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1956 

Interviewer: Maj. Richard H. Emmons, USAF, and Hugh N. Ahmann, USAF 
Date of Interview: June 1974; August 1974 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 357 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 740 
Location: AFHRA 

Coolidge, Charles A. 

OSD OSD - Secretary of Defense 

Subject: Secretary - OSD 

Biography: Special Assistant to the Secretary of Defense, 1955-1958; Director, 
Joint State Department-Defense Department Disarmament Study, 
1959 

Interview Coverage: 1950s 
Date of Interview: 1967 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 36 

Finding Aids: OH 38 
Location: Eisenhower Library 

Cooper, Maj. Gen. Paul T. 

Air Force Air Force - Space and Missile Systems 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: Engineering Division at Wright Field; Bendix Aviation Company; 

restructuring of Pacific Missile Range; impressions of McNamara 
and Gen. Yates; support for test activity; Industrial College of the 
Armed Forces; characteristics of national missile ranges; 
DOD-NASA Astronautics and Aeronautics Coordinating Board; 
Space Flight Ground Environment Panel; value of space program; 
Shuttle program; Space Reentry program; Space Systems 
Survivability program; high-energy lasers; roles and missions 
conflict; fiscal year funding; Ernest Fitzgerald whistleblowing 
Biography: Vice Commander, Space Systems Division, SAMSO; Director of 
Laboratories 

Interviewer:D r. James C. Hasdorff 


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Date of Interview: 22 August 1985 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 88 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1670 
Location: AFHRA 

Corns, Johnnie H. 

Army 

Subject: Research and Development 

Contents: Development of night observation, surveillance, and target 
acquisition systems 
Interview Coverage: 1936-1998 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Retained by MHI; oral history included with paper 
Location: MHI 

Cosby, J.T. "Bing” 

Defense Industry General Dynamics - Convair Division 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: B-36 research and development; procurement; nuclear propulsion; 

prototyping; cost growth of F-l 11 Mark II avionics; commonality; 
F-l 11 research, development, procurement and production; F-l 11 
losses and probable cause; government supervision of military 
contracts; hiring of ex-military officers by government contractors; 
development of F-l6 aircraft; lessons learned by Convair with 
F-l 11 aircraft 

Biography: Program manager, B-58 aircraft program, Convair Division, 

General Dynamics 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1973 

Interviewer:Lt. Col. Robert G. Zimmerman, USAF 

Date of Interview: 3-4 December 1973 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Pages: 136 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 693 
Location: AFHRA 

Cotton, A.H. 

Air Force Air Force - Warner Robins AMA, GA 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Contracting; distribution; supply; management; interviewed in 
connection with monograph on trend toward centralization of 
logistics functions within U.S. military since World War H; transfer 
to supply division at Warner Robins Air Materiel Area, GA; origins 
of centralization; Defense Supply Agency; Defense Logistics 
Agency; single managers; Congress; Government Accounting 
Office 

Biography: Deputy Director, Directorate of Materiel Management, Warner 
Robins Air Materiel Area, GA 
Interviewer: Dr. Charles J. Gross 


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Date of Interview: 25 March 1981 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 43 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1302 
Location: AFHRA 

Cozzens, Ernest G. 

Navy Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Involvement with Sidewinder missile program; comments about 
recent developments in air-to-air weaponry; NWC’s relationship 
with other labs; effects of naval hierarchy in Washington on lab 
activities 

Biography: Staff, NOTS/NWC 

Interview Coverage: 1950s-1970s 
Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig, HI 
Date of Interview: 25 June 1981 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 47 

Location: NWC, DTRC, NHC 

Craigie, Gen. Laurence C. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Staff 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: Research and development; XA-59; early missile efforts; 
Cook-Craigie Plan 

Biography: Deputy Chief of Staff of Air Force for Research and Development, 
1950 ’ 

Interviewer: Kenneth Leish, Columbia University Aviation Project 
Date of Interview: May 1960 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Permission to cite or quote required from Columbia 
Pages: 53 

Publisher: Columbia University Aviation Project 
Finding Aids: AFHRA 146.34-33 
Location: AFHRA 

Craigie, Lt. Gen. Laurence C. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Staff 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: Associations with National Advisory Committee on Aeronautics; 
establishment of Arnold Engineering Development Center; 
experience as First American military to fly jet (XP-59) in 1942; 
fly-before-buy concept; guided missile program in World War II; 
civilians working on military systems; military industry should be 
encouraged and not suspect 

Biography: Deputy Chief of Staff of Air Force for Research and Development, 
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Interview Coverage: 1945-1971 

Interviewer: Maj. Paul Clark, USAF, and Capt. Donald Baucom, USAF, 

Date of Interview: 24 September 1971 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 81 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 637 
Location: AFHRA 

Craigie, Lt. Gen. Laurence C. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Staff 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: USAF research and development following World War II; Far East 
Air Forces, 1950 

Biography: Deputy Chief of Staff of Air Force for Research and Development, 
1950 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1955 
Interviewer: Hugh N. Ahmann 
Date of Interview: 6 December 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 180 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 695 
Location: AFHRA 

Crawford, Jack A. 

Navy Naval Ordnance Test Station 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of role in development of Walleye, Condor, and rolling 
airframe missile (RAM) programs; NOTSNDC and ASROC 
project contributions; comparison of the management of the Walleye 
and Condor programs (he was program manager of both); role of 
contractors in research 

Biography: Program Manager, NOTS (Walleye and Condor missile programs) 

Interview Coverage: 1950s-1960s 
Interviewer: Elizabeth Babcock 
Date of Interview: 20 September 1988 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 59 
Location: NWC 

Crawford, Maj. Gen. Alden R. 

Air Force Air Force - 12th Air Force 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Air Staff for Supply and Materiel, Germany. 

Biography: Commanding General, 12th Air Force 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1953 
Interviewer:Gen. George W. Goddard, USAF 
Date of Interview: 6 June 1967 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
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Pages: 6 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 995 
Location: AFHRA 

Crossfield, Scott 

NACA National Advisory Committee on Aeronautics 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: Experiences as test pilot of National Advisory Committee on 
Aeronautics; testing of Skyrocket, F-86, X-l, X-15 and other 
aircraft 

Biography: NACA test pilot 

Interviewer: Kenneth Leish, Columbia University Aviation Project 
Date of Interview: May 1960 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Permission to cite or quote required from Columbia 
Pages: 30 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 146.34-34 
Location: AFHRA 

Cummins, Dr. William E. 

Navy David Taylor Research Center 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Remarks about working at Experimental Model Basin, David Taylor 
Model Basin; mention of GUPPY program; submarine hull design; 
testing procedures and seaworthiness studies; Polaris program; 
remarks about lab re-organizations in the 1960s 
Biography: Staff, Experimental Model Basin; Staff, David Taylor Research 

Center (DTRC) 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1960s 
Interviewer: Dr. David K. Allison 
Date of Interview: 2 August 1982 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 92 
Location: DTRC 

Cuviello, MG Peter M. 

Army Army - Signal Command 

Subject: Communications - Army 

Contents: Exit interview. 

Biography: Chief of Signal 
Date of Interview: July 2000 
Interview Medium: Tape - Video 
Location: USASC-FG 

Danielson, COL Jesse M. 

Army Army - Aviation and Missile Command 

Subject: Aviation - Army 

Contents: Aviation combat development - including System Program Review; 
_ Aviation Restructure Initiative (ARI); Risk Management (RM) _ 

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Biography: Staff, Directorate of Combat Developments (DCD) 

Interview Coverage: 

Interviewer:Dr. James W. Williams 
Date of Interview: 26 August 1999 
Length of Interview: 45 min. tape+notes 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 

Access Information: Open; filed alpha in file cabinet, 870-5.4000 series 
Location: AABHO 

Dapper, Janies 

Navy David Taylor Research Center 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Remarks about WWD-era submarines; designing the BARBEL, a 
diesel submarine with an Albacore-type hull; comments about the 
Regulus missile and Polaris submarine programs; X-l submarine 
project 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1960s 
Interviewer: David K. Allison 
Date of Interview: 12 January 1983 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 18 
Location: DTRC 

David, Dr. Charles M. 

Navy Naval Research Laboratory 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Work on fiber optic systems; relations with DARPA; basic research 
funding problems 
Interviewer :Dr. David K. Allison 
Date of Interview: 1 July 1982 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open - transcript incomplete 
Pages: 28 
Location: NRL 

Davidson, Harold E. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Status of program management responsibility transfer for F-15 
aircraft; status of avionics intermediate shops for F-15 
Interview Coverage: 1980 
Interviewer:Dr. Richard W. Iobst 
Date of Interview: 2 October 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 7 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1259 
Location: AFHRA 


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Davies, Merton 

Air Force RAND 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Career information; work on satellite, reconnaissance; aerospace 
industry studies; Air Force activities; D-558 aircraft project; 
procurement 

Biography: RAND mathematician 

Interview Coverage: 1930s-1960s 

Interviewer: Joseph Tartarewicz 

Date of Interview: 28 July 1985 

Length of Interview: 3.5 hours 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: use restrictions not established 

Pages: 39 

Location: NASM 

Davis, Dale M. 

Air Force 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: F-15 aircraft development program; debate over value of guns 

versus missiles on aircraft; study of optimum gun characteristics for 
close air support role; Air Force "anti-gun" attitude between 
1956-1964; comparison of lethality of F-15 GAU-7 gun and A-10 
GAU-8 gun; denied problems with 30mm gun for A-X aircraft 
Interview Coverage: 1956-1967 

Interviewer: Jacob Neufeld and Maj. Ralph A. Rowley, USAF, Office of Air 
Date of Interview: 22 May 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 23 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 963 
Location: AFHRA 

Davis, James N. 

OSD 

Subject: Defense Acquisitions Policy 

Biography: DASD (Weapons Systems and Industrial Readiness) 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1960s 

Interviewer: Elliott V. Converse, III; Walter S. Poole 

Date of Interview: 29 June 2001 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Pending 

Location: DAHP 

Davis, Lt. Gen. Leighton I. 

Air Force 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: Early air-to-air missiles; recruitment of personnel for research and 
development following World War II; German scientists working in 
United States; development of computer war game; creation of Air 


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Research and Development Command; influence of industry with 
Department of Defense in 1950s; phase-down of Holloman AFB, 
NM as missile test center; inertial navigation systems; nonprofit 
corporations; creation of Air Force Systems Command; Advanced 
Research Projects Agency; USAF satellite tracking system; NASA 
Eastern Test Range; R&D methods; contracting; comments on 
Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1965 

Interviewer: Maj. Lyn R. Officer, USAF, and Hugh N. Ahmann, USAF Oral 
Date of Interview: 26 April 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 119 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 668 
Location: AFHRA 

Davis, Lt. Gen. W. Austin 

Air Force Air Force - Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Creation of Air Force Systems Command (AFSC) from Air 

Research and Development Command and Air Materiel Command; 
AFSC budgeting; approval of system research and development; 
experimental tactical fighter aircraft (TFX) research and 
development; C-5A research and development; R&D 
decision making in Department of Defense; lack of conventional 
weapons development after Korean War; AFSC and Director of 
Defense for Research and Engineering; Office of System Analysis; 
Skybolt program; competition between Services over development 
and acquisition of weapon systems; USAF/NASA space efforts; 
missile development of 1950s; missile gap of 1960s; weapon system 
cost studies; F-15; U.S. Army helicopters; other fighter aircraft; 
nonprofit corporations; private institutional research for USAF; 
impressions of Gen. Bernard A. Schriever, Gen. James Ferguson 
and Dr. Harold Brown; post-World War II procurement methods 
Biography: Vice Commander, Air Force Systems Command 

Interview Coverage: 1950-1967 

Interviewer: Maj. Lyn R. Officer, USAF, and Hugh N. Ahmann, USAF Oral 
Date of Interview: 23-24 April 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 243 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 669 
Location: AFHRA 

Davitt, Lt. Col. Stephen J. 

Air Force Air Force - 3d Air Division 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Logistical support for Strategic Air Command operations in 

Southeast Asia from Kadena AB, Okinawa, Anderson AFB, Guam 
and U Tapao Royal Thai AFB, Thailand; munitions resupply 
Biography: Chief of Logistics, 3d Air Division 


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Interview Coverage: 1965-1967 
Interviewer: Robert M. Kipp 
Date of Interview: 8 August 1968 
Length of Interview: 0:44 hour 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Access Information: CONFIDENTIAL 
Publisher: Corona Harvest 
Finding Aids: AFHRA 185 
Location: AFHRA 

Dawson, Victor 

Navy Naval Ordnance Lab - White Oak 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: History of Mk48 torpedo; work on torpedo at the Naval Ordnance 
Laboratory; development of cone filter acquisition system at NOL; 
transfer of technical direction of the Mk 48 program to the Naval 
Underwater Systems Center 

Biography: Head, Underwater Development at the Naval Surface Warfare 
Center 

Interview Coverage: 1960s-1970s 
Interviewer:D y. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 9 August 1989 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 9 
Location: DTRC 

Deane, GEN John R. 

Army Army - Materiel Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Contents: AMC command management; AMARC; research and 
development; M1 tank development 
Interviewer: Marken Birdsell 
Date of Interview: March 1985 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Incomplete file - requires completion of interviewee's edit 
Pages: 107 
Location: US AMC 

Dernier, Maj. Gen. Marvin C. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Research and Development 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Biography: Vice Commander, Wright Air Development Center, 

Wright-Patterson AFB, OH, 1949-1954; Assistant Deputy/Deputy 
Commander for Research and Development, HQ Air Research and 
Development Command, Baltimore, MD and Andrews AFB, MD; 
Commander, Chanute Technical Training Center, Chanute AFB, IL; 
Special Assistant to Joint Chiefs of Staff for Arms Control, 
1969-1971 


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Interviewer: Hugh N. Ahmann 

Date of Interview: February 1984; March 1988 

Length of Interview: 20:00 hours 

Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 

Access Information: Pending 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1851 

Location: AFHRA 

Desanto, James D. 

Navy National Defense Research Committee 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Joint interview with Robert Appleton 
Biography: Researcher, NDRC 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1950s 
Interviewer: Albert B. Christman 
Date of Interview: 15 April 1969 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 31 
Location: DTRC 

Dickerson, CAPT Kenneth A. 

Navy Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of tour at China Lake; military-civil relations at lab; 

problem programs, including HARM low-cost seeker, ACIMD, 
Bigeye; politics of military RDT&E; 'firing of Burrell Hays at 
Paisley's hands 

Biography: Program officer, Naval Weapons Center 

Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig 

Date of Interview: 13 June 1986; 20 June 1986 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: access limited 

Pages: 43 

Location: NWC 

Disosway, Gen. Gabriel P. 

Air Force Air Force - Tactical Air Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Maj. Gen. Kenneth P. McNaughton's confrontation with President 
Lyndon B. Johnson; maintenance problems at Flying Training Air 
Force; Gen. George Kenney; Gen. "Hank" Everest; Gen. "Freddy" 
Smith; reorganization of United States Air Forces in Europe; 
Secretary of the Air Force Zuckert; Gen. Lauris Norstad; 
relationship with Gen. Curtis LeMay; Gen. "Cam" Sweeney; 
Disosway report; Howze Board; Army-Air Force controversy over 
close air support; Gen. "Spike" Momyer; responsibilities of Weapon 
System Evaluation Group; Secretary of Defense Robert S. 
McNamara and senior officers; Joint Chiefs and McNamara; 


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Secretary of the Air Force Thomas S. Reed; Gen. John McConnell; 
Gen. John Ryan; USAFE relationship with other Air Force 
commands; Tactical Air Command (TAC); nuclear versus 
conventional weapons; F-111; A-7; involvement in A-7B program; 
B-l cancellation; Gen. Ennis Whitehead; fighting for money 
Biography: Assistant Commandant, Barksdale Field, LA; Chief of Training 

Division, HQ USAF, Washington DC; Director of Training, HQ 
USAF; Commanding General, Air Force Training Command’s 
Flying Training Air Force, 1952; Commander, 12th Air Force, 
USAFE; Deputy Commander, 17th Air Force; Deputy Chief of 
Staff for Operations, HQ USAF 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1977 
Interviewer: Lt. Col. John N. Dick, Jr., USAF 
Date of Interview: 4-7 October 1977 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 382 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 974 
Location: AFHRA 

Dixon, Gen. Robert J. 

Air Force Air Force - Seventh Air Force 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Conventional military capability versus nuclear capability; Secretary 
of Defense Robert S. McNamara; rivalry between Army and Air 
Force over control of NSC service contract; Military Airlift 
Command support to Tactical Air Command; evaluation of 
A-7/A-10 flyoff in 1974; foreign military sales; procurement of 
F-16s; B-l; Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS) 
Biography: Assistant Director of Plans, NSC-OCB; Assistant for NSC Affairs; 

Commander, AFMPC; Vice Commander/Commander, Seventh Air 
Force, Republic of Vietnam 
Interviewer:C apt. Mark C. Cleary, USAF 
Date of Interview: 18-19 July 1984 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 329 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1591 
Location: AFHRA 

Dixon, Kyle 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Pacer Web program (specialized repair program with McDonnell 
Douglas Corporation for F-15 components); integration of spares 
acquisition with production; basic ordering agreement for F-15 
aircraft repair; coverage of basic ordering agreement for crash and 
battle damage to F-15 aircraft; contracts with Hughes Aircraft 
Corporation, producer of F-15 radar; parts of F-15 manufactured 
by foreign sources; purchase of spare parts for foreign countries; 
tactical electronic warfare support; prefabricated, air-transportable 
buildings t o house F-15 aircraft; use of priority methods of letter 

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contracting due to F-15's vital role in defense posture; spare parts 
shortages for F-15 in FY 1979; secondary priority of spares 
compared to systems; accomplishment of savings through efficient 
contracting methods 
Interview Coverage: 1980 
Interviewer:Dr. Richard W. Iobst 
Date of Interview: 26 February 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 33 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1239 
Location: AFHRA 

Dixon, Lt. Gen. Robert J. 

Air Force Air Force - Seventh Air Force 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Research and development of munitions used in Southeast Asia. 
Biography: Assistant Director of Plans, NSC-OCB; Assistant for NSC Affairs; 

Commander, AFMPC; Vice Commander/Commander, Seventh Air 
Force, Republic of Vietnam 
Interview Coverage: 1969-1970 

Interviewer: Col. John J. Rosenow, USAF, and Maj. Richard B. Clement, 

Date of Interview: 1-2 December 1970 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: TOP SECRET/NOFORN 
Pages: 53 

Publisher: Corona Harvest 
Finding Aids: AFHRA 385 
Location: AFHRA 

Doak, Robert 

Navy Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command 

Subject: Acquisition - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of establishment of SPA WAR; problems with acquisition 
in NAVELEX; transformation of SPAWAR from matrix to vertical 
organization; relationship between SPAWAR and Navy systems 
commands; transfer of 51 programs from SPAWAR to Naval Air 
Systems Command (NAVAIR); evaluation of management of 
WSA&E and R&D centers within SPAWAR 
Biography: Deputy Commander, SPAWAR 

Interview Coverage: 1960s-1980s 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 17 April 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 30 
Location: DTRC 

Dolvin, LTG Welborn G. 

Army Army - Tank-Automotive Command 

Subject: Program Management - Army 


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Contents: Experience as first PM for U.S./FRG MBT-70 project; U.S./FRG 
problems in development. 

Biography: Program Manager, U.S./FRG MBT-70 program 

Interview Coverage: 1963-1966 

Interviewer: Mihalak 

Date of Interview: November 1986 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: File open to all 

Pages: 27 

Location: USAMC 

Donley, Col. George R. 

Air Force Air Force - Systems Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Assignments in air materiel duties; weapon system modifications; 

development of air medical evacuation capabilities 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1956 

Interviewer: Roger D. Launius, Air Force Systems Command History Office 
Date of Interview: 24 March 1987 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 40 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1787 
Location: AFF1RA 

Donnelly, Lt. Gen. Harold C. 

Air Force Defense Atomic Support Agency 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: Maj. Gen. Alvin R. Luedecke; responsibility for nuclear tests in 

Nevada desert; struggle over strategic missile mission; formation of 
National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA); tests of 
nuclear weapons effects; Thor missile firings from Johnston Island; 
underground tests in Nevada; U.S. test at Amchitka, Alaska, to test 
acoustic worldwide detection system; Dyna-Soar program; creation 
of "clean" nuclear weapons; Atomic Energy Commission 
Biography: Established Special Weapons Command; Chief of Staff, Armed 
Forces Special Weapons Project; Plans Officer, Supreme 
Headquarters Allied Powers Europe (SHAPE); Assistant Deputy 
Chief of Staff for Plans and Programs, HQ USAF, Washington, 
D.C.; Chairman, U.S. Section, Canada/U.S. Military Coordinating 
Committee; Commander, Field Command, Defense Atomic 
Support Agency (DASA); Director, DASA 
Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 22-23 May 1984 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 194 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1577 
Location: AFHRA 


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Doolittle, GEN James H. 

Air Force 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Biography: Special Assistant to Air Force Chief of Staff for Scientific and 
Industrial Matters, 1951 
Interviewer: Richard H. Kohn 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Editor: Jacob Neufeld 

Title: "Reflections on Research and Development in the United States Air 
Force" 

Publisher: Center for Air Force History 
Date of Publication: 1993 

Doolittle, Lt. Gen. James H. 

Air Force National Advisory Committee on Aeronautics 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Transition in National Advisory Committee on Aeronautics 

(NACA) from subsonic to supersonic flight; association with Gen. 
H.H. Arnold; association with Theodore von Karman; relations 
between USAF and NACA; evolution of Aerospace Corporation; 
Gen. Bernard A. Schriever and concept of systems engineering; 
development of ballistic missile 

Biography: Chairman, National Advisory Committee on Aeronautics 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1969 

Interviewer. -Dr. Eugene M. Emme and W.D. Putnam 

Date of Interview: 21 April 1969 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Pages: 53 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 625 
Location: AFHRA 

Doolittle, Lt. Gen. James H. 

Air Force National Advisory Committee on Aeronautics 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics; contribution of Air 
Force Scientific Advisory Board to national security; Dr. Theodore 
von Karman's book, New Horizons, and its relationship to Air 
Force technical development; military use of space 
Biography: Chairman, National Advisory Committee on Aeronautics 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1965 

Interviewer: Arthur K. Marmor, Office of Air Force History 

Date of Interview: 23 June 1965 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: For official use only 

Pages: 34 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 623 
Location: AFHRA 


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Dougherty, Gen. Russell E. 

Air Force Air Force - Strategic Air Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: 20th Air Force, Guam; Farnsworth Case; C-47; B-29; KC-97; 

Strategic Air Command (SAC); generals Ned Almond, Earle 
Partridge, George Stratmeyer, Douglas MacArthur and James 
Doolittle; Gen. Lauris Norstad; Gen. David C. Jones; missile force; 
interservice rivalry; CORONA HARVEST; B-36; B-l; B-70; 
effect of Sputnik on USAF; Gen. Thomas Power; SAC and B-58; 
Gen. John Ryan; Gen. David Burchinal 

Biography: Assistant for Contract Matters, Wright-Patterson AFB, OH; 

Deputy Director for War Plans, HQ USAF, Washington DC; 
Assistant Deputy Chief of Staff, HQ USAF; Commander, Second 
Air Force; Commander, Strategic Air Command 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1977 

Interviewer: Hugh N. Ahmann 

Date of Interview: August 1979; November 1979 

Length of Interview: 14:30 hours 

Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 

Access Information: Pending 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1139 

Location: AFHRA 

Dougherty, Gen. Russell E. 

Air Force Air Force - Strategic Air Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Conversion from B-47 to B-52 aircraft; KC-97 aircraft; GBU-15 
weapons; modifications to B-52 aircraft; B-l aircraft; FB-111 
aircraft; modifications to KC-135 aircraft; improvements to SAC 
missile force; MX missile 

Biography: Assistant for Contract Matters, Wright-Patterson AFB, OH; 

Deputy Director for War Plans, HQ USAF, Washington DC; 
Assistant Deputy Chief of Staff, HQ USAF; Commander, Second 
Air Force; Commander, Strategic Air Command 
Interviewer: John T. Bohn, Strategic Air Command History Office 
Date of Interview: 13 December 1977 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: SECRET 
Pages: 78 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1801 
Location: AFHRA 

Dougherty, Gen. Russell E. 

Air Force Air Force - Strategic Air Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: B-l program. 

Biography: Assistant for Contract Matters, Wright-Patterson AFB, OH; 

Deputy Director for War Plans, HQ USAF, Washington DC; 
Assistant Deputy Chief of Staff, HQ USAF; Commander, Second 


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Air Force; Commander, Strategic Air Command 
Interviewer:^^ Pappas, Columbia Broadcasting System 
Date of Interview: 27 January 1977 
Length of Interview: 2:00 hours 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Publisher: Donated by Strategic Air Command 
Finding Aids: AFHRA 1821 
Location: AFHRA 

Douglas, James H., Jr. 

Air Force OSD - Deputy Secretary of Defense 

Subject: Secretary - Air Force 

Biography: Under Secretary, 1953-1957, and Secretary, 1957-1959, 

Department of the Air Force; Deputy Secretary of Defense, 
1959-1961 

Interview Coverage: 1953-1961 
Date of Interview: 1972 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 53 

Finding Aids: OH 288 
Location: Eisenhower Library 

Douglas, James H., Jr. 

Air Force Air Force - Under Secretary 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Selection as Under Secretary of Air Force; appropriations after 
Korean War; interservice rivalry for funds; development of 
warheads; revisions in budget under Eisenhower; Robert A. Lovett's 
contributions; budget cuts and protests; Gen. Twining as Chief of 
Staff; Secretary Talbott's resignation; U-2; 1957 reorganization of 
Joint Chiefs of Staff; Rockefeller Fund report; President Eisenhower 
on funding services; ICBM construction; Navajo missile; 
establishment of Western Development Division; missile gap; 
reaction to Sputnik; B-70; B-58 problems; development of air 
transport in Air Force 

Biography: Under Secretary of Air Force 

Interview Coverage: 1953-1979 
Interviewer: Hugh N. Ahmann 
Date of Interview: 13-14 June 1979 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 173 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1126 
Location: AFHRA 

Douglas, James H., Jr. 

Air Force Air Force - Secretary 

Subject: Secretary - Air Force 

Biography: Secretary of the Air Force, 1957-1959; Asst. Secretary of the 

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Treasury, 1932-1933 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 35 

Location: Eisenhower Library 

Doyle, Morris M. 

Defense Industry Stanford Research Institute 
Subject: Defense Industry 

Biography: Director, Stanford Research Institute; President, Stanford University 
Board of Trustees 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 14 

Location: Hoover Library, Stanford University 

Driessnack, Lt. Gen. Hans H. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Staff 

Subject: Contract Management - Air Force 

Contents: C-141 aircraft; Air Force Systems Command Office of 

Comptroller; Office of Assistant Secretary of Air Force (Financial 
Management) 

Biography: Project Officer, C-133 aircraft program; Deputy Chief of Staff, 

Comptroller, Air Force Systems Command (AFSC); Deputy Chief 
of Staff, Procurement and Production, AFSC, 1976; Director of 
Budget, Office of Comptroller, HQ USAF, Washington DC, 1976; 
Assistant Vice Chief of Staff, HQ USAF, 1981 
Interviewer: Hugh N. Ahmann 
Date of Interview: 18-19 October 1987 
Length of Interview: 13:00 hours 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Access Information: Pending 
Finding Aids: AFHRA 1769 
Location: AFHRA 

Dryden, Hugh 

Air Force National Defense Research Committee 

Subject: Guided Missiles 

Contents: Guided missiles; fighter development; jets 

Biography: Aeronautical engineer; National Defense Research Committee 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1960 
Interviewer: Kenneth Leish, Columbia University 
Date of Interview: February 1960 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Permission to cite or quote required from Columbia 
Title: (Columbia University Aviation Project) 

Pages: 40 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 146.34-41 
Location: AFHRA 


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DuBridge, Lee 

Defense Industry RAND 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Joint interview with Robert Bacher 

Interview Coverage: 1930s-1950s 

Interviewer: Martin Collins and Joseph Tartarewicz 

Date of Interview: 21 July 1988 

Length of Interview: 2 hours 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 45 

Location: NASM 

Dunaway, Richard 

Air Force Air Force - Automation 

Subject: Automation - Air Force 

Contents: Early stages of Air Force automation; government sponsors 
computer development under Project SCOOP (Scientific 
Computation of Optimum Programs) because civilian industry could 
not yet support burden; early leaders in Air Force automation were 
Drs. Dantzig, Edmund Learned, Marshall Wood, Von Neumann; 
Bureau of Standards acted as contract agency for Air Force in 
SCOOP; SEAC (Standards Eastern Automatic Computer) 
developed to serve as interim for UNIVAC; role played by GEN 
Frederick J. Dau in SCOOP; SWAC (Special Warhead Arming 
Control) a variant of SEAC; SCOOP suffered from Eisenhower 
Administration's economy drive; SCOOP terminated in 1954 due to 
industry capability to handle automation requirements 
Biography: Executive Director, Air Force Data Services Center 

Interview Coverage: 1973 

Interviewer: Cadet James R. Luntzel DI, USAF Academy 
Date of Interview: 22 June 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 11 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 935 
Location: AFHRA 

Dunetz, Bryant R. 

Army Army - Materiel Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Contents: Cooperative R&D, standardization agreements and groups; 

co-production; interoperability 
Interviewer: Darius Coppola 
Date of Interview: February 1987 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: File open to all 
Pages: 17 
Location: USAMC 


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Dunlap, Jack 
Navy 

Subject: Acquisition - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of development of the Polaris program (Naval Institute 
interview) 

Biography: Member, Polaris Steering Committee 

Interview Coverage: 1960s 
Interviewer: unknown 
Date of Interview: October 1972 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 32 

Location: NEC, NWCM, USNI 

Eaker, LTG Ira C. 

Air Force U.S. Army Air Forces, 1945-1947 

Subject: United States Army Air Forces, 1945-1947 

Biography: Deputy Commanding General and Chief of Air Staff, HQ USAAF, 
1945-1947; retired, August 1947; Vice President, Hughes Tool 
Company, 1947-1957; Executive, Douglas Aircraft Company, 
1957-1961; Consultant, Hughes Aircraft Company, 1967 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1947 
Interviewer: Hugh N. Ahmann 

Date of Interview: 10-11 February, 14-15 April, 11 November 1975 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 617 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 829 
Location: AFHRA 

Eckert, LTG W.D. 

Air Force Air Force - Tactical Air Command 

Subject: Tactical Air Command 

Contents: Resources for limited war; personal views on limited war concept; 

USAF-Army relationship; Tactical Air Command and its future role 
and mission in Air Force; need for USAF comptroller; cost and 
budgeting for weapons 
Interview Coverage: 1961 

Interviewer: Joseph W. Angell, Jr., Dr, Charles H. Hildreth and Arthur K. 

Date of Interview: 15 March 1961 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 10 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 770 
Location: AFHRA 

Ekas, RADM Claude P. 

Navy 

Subject: Acquisition - Navy 

Contents: Harpoon project history; interdepartmental and inter-bureau 

co-operation between Harpoon Program Managers and technical 
_ workers; Coordination problems between SARS, SYSCOM and 

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CNM; remarks about trends in Navy R&D, cradle-to-grave 
technical continuity 
Interview Coverage: 1960s 
Interviewer: CAPT Robert L. Hansen 
Date of Interview: 1975 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 42 

Location: NHC, DTRC 
Elder, MG William E. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Armament Test Center 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: Discusses Air Force Armament Test Center, Eglin AFB, FL; 

Armed Forces Staff College 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1964 
Interviewer ;Dr. James Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 13 September 1984 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 113 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1608 
Location: AFHRA 

Ellis, GEN Richard H. 

Air Force Air Force - Tactical Air Command 

Subject: Procurement - Air Force 

Contents: B-l, F-15 and F-16 aircraft; USAFE command and control; SAC 
force structure planning, FB-111, B-l, Stealth, B-52, ALCM, 
SLBM, Titan; observations on GEN Kenney, GEN Mac Arthur, 
GEN Norstad, GEN Brown, Secretary Harold Brown, GEN David 
C. Jones, GEN Alexander Haig and others 

Biography: Recall to active duty, 1950; assignments to Tactical Air Command, 
Langley AFB, VA, 49th Air Division, Sculthorpe, England and 
SHAPE, Chief of Staff for Operations, 19th Air Force, Foster 
AFB, TX; XO to GEN LeMay; Commander, 315th Air Division; 
Joint Staff and Air Plans; Commander, 9th Air Force; Vice 
CINCUSAFE; Commander, 6th Allied Tactical Air Forces; Vice 
Chief of Staff of Air Force; CINCSAC 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1987 
Interviewer. LTC Maurice Maryanow, USAF 
Date of Interview: 17-21 August 1987 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Pending 
Pages: 279 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1764 
Location: AFHRA 


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Emrick, LTG Paul S. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Research and Development 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Development of B-52 Stratofortress; formation of Project RAND. 
Biography: Assistant to Deputy Chief of Air Staff for Research and 

Development, HQ AAF, 1945; Staff Planning Officer, London, 
1950; Senior Military Member, Plans and Policy Staff of U.S. 
Special Representative in Europe, Paris, France, June 1952; 
Inspector General, Strategic Air Command, January 1958; Chief of 
Staff, Pacific Command, May 1965 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1965 
Interviewer: Hugh N. Ahmann 
Date of Interview: March 1985 
Length of Interview: 3:30 hours 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Access Information: Pending 
Finding Aids: AFHRA 1637 
Location: AFHRA 

Estes, GEN Howell M., Jr. 

Air Force Air Force - Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Developments in nuclear capability; air refueling; research and 
development; Operation CASTLE; direction of weapon system 
operations at Wright-Patterson AFB, OH; reorganization of Air 
Force Systems Command under GEN Bernard A. Schriever; 

F-l 11 and C-5A development; satellite and missile development 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1973 

Interviewer. LTC Lyn R. Officer, USAF, and LTC Robert G. Zimmerman, 

Date of Interview: 17-20 August 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 345 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 686 
Location: AFHRA 

Etheridge, CAPT Melvin R. 

Navy Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of the creation of the NWC in August 1967; 

contributions of NWC to fleet in Vietnam; basic research and 
importance of discretionary funding in R&D; center relations with 
headquarters 

Biography: Commander, Naval Weapons Center 

Interview Coverage: 1960s-1970s 
Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig, III 
Date of Interview: 23 September 1983 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 28 


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Location: NWC 

Evans, GEN William J. 

Air Force Air Force - Research and Development Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Biography: Assigned to Air Research and Development Command, 1951-52; 

Assistant Deputy Director of Concepts and Operational Readiness, 
Defense Communications Planning Group, Washington DC, June 
1968; Special Assistant for Sensor Exploitation and other R&D 
positions; Commander, Air Force Systems Command, August 
1975; AAFCE and USAFE Commander, July 1977 
Interview Coverage: 1946-1978 
Interviewer :Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 18-19 September 1979 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Pending 
Pages: 209 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1144 
Location: AFHRA 

Everest, GEN Frank F. 

Air Force 

Subject: Procurement - Air Force 

Contents: AGM-65 missile development; tactical weapon development; cruise 
missile criticisms; B-l aircraft cancellation; atomic weapons 
development; Black Knight aircraft development; U-2 aircraft flight 
support; mobile medium-range ballistic missile; F-4 aircraft 
acquisition; F-100 aircraft problems; F-86 aircraft in Korean 
conflict 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1961 
Interviewer: LTC John N. Dick, Jr. 

Date of Interview: 23-25 August 1977 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 368 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 957 
Location: AFHRA 

Ezell, Morris E. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: F-102 and F-106 aircraft; Air Force Logistics Command; Air 
Force Logistics Command goals and missions during Vietnam 
conflict; techniques of working with civilian weapon systems 
contractors; duties and missions of Warner Robins Air Logistics 
Center; philosophy of management developed during career 
Biography: Deputy Chief of Service Engineering, San Diego, CA, November 
1957; Chief Logistics Officer, XB-70 aircraft program; Chief, 
production management branches and foreign sales of F-5, F-15 
and F-16 aircraft; Chief, Technical Services Branch, San Antonio 
Air Logistics Center, TX, dealing with automatic test equipment for 


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F-l 11 aircraft; part of maintenance staff at headquarters, 
Wright-Patterson AFB, OH; Assistant to Commander of Air Force 
Acquisition Logistics Division; Deputy Director of Material 
Management in June 1980; retired 1 January 1984 
Interview Coverage: 1948-1984 
Interviewer: Dr. R.W. Iobst 
Date of Interview: 21 December 1983 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 28 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1615 
Location: AFHRA 

Fairall, COL Janies P., Jr. 

Army Army - Operations Support Command 

Subject: Logistics - Army 

Contents: Discussion of historical role of Chief of Staff at command 

headquarters; management of HQ, IOC staff; streamlining trend; 
arsenals and depots 

Biography: Chief of Staff, U.S. Army Industrial Operations Command 

Interview Coverage: 1997 

Interviewer: Thomas J. Slattery 

Date of Interview: 6 March 1997 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open - printed and distributed 

Pages: 16 

Location: USAOSC 

Farinha, Claude J. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: Efforts to reduce sales price for aircraft; Depot Maintenance 
Industrial Fund (DMIF) sales rates; technology repair center 
concept, which promoted specialization of function at air logistics 
centers and enabled them to compete more effectively with private 
industry; integer of logistics program; F/FB-111 aircraft avionics 
modernization program; advanced tactical fighter acquisition; 
Turkish (Remo II) and Spanish (Peace Sigma) programs; 
computerization 

Biography: Administrative Officer, Plans and Programs Division, Directorate of 
Maintenance, Sacramento Air Logistics Center, August 1956; 

Chief, Industrial Engineering Division, May 1959; M.A., Industrial 
Management, MIT, 1960; Deputy Chief, Space Vehicles Inventory 
Management Division, Directorate of Materiel Management, August 
1961; Chief, Shops Division, 1963; Deputy Chief of Maintenance, 
1968; Assistant Deputy Chief of Staff for Maintenance, HQ Air 
Force Logistics Command, Wright-Patterson AFB, OH, October 
1971; Deputy Director, Materiel Management, Sacramento Air 
Logistics Center, July 1975 
Interview Coverage: 1952-1986 


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Interviewer: Craig W. Luther, Sacramento Air Logistics Center History Office 
Date of Interview: July 1986 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 164 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1743 
Location: AFHRA 

Farley, Frank 

Navy Naval Ordnance Lab - White Oak 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of history of Mk48 torpedo program; role of Naval 
Surface Warfare Center in torpedo development; description of 
Westinghouse-Clevite "shootout" at Cape Canaveral 
Biography: Staff, NOL 

Interview Coverage: 1960s 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 24 July 1989 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Access Information: Open 
Location: DTRC 

Faulkner, James 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: Effects of company strikes among F-15 vendors; provision of 
spare-parts kits; transfer of F-15 program management 
responsibility; poor cost effectiveness of F-15 Avionic Intermediate 
Program 

Interview Coverage: 1980 
Interviewer: Dr. Richard W. Iobst 
Date of Interview: 21 February 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 14 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1240 
Location: AFHRA 

Ferguson, GEN James 

Air Force Air Force - Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Reorganization of Air Research and Development Command into 
AFSC; objections to reorganization; qualifications of AFSC 
Commander; 1958 DOD reorganization; missile research and 
development; Atlas, Titan and Minuteman funding; solid-fuel 
missiles; air-breathing missiles; short-range attack missile; Skybolt 
cancellation; Hound Dog; duplication of effort; role of Director of 
Defense Research and Engineering; need for air-superiority fighter, 
simple and cheap aircraft and short takeoff and landing aircraft; 
Soviet edge in air superiority; AW ACS development. 

Biography: Former Commander, Air Force Systems Command (AFSC) 


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Interview Coverage: 1945-1970 

Interviewer: MAJ Lyn R. Officer and Dr. James C. Hasdorff, USAF Oral 
Date of Interview: 8-9 May 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 134 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 672 
Location: AFHRA 

Ferguson, Mary 

Navy Navy - Office of Naval Research 

Subject: Procurement - Navy 

Contents: Taped discussion of a report on Navy financial management of 
R&D by Booz-Allen & Hamilton; discussion of the effects of the 
National Security Acts of 1947 and 1949 on the R&D budget 
process; relationships between the Comptroller of the Office of 
Naval Research and the Department of Defense; how funding 
changes created the program planning process 

Biography: Comptroller of the Office of Naval Research 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1960s 

Interviewer: Susan Frutkin 

Date of Interview: 5 July 1974 

Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 

Access Information: Open 

Location: NHC, DTRC 

Ferguson, Mary 

Navy Navy - Office of Naval Research 

Subject: Procurement - Navy 

Contents: Interview funded by Schlesinger Library, part of "Women in the 
Federal Government" project; role as Comptroller of ONR; work 
as Special Assistant for financial management to the Assistant 
Secretary of the Navy for R&D; experiences as a witness in the 
presentation of annual Navy RDT&E budget proposals submitted to 
Congress 

Biography: Comptroller of the Office of Naval Research 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1970s 
Interviewer: unknown 

Date of Interview: 19 February 1983; 5 March 1983 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 112 

Location: RAD 

Finletter, Thomas 

Air Force Air Force - Secretary 

Subject: Secretary - Air Force 

Biography: Secretary of the Air Force, 1950-1953 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 


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Location: Truman Library 


Finletter, Thomas K. 

Air Force Air Force - Secretary 

Subject: Defense Industry 

Contents: President's Air Policy Commission, 1947; value of keeping extant 
aircraft industry 

Interview Coverage: 1950-1953 
Interviewer: COL Marvin M. Stanley 
Date of Interview: February 1967 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 45 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 760 
Location: AFHRA 

Fisette, Michael 

Army Army - Materiel Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Biography: Principal Deputy, Technology 
Date of Interview: 9 February 1998 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: review not complete; file availability to be determined 
Location: USAMC 

Fish, LTG Howard M. 

Air Force 

Subject: Procurement - Air Force 

Contents: Air Force purchase of insufficient number of F-l 11 and C-5 
aircraft; F-l 11 versus A-7 aircraft; brief for Harold Brown on 
whether to purchase F-5 or A-7 aircraft; escalation factors for B-l 
bomber; cost comparison of B-52G and B-52H versus B-l; foreign 
military sales (FMS) and slow congressional approval; FMS and 
national interest; grant aid versus FMS; disadvantage of 
"buy-American-only" policy 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1982 
Interviewer: CVT Mark C. Cleary, USAF 
Date of Interview: 3-5 February 1982 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 237 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1304 
Location: AFHRA 

Fitzgerald, MG William A., Jr. 

Army Army - Security and Assistance Command 

Subject: Logistics - Army 

Biography: Chief, Office of Military Cooperation, Cairo, Egypt, July 1989 - 
June 1992; Commanding General, U.S. Army Security and 
Assistance Command (US AS AC), July 1992 
Interview Coverage: 1989-1992 

Interviewer. Dr. Robert Darius, U.S. Army Materiel Command History Office 


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Date of Interview: September 1995 
Location: USAMC 

Flax, Alexander H. 

Air Force Air Force - Chief Scientist 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: R&D of F-15, F-14, A-7, AX and vertical/short takeoff and landing 
(VSTOL) aircraft; influence of Vietnam war on fighter development; 
OSD attempts to impose commonality; Air Force disagreement on 
weapon systems; Air Force preference for multi-purpose aircraft; 
cost of weapon systems; role of Assistant Secretary of Defense for 
Research and Development; C-5A research, development and 
procurement; Skybolt program; remotely piloted vehicle technology; 
helicopter development; need for basic research and development; 
1958 DoD reorganization; neglect of limited war technology; 
operations of Advanced Research Projects Agency, Air Force 
Systems Command and Director of Defense for Research and 
Engineering 

Biography: Office of Chief Scientist of the Air Force 

Interview Coverage: 1959-1973 
Interviewer: Jacob Neufeld and Dr. James C. Hansdorff 
Date of Interview: 27-29 November 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Permission required from interviewee for citations or 
Pages: 246 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 691 
Location: AFHRA 

Flynn, MG William S. 

Army Army - Tank-Automotive Command 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Army 

Biography: CG, TACOM 

Interview Coverage: 1987-1989 

Access Information: File open and available 

Location: USAMC 

Fogelman, GEN Ronald R. 

Air Force U.S. Transportation Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Discussion of career; references to C-17 program, acquisition 
problems, and service/public criticism of C-17 
Biography: Commander-in-Chief, USTRANSCOM and Commander, USAF 
AMC 

Interview Coverage: 1992-1994 

Interviewer: Dr. James K. Matthews and Dr. John W. Leland 
Date of Interview: March 1995 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 

Title: General Ronald R. Fogelman: Commander-in-Chief United States 


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Transportation Command and Commander, Air Mobility Command 
Pages: 82 

Location: TRANSCOM 

Forster, Robert H. 

Navy Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of career at NWC; work on special weapons projects, 

including swimmer weapons, covert devices, and operational support 
to the Navy, Marine Corps, other agencies; monologue included 
with transcript provides details on specific weapons and devices 
with accompanying illustrations 

Biography: Staff, NWC Bomb Directorate, Special Weapons Directorate 

Interview Coverage: 1960s-1980s 

Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig, III 

Date of Interview: 15-16 January 1987 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: access very limited (no further details) 

Pages: 219 
Location: NWC 

Foster, Dr. John S. 

OSD OSD - R&D 

Subject: Research and Development - OSD 

Biography: DDR&E, 1965-1973 

Interview Coverage: 1960s-1970s 
Interviewer: Walton S. Moody 
Date of Interview: 19 February 2003 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Pending 
Location: DAHP 

Foster, LTG William H. 

Army Army - Office of Assistant Secretary for RD&A 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Contents: Management of Office of Assistant Secretary of the Army for 
Research, Development and Acquisition; value of military 
experience in industry; total quality management; relations with 
Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD); disconnect between 
Comptroller and ASARDA; management of foreign military sales; 
requirements problem under Goldwater-Nichols 

Biography: Military Deputy, Office of the Assistant Secretary of the Army for 
Research, Development and Acquisition, Headquarters, Department 
of the Army, Washington DC 

Interviewer: Dwight Oland, Organizational History Division, U.S. Army Center 
Date of Interview: 17 October 1996 
Place of Interview: Crystal City, VA 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 


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Foster, LTG William H. 

Army Army - Office of Assistant Secretary for RD&A 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Contents: Perception of Military Deputy job; achievements as Military Deputy; 
budget reductions; buildup of acquisition corps; modernization 
versus force structure; post-Cold War weapons and strategy; 
strategic mobility; Force 21; battlelabs 

Biography: Military Deputy, Office of the Assistant Secretary of the Army for 
Research, Development and Acquisition, Headquarters, Department 
of the Army, Washington DC 

Interviewer: Dwight Oland, Organizational History Division, U.S. Army Center 
Date of Interview: 24 October 1997 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Foster, LTG William H. 

Army Army - Office of Assistant Secretary for RD&A 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Contents: Longbow; management of test and evaluation; relations with Army 
Materiel Command (AMC), Air Force and Navy; defense agencies; 
Congress; Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD); news media; 
Comptroller and funding 

Biography: Military Deputy, Office of the Assistant Secretary of the Army for 
Research, Development and Acquisition, Headquarters, Department 
of the Army, Washington DC 

Interviewer: Dwight Oland, Organizational History Division, U.S. Army Center 
Date of Interview: 19 September 1997 
Place of Interview: Rosslyn, VA 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Foster, LTG William H. 

Army Army - Office of Assistant Secretary for RD&A 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Contents: Relations with Chief of Staff of the Army (CSA), Army Staff, 
President Bill Clinton and Secretary of Defense William Perry; 
strategy and acquisition reform; financial management; role of 
program managers (PMs) and Program Executive Officers (PEOs). 
Biography: Military Deputy, Office of the Assistant Secretary of the Army for 
Research, Development and Acquisition, Headquarters, Department 
of the Army, Washington DC 

Interviewer: Dwight Oland, Organizational History Division, U.S. Army Center 
Date of Interview: 1 November 1996 
Place of Interview: Crystal City, VA 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Foster, LTG William H. 

Army Army - Office of Assistant Secretary for RD&A 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Contents: Handling transitions in Office of the Assistant Secretary of the Army 
for Research, Development (RD&A); management and 
organization of RD&A; NASA and Apollo and Space Shuttle; 

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Secretary of Defense William J. Perry and streamlining; 
requirements process 

Biography: Military Deputy, Office of the Assistant Secretary of the Army for 
Research, Development and Acquisition, Headquarters, Department 
of the Army, Washington DC 

Interviewer: Dwight Oland, Organizational History Division, U.S. Army Center 
Date of Interview: 1 March 1996 
Place of Interview: Crystal City, VA 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Foster, LTG William H. 

Army Army - Office of Assistant Secretary for RD& A 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Contents: Duties of position; relations with Secretary Stone; budget and 

Congress; modernization of Army systems; relations with Army 
Staff; replacement of LTG August M. Cianciolo as Military Deputy; 
relations with contractors; experience in Apollo program and 
OPTEC 

Biography: Military Deputy, Office of the Assistant Secretary of the Army for 
Research, Development and Acquisition, Headquarters, Department 
of the Army, Washington DC 

Interviewer: Dwight Oland, Organizational History Division, U.S. Army Center 
Date of Interview: 15 February 1996 
Place of Interview: Arlington, VA 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Fountain, Ralph 

Air Force Air Force ■ Logistics Command 

Subject: Procurement - Air Force 

Contents: Status of spares acquisition/production contracting technique for 
F-15 aircraft; current status of war readiness spares kits for F-15; 
problems with spares shortages and delivery delays; competition 
with automotive and toy markets 
Inter viewer: Dr. Richard W. Iobst 
Date of Interview: 28 February 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 21 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1243 
Location: AFHRA 

Fowler, VADM Earl 

Navy Naval Electronic Systems Command (NAVELEX) 

Subject: Acquisition - Navy 

Contents: Remarks about the effectiveness of NAVELEX in acquisition and 
systems integration; comments about steps taken to improve 
NAVELEX acquisition process; comments about NAVELEX 
effectiveness, reasons for 1981 reorganization that led to the 
establishment of SPAWAR; comments about warfare systems 
architecture and engineering (WSA&E) work within NAVELEX 


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Interview Coverage: 1970s-1980s 
Interviewer :Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 17 May 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 29 
Location: DTRC 

Franke, William B. 

Navy Navy - Secretary 

Subject: Secretary - Navy 

Biography: Asst. Secretary of the Navy, 1954-1957; Undersecretary of the 
Navy, 1957-1959; Secretary of the Navy, 1959-1961 

Interview Coverage: 1954-1961 
Date of Interview: 1972 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 51 

Finding Aids: OH 182 
Location: Eisenhower Library 

Franklin, John C. 

Defense Industry General Dynamics 
Subject: Defense Industry 

Biography: Vice President, General Dynamics Corp.; Vice President, 
Engineering, TWA 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 13 

Location: Hoover Library, Stanford University 

Freedman, Robert 

Navy Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Acquisition - Navy 

Contents: Interview part of A-7 support activity history project; discussion of 
the origins of the A-7 aircraft and avionics software; philosophy of 
management at NWC; relationships with contractors and project 
sponsors; development of support facilities; product fielding 
Interview Coverage: 1960s-1980s 
Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig, HI 
Date of Interview: 18 August 1987 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: access limited 
Pages: 67 
Location: NWC 


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Frick, Richard H. 

Air Force RAND 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Career information; satellite research; USAF research on missile 
dynamics; contract feasibility studies 
Biography: RAND physicist 

Interview Coverage: 1930s-1960s 

Interviewer: Joseph Tartarewicz and David Devorkin 

Date of Interview: 12 November 1987 

Length of Interview: 3 hours 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 43 

Location: NASM 

Fris, Edward S. 

Marine Corps 

Subject: Procurement - Marine Corps 

Contents: Lengthy discussion of the origins and development of the Marine 
Tactical Data System (MTDS); discussion of service career, 
including work as Marine Liaison Officer, Litton Industries 
(1960-1961) 

Biography: USMC Service, 1943-1975; Inspector General of the Marine 
Corps, 1969-1970 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1960s 
Interviewer: Mr. Benis M. Frank 
Date of Interview: 1980-1981 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 278 

Location: USMC Historical Center 

Frosch, Dr. Robert A. 

Navy Advanced Research Projects Agency 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Comparison of Navy and private labs in terms of flexibility, mission, 
size, and effect of bureaucracy; comments on the role of Navy 
Asst. Secretary for R&D in R&D process (management philosophy, 
control over channels of command, budget); budget problems; 
McNamara and Laird influences on Navy R&D 
Interview Coverage: 1960s-1970s 
Interviewer.Dr. Vincent Ponko 
Date of Interview: 1 January 1981 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 64 
Location: DTRC 


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Frosch, Dr. Robert A. 

Navy Advanced Research Projects Agency 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: career, work with ARPA; role as director of Hudson Laboratories; 

PERT, ocean floor modeling; work as Assistant Secretary of the 
Navy for Research and Development; Navy space projects; effects 
of the Mansfield Amendment on Navy R&D; NASA, Space 
Shuttle, Space Telescope work 
Interview Coverage: 1960s-1970s 
Interviewer: Dr. David H. DeVorkin 
Date of Interview: 10 July 1981 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 256 
Location: NASM 

Funk, MG Ben I. 

Air Force 

Subject: ICBM development 

Contents: Role of Ballistic Missile Center and San Bernardino Air Materiel 
Area; ICBM development; Gillette procedures; USAF weapon 
system development; Air Materiel Command/Air Research and 
Development Command role in ICBM program; authority of 
Ballistic Missile Division; non-profit corporations; "weapon system" 
concept; concurrency procurement; USAF-contractor relationships; 
changes in R&D and procurement program management; military 
use of space; USAF-NASA relationship; ARDC establishment; 
cost versus weapon selection; status of USAF research and 
development 

Interviewer: Arthur K. Marmor, Office of Air Force History 

Date of Interview: August 1966 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Official use only 

Pages: 23 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 791 
Location: AFHRA 

Furlong, LTG Raymond B. 

Air Force 

Subject: Procurement - Air Force 

Contents: F-14/F-15 flyoff; GEN David C. Jones and B-l selection 
Interviewer: Dr. Edgar F. Puryear, Jr. 

Date of Interview: 23 September 1981 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Permission required from interviewee to cite or quote 
Pages: 61 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1421 
Location: AFHRA 


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Galligan, LTG Walter T. 

Air Force 

Subject: Contracts - Air Force 

Contents: P-111 and F-5 contract controversies involving Boeing, Convair 
and Lockheed 

Biography: Legislative liaison, Air Staff, Washington DC; Director of 

Operations, U.S. Air Forces Europe; Commandant, Air Force 
Academy of Cadets; Commander, Air Force Security Service; 

Commander, U.S. Forces Japan 
Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 31 May 1983 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 283 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1555 
Location: AFHRA 

Gansler, Dr. Jacques S. 

OSD 

Subject: Acquisition Policy; Research and Development - OSD 

Contents: Problems in acquisition of major weapons systems at the beginning of the 
Reagan era; acquisition reform; the creation of the USD for acquisition and 
technology (an “acquisition czar”); Packard Commission; the role of industry; 
the role of commercial technology; reforming PPBS; Goldwater-Nichols; 
decentralization; Grace Commission; spare parts scandal; waste, fraud and 
abuse; the Reagan buildup; competition; technology; budget process; Strategic 
Defense Initiative 

Biography: Under Secretary of Defense (Acquisition, Technology and Logistics), 1997- 
2001; DAD (Material Acquisition); Assistant DDR&E (Electronics) 

Interview Coverage: 1970s-1980s 
Interviewer: Andrew J. Butrica 
Date of Interview: 12 September 2002 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Pending 
Pages: 40 
Location: DAHP 

Garritson, CAPT Grant Richard 

Navy David Taylor Research Center 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Career and work as Commander at David Taylor Research Center 
(DTRC); in-depth assessment of DTRC technical programs and 
departments; elimination of redundancies between Annapolis and 
Carderock activities; role of DTRC in the navy; proper organization 
of Navy R&D centers; comments about the role of naval officers in 
R&D centers as "providing fleet perspective to the centers and 
credibility of center output to the fleet" 

Biography: Commander, David Taylor Research Center 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 19 May 1987 


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Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 49 
Location: DTRC 

Gates, Thomas S. 

Navy Navy - Secretary 

Subject: Secretary - Navy 

Contents: One of a series of interviews on the concept and development of the 
Polaris program 

Biography: Under Secretary of the Navy, 1953-1957; Secretary of the Navy, 
1957-1959; Deputy Secretary of Defense, 1959; Secretary of 
Defense, 1959-1961 

Interview Coverage: 1960s 
Interviewer: unknown 
Date of Interview: September 1972 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open - interview conducted by U.S. Naval Institute Oral 
Pages: 71 

Location: NHC, NWCM, UNSA, USNI 

Gates, Thomas S., Jr. 

OSD OSD - Secretary of Defense 

Subject: Secretary - OSD 

Biography: CDR, USNR, 1942-1954; Undersecretary of the Navy, 

1953-1957; Secretary of the Navy, 1957-1959; Deputy SecDef, 
1959; Secretary of Defense, 1959-1961 

Interview Coverage: 1942-1961 
Date of Interview: 1967 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 99 

Finding Aids: OH 183 
Location: Eisenhower Library 

Gavin, James 
Army 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Contents: Army staff research and development; organization of joint chiefs of 
staff; army research and development; retirement and disagreements 
with Gen. Maxwell Taylor 

Biography: Chief of Research & Development, Department of the Army 

Interview Coverage: 1950s 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Retained by MHI; oral history included with paper 
Location: MHI 


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Gavin, James M. 

Army 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Biography: Chief of Research and Development, Department of the Army, 
1956-1957 

Interview Coverage: 1955-1957 
Date of Interview: 1967 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Written permission required to cite, quote, or reproduce 
Pages: 37 

Finding Aids: OH 183 
Location: Eisenhower Library 

Gentry, COL Ralph P. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Materiel Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Background of Air Materiel Command and ARDC reorganization 
of March 1961 

Interviewer: F.A. Ailing, Office of Air Force History 
Date of Interview: 19 October 1961 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 2 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 618 
Location: AFHRA 

Georgi, BG William F. 

Air Force 

Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: F-X (F-15) program and its conflicts with other programs; 

operational strengths and weaknesses of F-l 11, A-7, F-5 and 
Army helicopters; interservice rivalry with Army over F-X 
Biography: Instrumental in development of F-15 aircraft 
Interview Coverage: 

Interviewer: Jacob Neufeld, Office of Air Force History 
Date of Interview: 5 June 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Permission required from interviewee to cite or quote 
Pages: 28 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 964 
Location: AFHRA 

Getting, Dr. Ivan A. 

Air Force 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Biography: Assistant for Development Planning, Headquarters USAF, August 
1950 - August 1951. Vice President/President, Raytheon 
Corporation, August 1951 - August 1960. President, Aerospace 




Corporation, August 1960 - 1977 
Interviewer: Richard H. Kohn 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Editor: Jacob Neufeld 

Title: "Reflections on Research and Development in the United States Air 
Force" 

Place of Publication: Washington DC 

Publisher: Center for Air Force History 
Date of Publication: 1993 

Gibson, MG Emmitt E. 

Army Army - Aviation and Missile Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Contents: Accessible via 

http://www.redstone.armv.mil/historv/oral/gibson.html 
Biography: Chief, Requirements, Programs and Priorities Division, Office of the 
Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations and Plans, HQDA, 

Washington DC; Executive Officer to the Vice Chief of Staff, 
HQDA; Assistant Division Commander, 101st Airborne Division 
(Air Assault), Fort Campbell, KY; Director, Force Programs, 

Office of the Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations and Plans, 
HQDA; Commanding General, U.S. Army Aviation and Missile 
Command (AMCOM), Redstone Arsenal, AL, July 1997 - July 
1999 

Interview Coverage: 1997-1999 

Interviewer: Michael E. Baker, Claus R. Martel and Janie Powell, AMCOM 
Date of Interview: 30 June 1999 
Interview Medium: Tape - Video 
Location: USAMC 

Gideon, LTG Francis C. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Materiel Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Interim Logistics System (1961-62) and purchase of computers; 

Defense Supply Agency and McNamara; standardization of data 
systems in Air Force materiel areas; Advanced Logistics System 
(ALS) 

Biography: Director of Operations, Military Airlift Transportation Service; 

Director of Transportation, Air Materiel Command, July 1959; 
Commander, Warner Robins Air Materiel Area (WRAMA), 

August 1966; Commander, 13th Air Force, August 1968 
Interviewer:C PT Mark C. Cleary 
Date of Interview: 1 July 1982 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 159 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1338 
Location: AFHRA 


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Gillis, Jane L. 

Army Army - Aviation and Missile Command 

Subject: Aviation - Army 

Contents: Aviation Branch Director of Logistics 
Biography: Staff, Director of Logistics 
Interviewer ;Dr. James W. Williams 
Date of Interview: 19 December 1997 
Length of Interview: 60 min. tape+summary 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 

Access Information: Open; filed alpha in file cabinet, 870-5.4000 series 
Location: AABHO 

Gilpatric, Roswell L. 

Air Force Air Force - Under Secretary 

Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: Program to acquire heavy presses for aircraft manufacturing; conflict 
between Air Force and Navy on aircraft production; opposition to 
use of titanium in aircraft production; efficiency of aircraft industry in 
handling DoD contracts 

Biography: Under Secretary of Air Force 

Interviewer: E. Clifford Snyder, Air Materiel Command History Office 
Date of Interview: 8 February 1954 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 6 

Finding Aids: AFHRA715 
Location: AFHRA 

Gilpatric, Roswell L. 

OSD OSD - Deputy Secretary of Defense 

Subject: Acquisition 

Biography: Assistant Secretary of Air Force for Materiel, 1951; Under 

Secretary of Air Force, 1951-1953; Deputy Secretary of Defense, 
1961-1964 

Interviewer: Jerry N. Ness, Truman Library 
Date of Interview: 19 January 1972 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 48 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1284 
Location: AFHRA 

Glasser, LTG Otto J. 

Air Force Air Force - Minuteman Program Office 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Work on Mark 5 bomb; ICBM development; warhead 
development for Project Atlas; Minuteman research and 
development; origin of Ramo-Wooldridge; creation of Aerospace 
Corporation; origin of Advanced Research Projects Agency; 

SAMSO project; Midas project; reconnaissance satellite program; 
improvement in USAF management systems; AFLC and AFSC 


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reorganization; civilian technical workforce; Project Rand; Airborne 
Laser Project; B-l program; fly-before-buy concept 
Biography: Assistant Deputy Director, Ballistic Missiles; Director, Minuteman 
Program Office; Member, AFSC Task Group 
Interviewer: LTC John J. Allen 
Date of Interview: 5-6 January 1984 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Pending 
Pages: 188 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1566 
Location: AFHRA 

Gleiter, Werner 

Navy Navy - Naval Air Development Center 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Career in Navy and at Naval Air Development Center (NADC); 
description of Sonobouy research and development; SSQ-15 
Sonobouy program; cooperation between government and industry; 
Columbia University Sonobouy and Anti-Submarine Warfare 
(ASW) programs; rise of air ASW; NADC's relations with Bureau 
of Aeronautics (BUAER) 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1970s 
Interviewer: Tom Misa and Ed Todd 
Date of Interview: 8 July 1982 
Length of Interview: 1 tape 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Access Information: Open 
Location: NADC, DTRC 

Goldsworthy, LTG Harry E. 

Air Force Air Force - Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: B-36 aircraft; assignments as inspector general; political reasoning 
behind Atlas and Titan I programs; Secretary McNamara; Ernest 
Fitzgerald; Navy/Air Force rivalry; views on outsourcing 
Biography: Member, Weapons Systems Evaluation Group, Joint Chiefs of Staff, 
1949; Site Activation Task Force Commander, First Minuteman 
ICBM Wing, 1960; Director of Production and Programming, 
Deputy Chief of Staff for Systems and Logistics, HQ USAF, 1963; 
Commander, Aeronautical Systems Division, Air Force Systems 
Command, Wright-Patterson AFB, OH, 1967; Deputy Chief of 
Staff for Systems and Logistics, HQ USAF, 1969 
Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 11-12 September 1984 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 192 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1607 
Location: AFHRA 

Goodpaster, General Andrew J. 

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Army 

Biography: Staff Secretary to President Eisenhower; SACEUR 

Interviewers: Elliot V. Converse, III: Walter S. Poole 
Date of Interview: 8 August 2001 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Pending 
Location: DAHP 

Gossick, MG Lee V. 

Air Force Air Force - Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: USAF research and development; ARDC European Office, late 

1950s; relationship of Systems Program Director and Aeronautical 
Systems Division; effects of Vietnam War on AFSC programs; 
AFSC support for Vietnam War; relationship between Air Force 
Systems Command and Deputy Secretary of Defense David 
Packard; definition of "prototype;” concurrent acquisition 
Biography: Commander, Arnold Engineering Development Center, 1964; 

Program Director, F-l 11 aircraft development; Commander, 
Aeronautical Systems Division (ASD), 1969; Deputy Chief of 
Systems, Air Force Systems Command, 1970 
Interviewer: Walter L. Kraus 
Date of Interview: 11 January 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 26 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 730 
Location: AFHRA 


Graham, Col. James 

Air Force Strategic Defense Initiative Organization 

Subject: Ballistic Missile Defense 

Interviewer: Lt. Col.. Donald R. Baucom, SDIO Historian 

Date of Interview: 2 August 1988 

Place of Interview: The Pentagon, Washington DC 

Location: BMDO History Office 

Gralla, VADM Arthur R. 

Navy Naval Ordnance Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of pre-1946 work in R&D, including torpedo research; 
work in Bureau of Ordnance (BUORD) and Bureau of Weapons 
(BUWEPS); discussion of tenure as first head of Naval Ordnance 
Systems Command; remarks about his opposition to DNL/DLP, 
need for military control of labs; Gralla comments on placing labs 
under control of DNL (would prefer if labs were under the Systems 
Commands); remarks about limiting the power of the ASN (R&D) 
and the CNM, making the labs compete with private industry; 
description of the R&D funding process, problems of the material 
Navy 


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Biography: Head, Naval Ordnance Systems Command 
Interview Coverage: 1940s-1970s 
Interviewer: Vincent Ponko, Jr. 

Date of Interview: 4 November 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 31 
Location: DTRC 

Gray, Gordon 

Army Army - Secretary 

Subject: Secretary - Army 

Biography: Secretary of the Army, 1949-1950 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Location: Truman Library 

Gray, MG Robert E. 

Army Army - Signal Command 

Subject: Communications - Army 

Contents: Exit interview. 

Biography: Deputy Director for Plans, Operations and Systems, Office of the 
Secretary of the Army, Washington DC, during DESERT 
SHIELD/DESERT STORM; Chief of Signal 

Interview Coverage: 1991-1994 
Date of Interview: 11 July 1994 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Location: USASC-FG 

Gray, MG Robert E. 

Army Army - Signal Command 

Subject: Communications - Army 

Contents: State of Signal Corps after Vietnam (part of SOMA study). 
Biography: Deputy Director for Plans, Operations and Systems, Office of the 
Secretary of the Army, Washington DC, during DESERT 
SHIELD/DESERT STORM; Chief of Signal 

Interview Coverage: 1975-1994 
Interviewer: Carol E. Stokes 
Date of Interview: 20 March 1994 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Location: USASC-FG 

Gray, MG Robert E. 

Army Army - Office of Secretary of the Army 

Subject: Communications - Army 

Contents: Signal Corps in DESERT SHIELD/DESERT STORM. 
Biography: Deputy Director for Plans, Operations and Systems, Office of the 
Secretary of the Army, Washington DC, during DESERT 
SHIELD/DESERT STORM 


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Interview Coverage: 1990-1991 
Date of Interview: 16 June 1992 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Location: USASC-FG 

Gray, MG Robert E. 

Army Army - Office of Secretary of the Army 

Subject: Communications - Army 

Biography: Deputy Director for Plans, Operations and Systems, Office of the 
Secretary of the Army, Washington DC, during DESERT 
SHIELD/DESERT STORM 

Interview Coverage: 1990-1991 
Date of Interview: 5 September 1992 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Location: USASC-FG 

Grodsky, James 

OSD OSD - Secretary of Defense 

Subject: Acquisition - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of OSD systems acquisition in the 1960s; use of 

Technical Development Papers; genesis of Decision Coordinating 
Papers; creation of the Defense Systems Acquisition Review 
Council; creation of the Concept Formulation. Contract Definition 
process; need for honest presentation of system and contracting 
options to the Secretary of Defense (SECDEF) 

Biography: Staff, Office of the Director of Defense Research and Engineering 

Interview Coverage: 1960s 

Interviewer: Booz, Allen and Hamilton 

Date of Interview: 22 January 1975 

Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 

Access Information: Open 

Location: DTRC 

Groves, Leslie 

Army Army - Manhattan Engineer District/Project 

Subject: Atomic Energy 

Biography: Chief, Manhattan Engineer District, 1942-1947 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: portions closed until 2000 
Pages: 41 

Location: Hoover Library 

Gust, Major General David R. 

Army 

Subject: Project Management - Army 

Interviewers: Andrew J. Butrica; Philip L. Shiman 
Date of Interview: 14 August 2001 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Pending 
Location: DAHP 


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Guthrie, GEN John R. 

Army Army - Materiel Command 

Subject: Program Management - Army 

Contents: AMC command management; AMARC; AMARC revisited; 

POMCUS project management 
Interviewer: Marken Birdsell 
Date of Interview: April 1985 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Incomplete file - requires interviewee's edit; availability to 
Pages: 73 

Location: USAAMC 

Haff, CAPT William B. 

Navy Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of changes in the character of air-to-air warfare; new 
weapons and electronic warfare; future of NWC; place of Navy 
labs versus contractor research in naval R&D; relations with 
contractors and people in Washington DC; comments on 
military-civilian relationships at NWC and lab responses to fleet 
needs; personal philosophy on RDT&E 
Interview Coverage: 1970s 
Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig, III 
Date of Interview: 24 June 1981 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 33 
Location: DTRC 

Hafstad, Dr. Lawrence R. 

Defense Contractor General Motors Corporation 
Subject: Atomic Energy 

Contents: Electronics; proximity fuse; employment with Bell Laboratories; 
ionosphere experiments; high-voltage acceleration; sonic and 
seismic techniques; employment with General Motors Corporation; 
Committee for Undersea Warfare; storage of atomic weapons; 
internal struggle to use atomic energy for military purposes 
Interviewer: Hugh N. Ahmann 
Date of Interview: 21 March 1985 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 37 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1638 
Location: AFHRA 

Hails LTG Robert E. 

Air Force Air Force - Inspector General 

Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: Mass production benefits for aircraft; HQ USAF Inspector 

General's office; antiquated tooling; dormant aircraft production 
capability; prototype training with industries; management inspection 


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philosophy; procurement of aircraft for French Air Force; F-104 
program management; struggle between Air Materiel Command and 
Air Research and Development Command; defense economics in 
nuclear age; Bureau of Budget; military force constitution decisions; 
F-104 and F-105 aircraft; F-104 accident rate; weapon system life 
cycle; differences in Eisenhower and Kennedy administrations; 
Secretary of Defense McNamara; weapon system management; 
advanced manned strategic aircraft; A-7 program; A-10 aircraft; 
depot maintenance industrial responsibilities; depot plant 
modernization program; Air Logistics Division, AFSC; fraud 
C-141 Stretch program; C-5 aircraft; drones and remotely piloted 
vehicles (RPVs); AW ACS; precision emitter location system; 

Project MAX; defense contractor fund 
Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 2-3 August 1984 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 228 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1603 
Location: AFHRA 

Hall, BG David M. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Causes and results of congressional dismantling of Advanced 

Logistics System (ALS); need for advanced computer technology; 
-300 series regulations that did not provide for large-scale systems 
such as Advanced Logistics System; Project MAX, maintenance 
system confused by Congress for Advanced Logistics System; 
duties and responsibilities of Air Force Logistics Command 
Comptroller; foreign military sales; Logistics Command outlays and 
funding sources; complexity of logistics mission and its financial and 
technological implications 

Biography: Comptroller, Air Force Logistics Command 

Interviewer: Robert J. Smith 

Date of Interview: 15 June 1979, 2 May 1983 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Pages: 85 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1545 
Location: AFHRA 

Hall, James 

Navy Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of A-7 support activity at NWC; part of archival project 
to support the document, "What Have You Done for the Fleet 
Today? A Brief History of the A-7E Weapon System Support 
Activity"; discussion of the origins of the A-7 aircraft software and 
avionics support program at China Lake; major accomplishment of 
the program; philosophy of the program managers; relationships 
_ with contractors and sponsors; growth of digital deve lopment of 

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support facilities; product fielding - group interview with John Hoyen 
Interview Coverage: 1970s-1980s 
Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig, ID 
Date of Interview: December 1987 
Interview Medium: transcript and video 
Access Information: access limited 
Pages: 31 
Location: DTRC 

Hall, MG Titus G. 

Air Force Air Force - Aeronautical Systems Division 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: B-47 aircraft; EC-47 aircraft; B-l aircraft. 

Biography: Communications Intelligence Operations Officer, U.S. Air Force 
Security Service, Japan; Commander, Kodiak Satellite Tracking 
Station, Alaska; Chief Avionics Engineer, B-l strategic bomber 
program, Aeronautical Systems Division, Wright-Patterson AFB, 

OH, March 1972; Systems Program Director, Avionics Program 
Office, Aeronautical Systems Division; Assistant Deputy for 
Reconnaissance/Strike/Electronic Warfare Program Office, 
Aeronautical Systems Division 
Interviewer: 1LT Wayne D. Perry 
Date of Interview: 15 November 1987 
Length of Interview: 4:30 hours 
Interview Medium: Tape-Audio 
Access Information: Pending 
Finding Aids: AFHRA 1775 
Location: AFHRA 

Hamre, John J. 

OSD OSD - Deputy Secretary of Defense (Comptroller) 

Subject: OSD - Comptroller 

Biography: Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller), October 1993 - July 
1997. Deputy Secretary of Defense, July 1991 - March 2000. 
Interviewer: G reg Schneider 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Title: "A Conversation with John J. Hamre" 

Pages: El2 

Publisher: Washington Post 

Date of Publication: 28 February 2000 

Harbold, MG Norris B. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Materiel Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Biography: Inspector General, Air Materiel Command; Commander, Ogden 
Air Materiel Area 
Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 9-10 July 1987 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Pages: 90 _______ 

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Finding Aids: AFHRA 1760 
Location: AFHRA 


Hardin, LTG Ernest C., Jr. 

Air Force 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Buildup of Army aviation; need for SDI; new approach to 

inspection; industrial job-related accidents; Energy Research and 
Development Administration 

Biography: Military assistant to McNamara; Commander, 839th Air Division; 
Director of Operations, PACAF; Deputy Chief of Staff for 
Operations, Seventh Air Force 
Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 17 April 1985 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 127 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1650 
Location: AFHRA 

Hardy, LTG John S. 

Air Force Industrial College of the Armed Forces 

Subject: Defense Industry 

Contents: B-47 aircraft; Symington investigation of Defense Department; Air 
Force organization; Mace missiles; Air Force-Navy relations; GEN 
Ira C. Eaker 

Biography: Commandant, Industrial College of the Armed Forces 

Interviewer: CPT Mark C. Cleary 

Date of Interview: 17-18 October 1983 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Pages: 201 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1544 
Location: AFHRA 

Hargis, Calvin B., Jr. 

Air Force Air Force - Secretary 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: F-15 program; Air Force preference for air-superiority instead of 
multi-role aircraft; selection of McDonnell Douglas as prime 
contractor for F-15; OSD attempts at commonality between F-14 
and F-15 

Biography: Deputy for Development, Office of Secretary of the Air Force, 
Research and Development 

Interview Coverage: 1966-1973 

Interviewer: Jacob Neufeld, Office of Air Force History 

Date of Interview: 21 March 1973 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Pages: 29 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 851 
Location: AFHRA 


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Harmeyer, MG George H. 

Army Army - Training and Doctrine Command 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Army 

Contents: Army transformation; TRADOC career 
Biography: Chief of Armor, 1996-1999 

Interview Coverage: 1996-1999 
Date of Interview: 1999 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: End of tour interview; interviewee served as Chief of 
Location: Army Armor Center - Ft. Knox 

Harris, COL Fred F. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Foreign Military Sales 

Contents: Foreign military sales of F-15 aircraft to Saudi Arabia; Peace Sun 
technical support program; availability of spares and support 
equipment for Peace Sun 
Interviewer: Dr. Richard W. Iobst 
Date of Interview: 29 September 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 14 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1252 
Location: AFHRA 

Harris, LTG Bruce R. 

Army Army - Signal Command 

Subject: Program Management - Army 

Contents: State of Signal Corps after Vietnam War (part of SOMA study); 

also on audio cassette 
Interview Coverage: 1975-1994 
Interviewer: Carol E. Stokes 
Date of Interview: 28 February 1994 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Location: USASC-FG 

Harrison, MG Jerry C. 

Army Army - Laboratory Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Biography: Commander, LABCOM, 1989-1991 

Interview Co verage: 1989-1991 
Date of Interview: May 1992 

Access Information: File open to bona fide researchers 
Location: USAMC 

Hartinger, GEN James V. 

Air Force North American Aerospace Defense Command 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: Assignment as F-l 11 Test Director. 

Biography: Action officer, Pentagon; student, Industrial College of Armed 


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Forces; squadron commander, Vietnam; RTU; F-l 11 Test 
Director, Nellis AFB, NV; wing commander; NORAD Plans; 
CINCNORAD 

Interviewer: CYT Barry J. Anderson 
Date of Interview: 5-6 September 1985 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 214 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1673 
Location: AFHRA 

Hartmann, Dr. Gregory 

Navy Naval Ordnance Lab - White Oak 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Broad discussion of career and R&D projects at Naval Ordnance 
Laboratory (NOL); discussion of R&D in Bureau of Ordnance 
(BUORD); Atomic Energy Commission work at NOL; laboratory 
management remarks; bureaus attempts to create a lab management 
office; laboratory-SYSCOM dialogues; Research and 
Development Board (RDB); comments about the office of the 
Director of Defense Engineering and Research (DDR&E); examples 
of aborted R&D projects 

Biography: Technical Director, Naval Ordnance Laboratory (NOL) White 
Oak, 1956-1973 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1970s 

Interviewer: Susan Frutkin and CAPT Robert L. Hansen 

Date of Interview: 15 October 1974 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 149 

Location: NHC; DTRC 

Hartmann, Dr. Gregory 

Navy Naval Ordnance Lab - White Oak 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Early work in navy explosives and torpedo R&D; detailed history of 
torpedo improvements during WWII, including creation of first 
homing torpedo, Mk25; introduction of feasibility studies; effects of 
the McNamara reforms and the early development of the Mk48; 
comments about bureaucratic disputes and difficulties in Navy; 
competition among Navy R&D centers; difficulties inherent in "fixed 
cost" contracting 

Biography: Technical Director, Naval Ordnance Laboratory (NOL) White 
Oak, 1956-1973 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1970s 
Interviewer. Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 27 July 1989 
Length of Interview: 2 tapes 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
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Location: DTRC 


Hattabaugh, William R. 

Navy Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Acquisition - Navy 

Contents: Reflections on Naval Weapons Center (NWC) associations; 

relations between NWC and contractors; changes in the center's 
role within the Navy; remarks about the interaction of R&D and 
T&E sides of the lab, support of the fleet; discussion of Dr. William 
B. McLean 

Biography: Staff, Naval Weapons Center (NWC) 

Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig, III and Joseph M. Burge 
Date of Interview: 9 July 1981 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 31 

Location: NWC; DTRC; NHC 

Hays, Burrell W. 

Navy Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of career at the Naval Weapons Center (NWC), with 
attention to the lessons learned in the Engineering Department; 
remarks about production problems with the Sparrow missile that 
led to the program’s assignment to NWC for engineering fixes; the 
Advanced Common Intercept Missile Demonstration (ACIMD); 
political problems with the High-Speed Antiradiation Missile 
(HARM); headquarters influence in the management of NWC; 
remarks about the Freeman era (RADM Rowland G. Freeman, III) 
Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig, III 
Date of Interview: 21 April 1986; 4 December 1986 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: access limited 
Pages: 55 
Location: NWC 

Hayward, ADM John T. 

Navy Naval Ordnance Test Station 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of the role of rockets in the Pacific during WWII; 

intermixing of ordnance and rocket research; assignment to the 
Naval Ordnance Test Station (NOTS); broad commentary about 
the post-war research programs at NOTS 

Interview Coverage: 1940s 

Interviewer: J.D. Gerrard-Gough 

Date of Interview: 26 July 1973; 15 November 1973 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 65 

Location: NWC; DTRC ________ 

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Hayward, ADM John T. 

Navy Office of Naval Research 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of the establishment of the Assistant Chief of Naval 
Operations (ACNO) for (R&D); ACNO's relationships with the 
Navy bureaus; budget requirements for R&D in the 1950s; methods 
used by the R&D Board to revise programs; comments about the 
Libby Board study and the proposed merger of the Bureau of 
Ordnance (BUORD) and the Bureau of Aeronautics (BUAER); 
description of ACNO’s effect on Navy programs; impact of the 
Director of Defense Research and Engineering (DDR&E); the role 
of the Deputy Chief of Naval Operations (DCNO) as 
appropriations officer; Secretary of Defense (SECDEF) 

McNamara's feelings on Navy R&D 
Interview Coverage: 1940s-1960s 
Interviewer: CAPT Robert L. Hansen and Dr. Peter Bruton 
Date of Interview: 9 October 1974 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 45 

Location: NWC; DTRC 

Hayward, ADM John T. 

Navy 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of career in strategic weapons establishment, including 
tour at Naval Ordnance Test Station (NOTS) and China Lake 
nuclear weapons support programs; discussion of the unique role of 
the Experimental Office at NOTS/NWC; military-civilian 
relationships; NOTS T&E establishment; changes in the way Navy 
RDT&E is done; included with interview is transcript of ADM 
Hayward's address to the Indian Wells Navy League (15 October 
1987) on the subject of the evolution of U.S. military R&D over the 
past 40 years, future of DoD R&D 
Interview Coverage: 1940s-1980s 
Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig, III 
Date of Interview: 14-15 October 1987 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: access limited - S-167 only 
Pages: 41 
Location: NWC 

Hearn, Henry D. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Contracts - Air Force 

Contents: C-141B Stretch Modification Program; rationale for stretch 

modification and alternatives; search for and competitive analysis of 
stretch contractor; "try before buy" procurement concept; Defense 
Systems Acquisition Review Council (DSARC) practices; 


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difficulties encountered in stretch modification contract; modification 
proposal analysis; program management directives; Advanced 
Procurement Plan; independent cost analysis 
Biography: Contracting Officer, C-141B Stretch Modification Program 
Interview Coverage: 1960-1981 

Interviewer: Benjamin Vincent, Warner Robins Air Logistics History Office 
Date of Interview: 20 May 1981 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 26 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1300 
Location: AFHRA 

Heinemann, Edward H. 

Air Force Northrup Grumman 

Subject: Defense Industry 

Contents: Military-industrial relationship since World War H 
Interviewer: Daniel R. Mortensen, Office of Air Force History 
Date of Interview: 5 April 1984 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 54 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1765 
Location: AFHRA 

Henderson, Lawrence J. 

Air Force RAND 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: RAND contracts with USAF; Origins of ANSER 

Biography: RAND 

Interview Coverage: 1930s-1960s 

Interviewer: Martin Collins and Joseph Tartarewicz 

Date of Interview: 28 August 1989; 30 August 1989 

Length of Interview: 5 hours 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: permission required to quote, cite, or reproduce 
Pages: 72 
Location: NASM 

Henderson, MG Frank F. 

Army Army - Materiel Command 

Subject: Logistics - Army 

Biography: DCS Logistics 
Date of Interview: 21 March 1995 

Access Information: review not complete; file availability to be determined 
Location: USAMC 

Hendricks, MG Gerald K. 

Air Force Air Force - Space and Missile Systems 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: B-47 Operational Engineering Section, MacDill AFB; Atomic 

Energy Commission; Nuclear Rocket Program; SNAP-10 _ 

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Propulsion Lab; Project Forecast; Black Hawk helicopter; Baseline 
Management Program; SAMSO; creation of Space and Missile 
Technology Center; MX development; Space and Missile Test 
Organization 

Biography: B-47 Operational Engineering Section, MacDill AFB; Atomic 

Energy Commission; Assistant for Technology, Rocket Propulsion 
Lab 

Interviewer: Roger S. Alexander 
Date of Interview: 10-12 December 1985 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 363 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1685 
Location: AFHRA 

Henifin, CAPT Edward E. 

Navy Naval Research Laboratory 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Reflections on R&D management in the Navy and at the Naval 
Research Laboratory (NRL); comments about management 
changes and what led to them 
Interview Coverage: 1960s-1970s 
Interview er:V> r. David K. Allison 
Date of Interview: 18 January 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 5 
Location: NRL 

Henry, Maj. General Charles R. 

OSD, Army DLA, DCMC 

Subject: Contracting and Contract Management - OSD 

Contents: Defense Logistics Agency, Army logistics and procurement; career 

development and promotion for acquisitions officers; Lt. General Donald M. 
Babers; acquisition executives; Defense Contract Management 
Command/Agency; competition advocacy; Lt. General Vincent M. Russo; Lt. 
General Charles P. McCausland; DCAS; contract award process; Donald J. 
Atwood; inter-service and inter-agency contracting; streamlining DLA; 
managing reductions in budgets and forces; Bell-Ringer; C-17 
Interview Coverage: 1960s-2000s 
Interviewer: Carolyn C. Hofig 
Date of Interview: 14 July 2004 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper/Electronic 
Access Information: Pending 
Pages: 62 
Location: DAHP 


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Heselton, Leslie 

Navy Naval Ocean Systems Command 

Subject: Acquisition - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of the Blue Ribbon (Fitzhugh) Report on DoD 

Organization, 1970; comments about laboratory productivity, 
procurement, and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency 
(DARPA) 

Interviewer: Dr. Mark Jacobsen 
Date of Interview: 21 September 1987 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 18 
Location: NOSC 

Highberg, Dr. Ivar 

Navy Naval Ordnance Test Station 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of work at the Naval Ordnance Test Station (NOTS) in 
the late 1940s; changes in the use of NOTS facilities; early rocket 
and missile work at the lab; use of computer simulation, digital fuse 
control work on missiles and guns; political ramifications for NOTS 
of the 1966 division of the Bureau of Weapons (BUWEPS) into 
NAVORDSYSCOM and NAVSHIPSYSCOM 
Interview Coverage: 1940s-1960s 
Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig, m 
Date of Interview: 1 April 1981 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 26 

Location: NHC; DTRC; NWC 

Hill, Dr. Lemmuel L. 

Navy Naval Surface Warfare Center 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of background and selection as Technical Director of 
NSWC; goals of NSWC, comments about the control that 
sponsors try to exercise over R&D centers; discussion of 
philosophy behind Warfare Systems Architecture and Engineering 
(WSA&E), role of R&D centers and the systems commands 
(SYSCOMs); funding of R&D centers; comments about the proper 
mix of tech-base research, engineering development, and fleet 
support for R&D centers to undertake; involvement of NSWC in 
the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI) 

Biography: Technical Director of the Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC) 

Interview Coverage: 1970s-1980s 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 10 February 1989 


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Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 39 
Location: DTRC 

Hill, GEN James A. 

Air Force 

Subject: Contracts - Air Force 

Contents: Relationship between Secretary of Defense McNamara and 
military over cost accounting; Lockheed C-5 aircraft contract 
controversy; lack of military compromise on wing, fuel or payload 
for C-5 

Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 24-25 March 1982 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 237 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1309 
Location: AFHRA 

Hill, GEN James E. 

Air Force 

Subject: Operations and Maintenance - Air Force 

Contents: B-58 shortcomings; maintenance contracts for aircraft and warning 
sites; logistical support problems 

Biography: Wing Commander, Clark AB, Philippines; Deputy Assistant to 
Secretary of Defense (Atomic Energy); Commander, Third Air 
Force; Commander, Alaska Command; Commander, Eighth Air 
Force 

Interviewer ;Dr. James Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 4 May 1982 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 142 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1324 
Location: AFHRA 

Hillyer, Robert 

Navy Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of NOTS-Naval Ordnance Lab-Corona merger; fuze 
department at NWC; gains and losses of the 1967 lab 
consolidation; remarks about the role of the Technical Director at 
NWC, appropriate and inappropriate areas of research for the lab; 
military-civilian relationships in the navy; comments on the 
contributions of the NWC to the navy 

Biography: Technical Director, Naval Weapons Center, 1977-1982; Director 
of Navy Laboratories, 1982-1983; Technical Director of the Naval 
Ocean Systems Center, 1983-1990 

Interview Coverage: 1960s-1982 
Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig, ID 


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Date of Interview: 14 May 1982; 27 May 1982 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 77 

Location: NWC; DTRC; NHC 

Hillyer, Robert 

Navy Navy - Navy Laboratories 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of work as Director of Navy Laboratories (1982-1983); 

the establishment of Naval Material Command and its effect on the 
Navy's R&D community; discussion of funding issues, competition 
among laboratories for funds from Systems Commands 
(SYSCOMs); remarks about the quality of personnel at the Navy 
laboratories, potential for R&D community in the new, 
post-NAVMAT research structure 

Biography: Technical Director, Naval Weapons Center, 1977-1982; Director 
of Navy Laboratories, 1982-1983; Technical Director of the Naval 
Ocean Systems Center, 1983-1990 

Interview Coverage: 1982-1983 
Interviewer:Dx. David K. Allison 
Date of Interview: 13 August 1985 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 21 
Location: DTRC 

Hillyer, Robert 

Navy Navy - Navy Laboratories 

Subject: Acquisition - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of work as Director of Navy Laboratories (1982-1983), 
dis-establishment of Naval Material Command (NAVMAT) and 
the creation of Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command 
(SPAWAR); discussion of events that lad to the administrative 
reorganization that placed R&D centers under the Chief of Naval 
Research and (later) under the control of SPAWAR; weakening of 
SPAWAR vis-^-vis Systems Commands (SYSCOMs); role of 
R&D centers with regard to WSA&E functions; discussion of 
SPAWAR funding problems 

Biography: Technical Director, Naval Weapons Center, 1977-1982; Director 
of Navy Laboratories, 1982-1983; Technical Director of the Naval 
Ocean Systems Center, 1983-1990 

Interview Coverage: 1982-1983 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 20 February 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 20 
Location: DTRC 


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Himes, Allen W. 

Navy Navy - Navy Laboratories 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of the consolidation of the labs into the eight Naval 
Material Command (NAVMAT) R&D centers; headquarters 
administration of the labs; linkage of the labs to the acquisition 
process; organizational evolution of the Office of the Director of 
Navy Laboratories (DNL) from 1965-1983; comments on 
leadership styles of the six DNLs 

Biography: Deputy Assistant to the Director of Navy Laboratories 

Interview Coverage: 1965-1983 
Interviewer: Dr. David K. Allison 
Date of Interview: 10 August 1983 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 36 
Location: DTRC 

Himes, Allen W. 

Navy Navy - Navy Laboratories 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Remarks about the Bell Report, Project 97, and the Sherwin Plan; 
comments on the establishment of the Office of the Director of 
Naval Laboratories (DNL); comments about the first DNL - Dr. 

Gerald Johnson - and the Systems Commands (SYSCOMs) 
attitude toward DNL; discussion of Navy R&D cutbacks in the 
early 1970s; relations with Dr. Robert A. Frosch, former Assistant 
Secretary of the Navy (ASN) for R&D; personnel problems in the 
DNL office 

Biography: Deputy Assistant to the Director of Navy Laboratories 

Interview Coverage: 1960s-1970s 
Interviewer: Albert B. Christman 
Date of Interview: 14 April 1978 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 25 
Location: DTRC 

Hirsch, Brig. General Edward 
OSD, Army DSMC 

Subject: Defense Acquisition Workforce - Education 

Contents: Acquisition versus procurement; DSMC; DSMC charter; DAU; details of 
acquisition workforce training and education; curricula; senior/executive 
courses (development and contemporary content); case-studies in acquisition 
education (examples and explanation); training senior managers to manage the 
inevitable frictions of defense program development. 

Interview Coverage: 1940s - 2004 
Interviewer: Carolyn C. Hofig 
Date of Interview: 28 July 2004 _ 

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Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper/Electronic 
Access Information: Pending 
Pages: 29 
Location: DAHP 

Hitch, Charles 

Air Force RAND 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: systems analysis; relations with USAF and CIA clients 
Biography: RAND economist 

Interview Coverage: 1930s-1960s 

Interviewer: Martin Collins and Joseph Tartarewicz 

Date of Interview: 9 February 1988 

Length of Interview: 1.1 hours 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 22 

Location: NASM 


Hogg, ADM James 

Navy Navy - Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of the dis-establishment of NAVMAT and establishment 
of SPAWAR; comments about the development of top-level 
warfare requirements in SPAWAR; deliberation on the composition 
of SPAWAR into three subgroups; views on the relationship 
between SPAWAR and the Office of the Chief of Naval 
Operations' Director of Naval Warfare, OP-095; relations between 
SPAWAR and the naval Systems Commands (SYSCOMs); role of 
research and development center under SPAWAR 
Interview Coverage: 1970s-1980s 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 22 February 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 12 
Location: DTRC 

Hollings, Anthony J. 

Navy Naval Research Laboratory (NRL) 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of career in the Royal Navy; observations about the 
research programs at the Naval Research Lab (NRL); the 
difference between American and British research methods; 
remarks about the management of NRL; comments about NRL, 


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Office of Naval Research (ONR) and NIF funding; description of 
major organizational and management changes at NRL between 
1963 and 1980. This interview is supplemented by a collection of 
papers 

Interview Coverage: 1963-1980 

Interviewer: Dr. David K. Allison 

Date of Interview: 4 January 1980; 8 January 1980 

Length of Interview: 5 tapes 

Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 

Access Information: Open 

Location: NRL 

Hollingsworth, James E. 

Hoover Commission I (1947-1949) 

Subject: Hoover Commission I (1947-49) 

Biography: Member, Hoover Commission, 1949 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 28 

Location: Hoover Library 


Hollister, Solomon C. 

Subject: Hoover Commission II (1953-55) 

Biography: Member, Hoover Commission U, 1953-1955 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 30 

Location: Hoover Library 

Holloway, GEN Bruce K. 

Air Force Air Force - STRICOM 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Skunk Works; Lincoln Laboratory; Lincoln Air Defense System 
versus Michigan Air Defense System; F-104 design; German 
problems with the F-104; F-l 11 and Secretary of Defense 
McNamara; Mace missile; improved Minuteman accuracy 
Biography: Project Officer, Lincoln Laboratory; USAF Director of 
Requirements, 1959-1961; Chairman, Weapons Board; 
Commander, USAFE; CINCSAC 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1972 
Interviewer: LTC Vaughn H. Gallacher 
Date of Interview: 16-18 August 1977 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 427 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 955 
Location: AFHRA 


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Holmes, MG Arthur, Jr. 

Army Army - Tank-Automotive Command 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Army 

Biography: CG, TACOM 

Date of Interview: 1987 

Location: USAMC 

Hooper, ADM Edwin B. 

Navy Office of Naval Research 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Interview includes ADM Hooper's opinions on management of 

Navy R&D since the end of World War 13; discussion of Bureau of 
Ordnance management, inter-bureau relationships, future of Navy 
R&D; remarks about James Forrestal and Robert McNamara 
Interview Coverage: 1940s-1070s 

Interviewer: C APT Robert L. Hansen, Dr. Peter Bruton, and Susan Frutkin 

Date of Interview: 1974 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 135 

Location: NHC; DTRC 

Horner, Mansfield H. 

Air Force United Aircraft 

Subject: Defense Industry 

Contents: Jet engine development; helicopter development 
Biography: President, United Aircraft 

Interviewer: Kenneth Leish, Columbia University Aviation Project 
Date of Interview: October 1960 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Permission to cite or quote required from Columbia 
Pages: 28 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 146.34-51 
Location: AFHRA 

Howard, Jim 

Navy Naval Air Development Center 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of the use of aircraft in anti-submarine warfare; systems 
approach to sonobouy development from 1952 to the present; 
comments about the design of the P-3C aircraft, including the 
incorporation of computers and TACO, LOFAR, and DIFAR; 
comments about the present goals of the Naval Air Development 
Center (NADC), including the Advanced Signal Processor, Very 
High Speed Integrated Circuitry, changes in sonobouy research, and 
the Julie sonobouy 
Interview Coverage: 1950s-1970s 
Interviewer :Tom Misa and Ed Todd 
Date of Interview: 9 June 1982 


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Length of Interview: 1 tape 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Access Information: Open 
Location: NADC; DTRC 

Howze, GEN Hamilton H. 

Army Army - Aviation and Missile Command 

Subject: Aviation - Army 

Contents: Howze Board; Army aviation 

Biography: Chairman, Tactical Mobility Requirements Board of 1961 (Howze 
Board) 

Interviewer: Dr. Herbert LePore 
Date of Interview: 5 December 1986 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open; filed alpha in file cabinet, 870-5.4000 series 
Pages: 5 

Location: AABHO 

Howze, GEN Hamilton H. 

Army Army - Aviation and Missile Command 

Subject: Aviation - Army 

Contents: Army aviation 

Biography: Chairman, Tactical Mobility Requirements Board of 1961 (Howze 
Board) 

Interviewer :Dr. Burton Wright III 
Date of Interview: 23 May 1991 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open; filed alpha in file cabinet, 870-5.4000 series 
Pages: 11 
Location: AABHO 

Hubbard, William 

Navy Navy Ordnance Laboratory 

Subject: Research and Development 

Contents: Discussion of involvement with the Vietnam Laboratory Assistance 
Program (VLAP), 1966-1969; description of the features of VLAP 
in common with the Operations Evaluation Group during WWII; 
sources of VLAP funding and nature of research and tasking; 
interservice cooperation by VLAP and resistance to VLAP by 
Navy Systems Commands (SYSCOMs); general remarks about the 
role of science advisors to major field commanders, operations 
analysis and managing R&D efforts in a tactically effective manner 
Interview Coverage: 1960s-1970s 
Interviewer: Glenn E. Bugos 
Date of Interview: 9 August 1985 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 30 
Location: DTRC 


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Hudnell, MG W.T. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Logistics in 1956; changing concept for logistics control; program 
for electronics requisitioning and rapid delivery by cargo aircraft; 

RED HEAD project, test to secure logistics data during rotation to 
United Kingdom; attachments to interview include: Logistics 1956 
brochure; Program for Air Force logistics, report of the Mobilization 
Analysis Center; and Report on Phase I, Project RED HEAD (10 
July - 1 September 1952) 

Biography: Air Force planner; Commander, AMF, Pacific; Staff Officer, HQ 

USAF; Staff Officer, HQ AFLC; Wing Commander, first 
combat-ready jet fighter wing in Air Force 

Interview Coverage: 1942-1978 

Interviewer: Robert D. Laird, San Antonio Air Logistics Center History Office 
Date of Interview: 25 October 1978 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 22 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1227 
Location: AFHRA 

Hudson, LTG John B. 

Air Force Air Force - Systems Command 

Subject: Contracts - Air Force 

Contents: Atlas project; AFSC; contracting services 
Biography: Vice Commander, AFSC 
Interviewer :Dr. James Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 15-16 January 1987 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 170 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1737 
Location: AFHRA 

Huff, COL D.W. 

Air Force Air Force - Aerospace Guidance/Meteorology 

Subject: Contracts - Air Force 

Contents: Comparison of AFLC and SAC; Pacer Scope (outsourcing of all 

major base support functions); detrimental effect of Pacer Scope on 
air depots; national inability to produce heavy castings 
Biography: Commander, AGMC 
Interviewer: George W. Bradley 
Date of Interview: 20 August 1981 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 78 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1326 
Location: AFHRA 

Humphreys, MAJ Edwin C. III 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 


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Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: TCTO for F-15 aircraft at depot and organic levels; modifications 
to US aircraft overseas; modifications to F-15 A/B aircraft at 
Bitburg AB, FRG; F-15 modification team 
Interviewer:Dv. Richard W. Iobst 
Date of Interview: 20 February 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 72 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1247 
Location: AFHRA 

Hunt, William 

Navy Dr. Joseph Marchese 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of career and background, selection as Director of Navy 
Laboratories (DNL); description of the initiatives he began to 
improve the communications and remove redundancy in the Navy 
R&D community; discussion of the balance of tech-base 
management vs. engineering development work; competition within 
and effectiveness of the Naval Material Establishment role of Navy 
officers in R&D; funding of R&D through the Naval Industrial Fund 
(NIF), and the effects of budget tightening; reflections on personnel 
policy; future of Navy R&D 
Biography: Director of Navy Laboratories 
Interview Coverage: 

Interviewer:Di. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 25 March 1987 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 18 
Location: DTRC 

Hunter, Dr. Hugh 

Navy Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: General comments on R&D and the Naval Ordnance Test Station 
(NOTS)/ Naval Weapons Center (NWC); remarks about working 
under Dr. William B. McLean, CAPT Hardy, and Dr. Haskell G. 
Wilson; comments on the selection of lab leadership, organizational 
changes, need to justify research at NOTS/NWC; comments on the 
transfer of NOTS research findings to the outside world; future of 
Navy R&D 

Interviewer: Albert B. Christman 
Date of Interview: 14 August 1975 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 21 

Location: NWC; DTRC 


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Iafrate, Dr. Gerald J. 

Army Army - Materiel Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Biography: Director, Army Research Office 
Date of Interview: 8 July 1997 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: review not complete; file availability to be determined 
Location: USAMC 

Irvine, LTG Clarence S. 

Air Force Air Force - Strategic Air Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Curtis E. LeMay; Thomas S. Power; George C. Kenney; Clements 
McMullen; Dayton Bomb Plot missions; B-36 development and 
deployment; B-47; F-84; B-52H engine problems 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1959 

Interviewer: Robert M. Kipp, Strategic Air Command History Office 
Date of Interview: 17 December 1970 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 43 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 734 
Location: AFHRA 

Jaenke, Dr. Martin G. 

Air Force Air Force - Guidance Test Directorate 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Radio compass; VOR radio beacons; radio telephone; Rascal 

missile evaluation; analog computers; ballistic missile guidance 
systems; Dr. Steinhoff; guidance test symposia, Holloman AFB, 
1964-1974; Central Inertial Test Facility, Holloman AFB 
Biography: AEG (FRG); Lorenz AG (ITT subsidiary); Chief, Projects Analysis 
Branch, Holloman AFB, NM; Secretary, Vice President and 
Member, Board of Trustees, New Mexico Research Institute, 
Alamogordo, NM; Technical Director, Guidance Test Directorate, 
Holloman AFB 

Interviewer:Dv. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 26 September 1985 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 26 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1677 
Location: AFHRA 

Jagiello, Leonard T. 

Navy Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of the early days of the R&D activity at China Lake; 

origins of various programs at the Naval Weapons Center (NWC); 
discussion of Sidewinder program, including the competition with 
Hughes (Falcon) and Raytheon (Sparrow); information about the 
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military-civilian relationships, NWC-Headquarters relationships, and 
in-house vs. industry 
Interview Coverage: 1950s-1970s 
Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig, in 
Date of Interview: 15 January 1988 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: access limited 
Pages: 71 
Location: NWC 

James, Richard 

Navy Naval Air Development Center 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of personal background; organization and history of the 
Light Airborne Multipurpose System (LAMPS) project from 1968 
to the present; LAMPS discussion includes remarks about LAMPS 
as an air and ship-board project, importance of documentation in 
the program; relations between the Naval Air Development Center 
(NADC) and NAVAIR on LAMPS; mention of IBM's role in the 
LAMPS project 
Interview Coverage: 1968-1981 
Interviewer: Tom Misa and Ed Todd 
Date of Interview: 19 July 1982 
Length of Interview: 1 tape 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Access Information: Open 
Location: NADC; DTRC 

Janik, Richard W. 

Army Army - Operations Support Command 

Subject: Logistics - Army 

Contents: Transition to Industrial Operations Command; mobilization versus 
replenishment; new trends in technology 
Biography: Deputy Chief of Staff for Industrial Readiness, Industrial Operations 
Command (IOC) 

Interview Coverage: 1990s 

Interviewer: Thomas J. Slattery 

Date of Interview: 27 August 1997 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open - printed and distributed 

Pages: 24 

Location: USAOSC 

Jarrett, Paul A. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Contracts - Air Force 

Contents: FMS logistics support; Peace Sun; Saudi Arabian procurement of 
F-15 aircraft; Peace Fox. 

Interviewer: Dr. Richard W. Iobst 


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Date of Interview: 28 February 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 16 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1244 
Location: AFHRA 

Jarrett, Paul A. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Contracts - Air Force 

Contents: Contractual support of F-15 aircraft; Peace Sun; F-15 FMS to 
Saudi Arabia; aircraft logistics support problems. 

Interview er/Dr. Richard W. Iobst 
Date of Interview: 24 September 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 19 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1254 
Location: AFHRA 

Jennison, James H. 

Navy Naval Ordnance Test Station (NOTS) 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of recruitment of scientists for the Navy's West Coast 
labs — specifically the role of the Board of Scientists and the Civil 
Service Commission and competition with private industry; 
comments about the bureaucracy involved in running a lab; 
comments about the procedures involved in procuring supplies and 
awarding contracts because of government regulations; work t the 
Pasadena annex of NOTS; Pasadena annex incorporation into the 
Naval Undersea Center (NUC) in San Diego; remarks about the 
advantages of small labs over larger facilities like NOTS 
Biography: Staff, Naval Ordnance Test Station (NOTS) 

Interview Coverage: 1950s-1960s 
Interviewer: Albert B. Christman 
Date of Interview: 15 March 1978 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 17 

Location: NHC; DTRC 

Jennison, James H. 

Navy Naval Ordnance Test Station (NOTS) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of professional background; work on the Mk 13 
torpedo; changes at the NOTS-Pasadena laboratory when the 
Navy took it over, discussion of work with the Variable Angle 
Launcher and the benefits of working with the NOTS-China Lake 
team 

Biography: Staff, Naval Ordnance Test Station (NOTS) 

Interview Coverage: 1940s- 1950s 


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Interviewer: J.D. Gerrard-Gough 
Date of Interview: 25 October 1975 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 27 

Location: NWC; DTRC 

Johnson, BG Kenneth R. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Aircraft maintenance, late 1960s; Air Force Logistics Division; 
aeronautical and armament programs; AFSC acquisition and 
logistics 

Biography: F-15 program director; Commander, AEDC 

Interviewer: Hugh N. Ahmann 

Date of Interview: September 1988 

Length of Interview: 7:30 hours 

Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 

Access Information: Pending 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1842 

Location: AFHRA 

Johnson, Dr. Robert V. 

Navy Navy - Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of the dis-establishment of Naval Material Command 
(NAVMAT) and the establishment of Space and Warfare Systems 
Command (SPAWAR); discussion of the reasons for establishing 
SPAWAR; reaction of the Naval Air Systems Command 
(NAVAIR) to the establishment of SPAWAR; problems in overall 
coherence of top-level warfare requirements; perceptions of 
discrepancies between SPAWAR's theoretical functions and actual 
operations; comments about relationship between SPAWAR 30 
(WSA&E Directorate) and NAVAIR. Comparison of horizontal 
and vertical management; force-pervasive versus platform-specific 
programs; transfer of program from SPAWAR; remarks about the 
relationship among SPAWAR, NAVAIR, and the Naval Sea 
Systems Command; comments about the problems associated with 
WSA&E 

Interview Coverage: 1970s-1980s 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 1 March 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 25 
Location: DTRC 

Jones, GEN David C. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 


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Contents: B-70/RS-70 program; advanced manned strategic bombers; 

Communications Command; Air Force Acquisitions Logistics 
Division; A-10; F-14; F-15; F-16; MX; Stealth aircraft 
Biography: SAC planner and aide to GEN LeMay; TAC fighter wing 

commander; staff officer, USAFE; Commander, Second Air Force, 
1969-1971; CINCUSAFE, 1971-1974; Chief of Staff, USAF, 
1974-1978, Chairman, JCS, 1978-1982 

Interviewer: LTC Maurice Marynow, USAF, and Dr. Richard H. Kohn, USAF 
Date of Interview: August-October 1985 and January-March 1986 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Pending 
Pages: 301 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1664 
Location: AFHRA 

Jones, GEN David C. 

Air Force 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: SEA operational requirement program; product testing in combat 
environment 

Biography: SAC planner and aide to GEN LeMay; TAC fighter wing 

commander; staff officer, USAFE; Commander, Second Air Force, 
1969-1971; CINCUSAFE, 1971-1974; Chief of Staff, USAF, 
1974-1978, Chairman, JCS, 1978-1982 
Interviewer: MAJ Samuel Riddlebarger, USAF 
Date of Interview: 4 November 1989 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: CONFIDENTIAL/NOFORN 
Pages: 157 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 230 
Location: AFHRA 

Jones, MG David M. 

Air Force 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: B-58; Skybolt missile; McNamara’s views on Dyna-Soar; 

AMC-ARDC realignment; Air Force Eastern Test Range; 
relationship between developer and tester; C-5 
Interviewer :Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 13-14 January 1987 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 140 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1736 
Location: AFHRA 

Jordan, MG Larry R. 

Army Army - Training and Doctrine Command 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Army 

Contents: End-of-tour interview; discussion of army transformation issues; 


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doctrinal and fielding issues related to armor 
Biography: Chief of Armor, 1993-1995 

Interview Coverage: 1993-1995 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Location: Army Armor Center - Ft. Knox 

Josephson, ADM Joseph 

Navy Navy - Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of the dis-establishment of Naval Material Command 
(NAVMAT) and the establishment of Space and Warfare Systems 
Command (SPAWAR); discussion of military career and work as 
OP-951, Director of ASW Division; work as PM-4, Director of 
ASW Project Office; discussion of the evolution of PM-4 into three 
functions, role of PmM-4 as budget controller and project overseer; 
description of SPAWARs ASW activities; dis-establishment of 
PM-4 under ADM White, with discussion of reasons for 
reorganization; comments about the differences between PM-4 and 
WSA&E function in SPAWAR; remarks about the weaknesses of 
the WSA&E concept 

Biography: OP-951, Director of ASW Division, SPAWAR; PM-4, Director of 
ASW Project Office 

Interview Coverage: 1970s-1980s 
Interviewer :Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 20 March 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 17 
Location: DTRC 

Joyner, Earvin L. 

Air Force Air Force - Warner Robins AMA, GA 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: GEN W.T. Hefley's program of management analysis; closure of air 
materiel areas/depots; programmed depot maintenance concept; 
impact of technology repair center concept on Warner Robins 
workload; F-15 aircraft maintenance repair and system 
management; impact of high technology on Warner Robins Air 
Logistics Center; Center's operations to year 2000 

Biography: Analytical statistician; operations research analyst, Warner Robins 
Air Materiel Area, 1956 

Interview Coverage: 

Interviewer :Dr. Richard W. Iobst, Warner Robins Air Logistics Center History 
Date of Interview: 20 December 1983 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 35 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1614 


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Kalaf, George 

Navy Naval Ordnance Laboratory (NOL) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Remarks about the Mk 48 torpedo project; discussion of 

background and work at the Naval Ordnance Laboratory (NOL) 
during three decades; account of the early development of the Mk 
48 torpedo; involvement of Clevite; swashplate engine; decision to 
bring in the NSWC as a technical director; detailed description of 
the “war shots” of 1971, 1974 and 1975 of the Mk 48 and 
improvements to the torpedo that came about as a result of the 
tests; comments on trends in engineering development, especially 
mine warfare since the 1940s 

Biography: Staff, Naval Ordnance Laboratory 

Interview Coverage: 1950s-1989 
Interview er:Dx. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 13 July 1989 
Length of Interview: 2 tapes 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Access Information: Open 
Location: DTRC 

Karegeannes, BG Harry G. 

Army Army - Communications Electronics Command 

Subject: Procurement - Army 

Contents: Experience as DCG for Procurement and readiness at CECOM, 
MSE, NDI, PEO concept 
Interviewer: Bingham, Strong 
Date of Interview: October 1986 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: File open to all 
Pages: 22 
Location: USAMC 

Kartveli, Alexander 
Air Force 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: F-84; F-91; F-105. 

Interviewer: Kenneth Leish, Columbia University Aviation Project 
Date of Interview: May 1960 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Permission to cite or quote required from Columbia 
Pages: 43 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 146.34-60 
Location: AFHRA 

Katz, Amrom 

Air Force RAND 

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Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Career at RAND; work on Side-Loading Aircraft Radar (SLAR) 
system; evolution of Development Planning Objective (DPO) into 
Beacon Hill Committee 
Biography: RAND physicist 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1960s 

Interviewer: Martin Collins and Joseph Tartarewicz 

Date of Interview: 24 July 1986 

Length of Interview: 4 hours 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 71 

Location: NASM 


Keck, LTG James M. 

Air Force Air Force - Strategic Air Command 

Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: SR-71; FB- 111; B-52; B-1 cancellation 
Biography: Vice Commander, SAC 

Interviewer: LTC Ronnie D. Mitchell, USAF, Air War College, for USAF Oral 
Date of Interview: 15-16, 19 December 1983 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 199 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1564 
Location: AFHRA 

Keith, GEN Donald R. 

Army Army - Materiel Command 

Subject: Acquisition - Army 

Contents: AMC command management; technical services; project 

management; testing; RESHAPE; acquisition; field supply system 
Interviewer: Marken Birdsell 
Date of Interview: December 1984 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: File open to bona fide researchers and scholars. 

Pages: 24 
Location: USAMC 

Keltz, A. Robert 

Army Army - Materiel Command 

Subject: Logistics - Army 

Biography: Principal Deputy, Logistics 
Date of Interview: 25 February 1997 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: published interview 
Location: USAMC 

Keltz, Robert 


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Army U.S. Army Materiel Command 

Subject: Logistics - Army 

Biography: Principal Deputy of Logistics, U.S. Army Materiel Command, July 
1992 - March 1997 

Interviewer: Historical Office, U.S. Army Materiel Command 
Title: "Logistics Oral History Interview with Robert Keltz: Principal Deputy of 
Logistics, U.S. Army Materiel Command, July 1992-March 1997." 
Imprint. 

Pages: 22 

Place of Publication: Alexandria, VA 

Publisher: Historical Office, U.S. Army Materiel Command 

Date of Publication: 1997 

Finding Aids: USGPO Gov Docs 101.2: OR 1/2 


Kennedy, BG Robert W. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Development of logistics management systems action plan 

Interviewer: Robert J. Smith 

Date of Interview: 30 March 1979 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Pages: 54 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1536 
Location: AFHRA 

Kennedy, BG Thomas W. 

Air Force Air Force - Military Airlift Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Development and criticism of C-5; AFLC support; impact of C-5 
MAC routes and channel structures 
Biography: Commander, 437th Military Airlift Wing 

Interview Coverage: 1967-1972 
Interviewer: Walter L. Kraus 
Date of Interview: 2 March 1972 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 36 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 586 
Location: AFHRA 

Kennedy, William L. 

Air Force 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Air Force special weapons program 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1961 
Interviewer: Office of Air Force History 
Date of Interview: 14 September 1961 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Pages: 1 _ _____ 

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Finding Aids: AFHRA 794 
Location: AFHRA 

Kent, LTG G.A. 

Air Force 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Atomic weapons; nuclear weapons; plans and programs; research 
and development; concept formulations; studies and analysis; 
WSEG activities 
Interviewer: C PT Mark C. Cleary 
Date of Interview: 9 February 1982 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 111 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1305 
Location: AFHRA 

Kidd, MG John B. 

Air Force Air Force - Special Weapons Center 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 16-17 August 1988 
Length of Interview: 7 hours 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Access Information: Pending 
Finding Aids: AFHRA 1830 
Location: AFHRA 

Killian, James R., Jr. 

President's Science Advisory Committee 
Subject: Research and Development 

Finding Aids: OH 216 
Location: Eisenhower Library 

King, BG Benjamin H. 

Air Force Advanced Research Projects Agency 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Mission and operations of ARPA field unit, Thailand, during 
Vietnam War 

Interview Coverage: 1961-1964 

Interviewer: LTC V. Castellina, USAF, and MAJ Samuel E. Riddlebarger, 

Date of Interview: 4 September 1969 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: CONFIDENTIAL/NOFORN 

Pages: 143 

Finding A ids: AFHRA 219 
Location: AFHRA 

King, Scott 

Air Force RAND 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 


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Contents: Relations between RAND and the Air Force; contracting with 
agencies other than USAF; RAND contract with Office of 
Secretary of Defense; Systems Development Corporation (SDC) 
Biography: Douglas Aircraft contracts administrator; RAND contracts officer 
Interview Coverage: 1940s-1960s 
Interviewer: Martin Collins and Joseph Tartarewicz 
Date of Interview: 22 July 1987 
Length of Interview: 2.25 hours 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: use restrictions not established 
Pages: 40 
Location: NASM 

Kistiakowsky, George 

President’s Science Advisory Committee 

Subject: Research and Development 

Biography: Member, Chairman, 1959-1961, of the Science Advisory 

Committee; Special Assistant to the President for Science and 
Technology 

Interview Coverage: 1953-1961 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 39 

Finding Aids: OH 412 
Location: Eisenhower Library 

Kistler, Dr. Richard E. 

Navy Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of R&D trends at the Naval Weapons Center (NWC); 
Center-headquarters relationships; Civil Service Act Personnel 
Demonstration Project; NWC management philosophies 
Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig, III 
Date of Interview: 23 February 1982 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 36 

Location: NWC; NHC; DTRC 

Kleager, COL Jerald E. 

Army Army - Operations Support Command 

Subject: Logistics ■ Army 

Contents: Transition to Industrial Operations Command; changing technology 
trends; challenges facing ammunition arena; Industrial Operations 
Command infrastructure 

Biography: Executive Director for Munitions, Industrial Operations Command 
(IOC) 

Interview Coverage: 1996 
Interviewer: Thomas J. Slattery 


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Date of Interview: 14 February 1997 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open - printed and distributed 
Pages: 28 
Location: USAOSC 

Klein, Burt 

Air Force RAND 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Relations between RAND and USAF; systems analysis; research 
project examining USAF R&D; Lockheed U-2; B-70 proposal 
Biography: RAND economist 
Interview Coverage: 1940s-1960s 
Interviewer: Joseph Tartarewicz 
Date of Interview: 12 August 1988 
Length of Interview: 2 hours 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 33 
Location: NASM 

Knemeyer, Franklin H. 

Navy Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of ADM Freeman’s tour at the Naval Weapons Center 
(NWC); comments about selling products to the Navy; policy and 
process of weapons development; comments on technical projects 
including Agile, BW/CW weapons, Bigeye, Polaris, Diamondback, 
underwater vehicles; changes in funding RDT&E; purpose of 
Weapons Planning Group; management relations; capabilities and 
future of NWC 

Interview Coverage: 1960s-1970s 
Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig, III 
Date of Interview: 3 June 1981 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 29 
Location: NWC 

Knemeyer, Franklin H. 

Navy Naval Ordnance Test Station (NOTS) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of career, management philosophy, billets, facilities, 
finances; brief discussion of technical programs, including Agile, 
Condor, Bulldog, Polaris; military-civilian and NOTS-headquarters 
relationships; NWC's role 
Interview Coverage: 1950s-1981 
Interviewer: Andrew Kilikauskas 
Date of Interview: 20 February 1981 


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Interview Medium: tapes and transcript 
Access Information: Open 
Location: NWC 

Knight, LTG Janies A., Jr. 

Air Force Air Force - Tactical Air Command 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: Tactical Fighter Weapons Center; F-80; F-84; T-6; F-100; T-33; 

F-4; AC-130; F-15; aircraft technology; flight testing 
Biography: Director of Operations, Tactical Air Command; Commander, 
Tactical Fighter Weapons Center, Nellis AFB, NV; Vice 
Commander, Tactical Air Command 

Interviewer: C OL James C. Posgate, USAF, Air War College, for USAF Oral 
Date of Interview: 30 November - 1 December 1983 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 260 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1561 
Location: AFHRA 

Knowpow, Joseph J. 

Air Force Air Force - Ballistic Missile Division 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Infrared systems; air-to-air systems; submarine detection systems; 

Killian Report; time pressures in system development after DoD 
approval; roles of Eastman Kodak and General Mills in Midas 
Program; NORAD and SAC interest in using Midas as warning 
system; compares BMEWS with infrared satellite program; close 
relationship between Ballistic Missile Division and Lockheed; 
influence of GEN Bernard A. Schriever on early programs; politics 
involved in space programs; attitudes of successive administrations 
toward space programs; early satellite testing successes and failures; 
Ken Horn Report; Lloyd Mundie Report; competition between 
Lockheed and TRW for Midas Replacement Program; Sun Glint 
Program 

Interviewer: Dr. Herbert M. Zolot, Air Force Space Command History Office 
Date of Interview: 19 September 1985 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 13 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1705 
Location: AFHRA 

Koesey, Calvin 

Navy Naval Underwater Systems Center 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Reflections on work at the Naval Underwater Systems Center 
(NUSC) during the Vietnam War; remarks about mine work, 
harbor defense, and problems of coastal navies; discussion of 
laboratory representatives in Vietnam and the Navy's role in Korea 
Biography: Staff, Naval Underwater Systems Center (NUSC) 

Interview Coverage: 1 960s-1978 

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Interviewer: Albert B. Christman 
Date of Interview: 1978 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 13 
Location: DTRC 

Kopak, Herman W. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Logistical problem areas in Vietnam; Red Horse open storage; 

ineffective AFLC effort to reduce supply backlog 
Biography: Logistics specialist, Ogden Air Materiel Area 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1969 

Date of Interview: 31 July 1970 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Corona Harvest; CONFIDENTIAL 

Pages: 15 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 311 
Location: AFHRA 

Kresa, Kent 

Air Force Northrup Grumman 

Subject: Defense Industry 

Interviewer: G reg Schneider 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Editor: Jacob Neufeld 

Krutter, Dr. Harry 

Navy Naval Air Development Center 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of academic background, early career at a Naval 

Research Laboratory field station; comments on the creation of the 
Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW) Laboratory in 1958; remarks 
about BUAERs relationship with NADC; appointment as chief 
scientist of NADC in 1956; discussion of center reorganizations, the 
systems approach, and Navy lab reorganizations between 
1965-1968; mention of the Phoenix Missile System, predecessor 
system (Eagle Missile), and hybrid digital-analog computer 
(Typhoon) 

Biography: Technical Director, Naval Air Development Center (NADC), 
1956-1972 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1970s 
Interviewer: Tom Misa and Ed Todd 
Date of Interview: 28 June 1982 
Length of Interview: 2 tapes; 3 page index 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Access Information: Open 
Location: NADC 


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Krutter, Dr. Harry 

Navy Naval Air Development Center 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Reflections on career; work at MIT and arrival at the Naval Air 
Development Center in 1949; comments on his time as Technical 
Director of NADC, 1956-1972; remarks about the direction of 
Navy R&D; discussion of the Navy reorganization of 1965-1966, 
cooperation between Navy labs, reasons for retiring from NADC; 
comments about the role of the Director of Navy Laboratories and 
Chief of Naval Material in running labs; major accomplishments of 
NADC 

Biography: Technical Director, Naval Air Development Center (NADC), 
1956-1972 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1970s 
Interviewer: Albert B. Christman 
Date of Interview: April 1978 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 23 

Location: DTRC; NADC 

Kucheman, MG Henry B., Jr. 

Air Force Air Force - Armament Development and Test 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Biography: Commander, Armament Development and Test Center, Eglin AFB, 
FL 

Date of Interview: 14 May 1975 
Length of Interview: 2 hours 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Finding Aids: AFHRA 1742 
Location: AFHRA 

Kucheman, MG Henry B., Jr. 

Air Force Air Force - Armament Development and Test 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: Armament Center; Armament Lab; nuclear weapons; conventional 
armament; operational/engineering testing; transistor; programs at 
Eglin AFB, FL; contracting out to industry; mission of Air Proving 
Ground Center; A-10 aircraft; reorganization of Air Proving Ground 
Center; separation of Ballistic Missile Program from Space 
Program; formation of Comsat Corporation; Titan 1IIC; 
communications satellites; gravity gradient experiment; ICAF; 
unmanned systems; nonnuclear armament study; source selection 
activities; Air Force-Army conflict; laser-guided bombs; 

AMRAAM Program; reinventing different warheads; PGM 
advances; all-weather capability; POM-102 drone; hard-structure 
munitions; fuel-air explosives; conformal carriage and bluff bombs; 
ideal program manager for armament; direction of labs; R&D 
efforts; relationship between developer and tester 


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Interview er:Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 8-9 December 1986 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 205 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1734 
Location: AFHRA 

Kuerschner, Helmut A. 

Air Force Defense Technology Laboratories 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Planning and development of digital and analog computer systems 
and flight simulation systems at Holloman AFB, NM, in 1950s; 
"two-body separation" project involving separation problems 
between aircraft and bombs/missiles; space mission survivability; 
nuclear weapons effectiveness; SDI; Project Paperclip 
Biography: Aerophysics Development Corporation; Aerojet General 
Corporation; Defense Technology Laboratories 
Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 15 April 1985 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 73 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1648 
Location: AFHRA 

LaBerge, Dr. Walter B. 

Navy Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Description of the development of the Sidewinder missile; technical 
innovations and management philosophy of Dr. William B. McLean; 
mention of key members of the Sidewinder team; process of 
"selling" Sidewinder to the Navy; brief discussion of the Agile 
missile, including mention of players and politics 
Biography: Naval Ordnance Test Station (NOTS) Technical Director; Assistant 
Secretary of the Air Force for Research and Development 
Interview Coverage: 1960s-1980s 
Interviewer: Elizabeth Babcock 
Date of Interview: 31 August 1989 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Location: NWC 

Lahr, CAPT John Jude 

Navy Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Acquisition - Navy 

Contents: Review of tour at the Naval Weapons Center (NWC); discussion of 
civilian-military interplay at NWC; role of NWC and other Navy 
labs in national defense; comments on the contribution of NWC to 
the Reel; remarks about Skipper, Shrike, ACIMD, HARM, and 
Sidewinder programs; problems with politics in the acquisition 
process (Shrike, Sidewinder, and HARM are used as examples); 


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lengthy comments about base management issues and relations 
with surrounding community 
Biography: Commander, Naval Weapons Center 
Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig, III 
Date of Interview: 10 June 1983; 14 June 1983 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 66 
Location: NWC 

Land, ADM Emory S. 

Navy Navy - Bureau of Ships 

Subject: Procurement - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of career; work in the Bureau of Ships and Bureau of 
Aeronautics; Harry Guggenheim and air research; service as Chief 
of the Bureau of Ships; shipbuilding for the National Defense 
Agency 

Biography: Chief of the Bureau of Ships 

Interviewer: unknown 

Date of Interview: 1963 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 227 

Location: COL; NHC 

Langenbach, Earl H. 

Navy Naval Ordnance Laboratory (NOL) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of work at the Naval Gun Factory and the Navy Yard 
during WWU and after; comparison of bureaucracy in R&D during 
and after WWII; discussion of problems involved in contracting 
defense research out; comments about government regulations 
created for labs by non-R&D oriented people; consolidation of 
Navy lab system 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1960s 
Interviewer: Albert B. Christman 
Date of Interview: 13 March 1978 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 16 
Location: DTRC 

Langston, CDR Marvin 

Navy Navy - Space and Naval Warfare Systems 

Subject: Acquisition - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of dis-establishment of NAVMAT and establishment of 
SPAWAR; description of major sections of NAVSEA, work on 
systems integration issues aboard U.S.S. Arleigh Burke (DDG-51); 
description of establishment of small systems engineering project 
office under ADM Mey er in SPA-06; interaction with Harold 

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Kitson on Navy Tactical Data System (NTDS) project (later 
referred to as the Advanced Combat Direction System, or ACDS); 
comments on AEGIS system; discussion of changes in NAVSEA 
that precipitated his move to SPAWAR; details on the organization 
of SPAWAR 30 (the WSA&E Directorate); discussion of efforts to 
market the WSA&E concept; remarks about the burdens placed 
on R&D centers in support of WSA&E 
Interview Coverage: 1980s 
Interviewer :Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 2 March 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 40 
Location: DTRC 

Lashbrook, Dr. Lawrence 

Air Force Air Force - 836th Air Division 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: Operational training development team for ground-launched cruise 
missiles; cruise-missile training programs at Davis-Monthan AFB, 
AZ; Ready Merlin Exercise. 

Interviewer: Donna Clark, 836th Air Division History Office 
Date of Interview: 18 July 1984 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 9 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1681 
Location: AFHRA 

Latham, Dr. Donald 

Navy Navy - Space and Naval Warfare Systems 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of dis-establishment of NAVMAT and establishment of 
SPAWAR; overview of command, control, communications, and 
intelligence (C3I) effort in SPAWAR; problems associated with C3I 
programs in SPAWAR; comments about perceived opposition to a 
stronger WSA&E, as well as resistance within the Navy to a 
central WSA&E authority; description of the relationship between 
SPAWAR and himself as Assistant Secretary of Defense for C3I; 
brief comments on the MILSTAR communications satellite 
Biography: Assistant Secretary of Defense for C3I; Assistant Secretary of 
Defense; Member, Defense Science Board 

Interview Coverage: 1980s 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 2 March 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 17 
Location: DTRC 


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Lavelle, John D. 

Air Force Air Force - Seventh Air Force 

Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: Robert S. McNamara; Symington; Far East Air Materiel 

Command (FEAMCOM); FEAMCOM and Korean War; F-86D; 
transfer of Air Defense Command to Military Air Transport Service; 
French Mirage aircraft; T-38 acquisition; F-4E acquisition; infrared 
missile problem in Vietnam; DCPG; Project NINE sensor program; 
LORAN-equipped F-4s to Vietnam; LORAN problems; C-5; 
grounding of B-52s; IG reporting on Vietnam; Senator Barry 
Goldwater; Statement to Senator Stennis, Chairman, Senate Armed 
Services Committee, attached to interview 
Biography: Deputy Director of Requirements, HQ USAF; Director of 

Programs and Chairman, Air Staff Board, HQ USAF; Commander, 

17th Air Force; Deputy Director of Forces, Defense 
Communications Planning Group; Vice Chief of Staff, Pacific Air 
Forces; Commander, Seventh Air Force 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1972 
Interviewer: LTC John N. Dick 
Date of Interview: 17-24 April 1978 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Permission required from interviewee’s wife or daughter to quote 
Pages: 707 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1036 
Location: AFHRA 

Law, Howard 

Navy Navy - Navy Laboratories 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Description of education, military experience in the Navy Bureau of 
Ordnance (BUORD); work at the Naval Weapons Center (NWC) 
and the Naval Ordnance Plant in Georgia; employment with 
BUWEPS in Washington DC, in 1965; comments on the 
difference between BUWEPS laboratory management and the early 
days of the DNL organization; discussion of work in 6.5 funding, 
management styles and changes, and consolidations of NSRDC, 

NOSC, NSWC, and NUSC; comments about the role of the 
Facilities Division, the FCRCs, program reviews, Corporate 
Planning, the VLAP and NSAP programs, SHORESTAMPS, and 
the need for laboratories to work harder at developing leaders 

Interview Coverage: 1950s-1970s 
Interviewer: Dr. David K. Allison 
Date of Interview: 12 August 1983 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 41 
Location: DTRC 


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Law, Howard 

Navy Navy - Navy Laboratories 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Interview conducted as research for a short history of the Office of 
the Director of Navy Laboratories (DNL); discussion of the creation 
of Naval Material Command (NAVMAT); organization of the 
Office of the DNL; review of office reorganization between 1966 
and 1978; dis-establishment of NAVMAT in 1985, subsequent 
assignment of DNL to OCNR and, later, to SPAWAR; assessment 
of the role, functions, and contributions of the DNL to the Navy 
R&D effort 

Interview Coverage: 1950s-1985 

Interviewer :Dr. Joseph Marchese and Dr. Timothy Willard 

Date of Interview: 3 May 1988 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 24 

Location: DTRC 

Law, Howard 

Navy Navy - Navy Laboratories 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Interview conducted to gather information about the 

dis-establishment of NAVMAT and the establishment of 
SPAWAR; discussion of the placement of Navy R&D centers and 
the Office of the Director of Navy Laboratories (DNL) within the 
Office of the Chief of Naval Research (CNR); assessment of the 
strengths and weaknesses of the CNR organization; comments on 
Dr. James Colvard's "Haul-Down" report; description of the transfer 
of R&D centers to SPAWAR; comments about the permanence of 
the DNL organization in the Navy R&D establishment 
Interview Coverage: 1970s-1980s 
Interviewer:Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 22 March 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 25 
Location: DTRC 

Lawley, COL William R., Jr. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Research and Development 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Air Research and Development Command; beginnings of Air Force 
Systems Command 

Biography: Air Attachd to Brazil, Philippines 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1971 

Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff, USAF Oral Histories Division 
Date of Interview: 5 October 1971 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 


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Pages: 32 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 487 
Location: AFHRA 

Lawson, Dr. Joel 

Navy Navy - Navy Laboratories 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Comments on career and role at Special Assistant for Electronics; 
remarks about Robert A. Frosch as ASN (R&D); discussion of 
work as Director of Navy Laboratories (DNL); views on the 
DNL/DLP charter, block funding, management objectives; 
discussion of competition between labs and bringing COs and TDs 
together; description of the labs and resources; effects of Navy lab 
consolidations; discussion of lab budgeting, contracting, and 
relationship between DNL and Chief of Naval Operations (NCO); 
comments on the effects of the SYSCOMs losing control of the 
labs; discussion of project REFLEX 

Biography: Director of Navy Laboratories; Special Assistant for Electronics, 
Office of the Assistant Secretary of the Navy for R&D 
Interviewer: Dr. Samuel Rothman and Mrs. Susan Frutkin 
Date of Interview: 1975 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 64 

Location: DTRC; NHC 

Lawton, COL Thomas O., Jr. 

Air Force Air Force ■ Aerospace Guidance/Meteorology 

Subject: ICBM development 

Contents: Industrial contractors; inertial guidance systems for Atlas, Titan and 
Minuteman; James Chatfield; Clarence B. Knight; Wally Horton; 
Fritz Guenther 

Biography: Director, Heath Maintenance Annex, Newark AFS, OH 

(foundation for Aerospace Guidance and Meteorology Center) 
Interviewer: Ge orge W. Bradley 
Date of Interview: 21 October 1981 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 63 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1548 
Location: AFHRA 

Leaf, Howard W. 

Air Force Air Force - Office of Test and Evaluation 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Biography: Commander, Air Force Test and Evaluation Center, October 1976 
- June 1980 

Interviewer: Lawrence R. Benson 
Date of Interview: 8, 10 September 1992 
Place of Interview: Pentagon, Washington DC 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

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Title: Oral History Interview of Howard W. Leaf (Lt General, USAF, 

Retired), Director of Test and Evaluation, Headquarters, United States 
Air Force, Focusing on Air Force Test and Evaluation 
Date of Publication: 1992 

Leavitt, LTG Lloyd R., Jr. 

Air Force Air Force - Strategic Air Command 

Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: F-l 11 program; MX; B-l program; Strategic Air Command 
Biography: Commander, 423rd TAC Fighter Wing; Vice Commander, 

Strategic Air Command 
Interviewer: LTC David Greenberg 
Date of Interview: 4-5 December 1981 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Release Pending 
Pages: 225 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1620 
Location: AFHRA 

Lehman, John 

Navy Navy - Secretary 

Subject: Secretary - Navy 

Contents: Comments about the dis-establishment of NAVMAT and the 

establishment of SPAWAR; discussion of the rationale behind the 
comprehensive organizational changes that he promoted in the 
Navy's research, development, and acquisition activities; remarks 
about the creation of a warfare systems architecture and engineering 
(WSA&E) function 

Biography: Secretary of the Navy, 1981-1987 

Interview Coverage: 1984-1990 
Interviewer ;Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 27 February 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 17 
Location: DTRC 

Lehner, Dr. George F. J. 

Navy Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of his associations with Naval Weapons Center (NWC) 
managers - especially Dr. McLean - and his impressions of the 
Center's management style and philosophy; remarks about the 
NWC corporate culture, community, military-civilian relationships 
Biography: Management consultant to the Naval Weapons Center 
Interview Coverage: 1970s-1984 
Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig, III 
Date of Interview: 7 December 1984 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

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Access Information: access restricted 
Pages: 27 
Location: NWC 

LeMay, GEN Curtis E. 

Air Force Air Force - Strategic Air Command 

Subject: Procurement - Air Force 

Contents: SAC buildup; JCS role; distribution of funds within Air Force; R&D 
cost effectiveness; USAF's space effort; Skybolt; U.S. air defense 
requirements; NATO-US cooperation 

Biography: Chief of Staff, Research and Development, HQ USAAF, 

1945-1947; Commanding General, US Air Forces in Europe, 

1947- 1948; Commander-in-Chief, Strategic Air Command, 

1948- 1957; Vice Chief of Staff, USAF, 1957-1961; Chief of Staff, 
USAF, 1961-1965; retired January 1965 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1969 
Interviewer: Office of Air Force History 
Date of Interview: January 1965 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 16 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 714 
Location: AFHRA 

LeMay, GEN Curtis E. 

Air Force Air Force - Strategic Air Command 

Subject: Procurement - Air Force 

Contents: Post-World War II nuclear weapon planning; R&D after Second 
World War; establishment of Rand Corporation; SAC capabilities, 
1948; formation of U.S. Air Forces, Pacific, 1945; SAC tactical 
role, 1950 

Biography: Chief of Staff, Research and Development, HQ USAAF, 

1945-1947; Commanding General, US Air Forces in Europe, 

1947- 1948; Commander-in-Chief, Strategic Air Command, 

1948- 1957; Vice Chief of Staff, USAF, 1957-1961; Chief of Staff, 
USAF, 1961-1965; retired January 1965 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1953 
Interviewer: John T. Bohn 
Date of Interview: 9 March 1971 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 43 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 736 
Location: AFHRA 

Link, MG James M. 

Army Army - Missile Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Contents: Arressihle via http://www.redstone.armv.mil/historv/oral/link.html 
Biography: Director, Materiel Management Directorate, U.S. Army Materiel 
Command (MICOM), Redstone Arsenal, AL, 1986-1989; Deputy 


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Commanding General, MICOM, 1992-1993; Deputy Commander, 

21st Theater Army Command, U.S. Army Europe/Seventh Army, 

June 1993 - June 1994; Commanding General, MICOM June 1994- June 1997 
Interview Coverage: 1994-1997 
Interviewer: Michael E. Baker and Claus R. Martel 
Date of Interview: 16 June 1997 
Interview Medium: Tape - Video 
Location: USAAMCOM 

Litke, COL Donald P. 

Air Force Air Force - C-141B Stretch Program Office 

Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: Genesis of stretch program; sole-source selection of Lockheed as 
prime contractor; concern about Lockheed selection; reaction of 
governmental departments to stretch program; innovative 
approaches to keeping contractor-generated costs down; 

Lockheed's effort on Stretch program; use of Stretch program 
management procedures for other Air Force programs 

Biography: Chief, C-141B Stretch Office, Robins AFB, GA 
Interview Coverage: 1975-1978 

Interviewer: Benjamin Vincent, Air Logistics Center History Office 
Date of Interview: 2 February 1979 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 26 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1193 
Location: AFHRA 

Lovett, Robert 

OSD OSD - Secretary of Defense 

Subject: Secretary - OSD 

Biography: Secretary of Defense, 1951-1953 

Interview Coverage: 1951-1953 
Date of Interview: 1971 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 21 

Finding Aids: OH 302 
Location: Eisenhower Library 

Lovett, Robert A. 

OSD OSD - Secretary of Defense 

Subject: Secretary - OSD 

Contents: Personalities and politics in Truman administration; remarks on 
contracting and acquisition (C-5, F-l 11); accessible via 
www.trumanlibrary.org/oralhist/lovett 
Biography: Secretary of Defense, 1951-1953; Asst. Secretary of Defense, 

1950-1951; Undersecretary of State, 1947-1949 

Interview Coverage: 1950-1953 

Interviewer: Richard D. McKinzie and Theodore A. Wilson _ 

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Date of Interview: 7 July 1971 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open; transcript available at 
Location: Truman Library 

Loving, LTG George G., Jr. 

Air Force Air Force - Eglin Air Proving Ground 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: Tests of aircraft and guided munitions at Eglin Air Proving Ground; 

AW ACS aircraft 
Interviewer:C PT Mark C. Cleary 
Date of Interview: 5-7 July 1983 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 284 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1528 
Location: AFHRA 

Lucas, COL Charles W. 

Air Force Air Force - 388th Tactical Fighter Wing 

Subject: Operations and Maintenance - Air Force 

Contents: Difficulties in securing materiel for aircraft maintenance; cost factors 
in securing necessary aircraft parts; lessons learned for improvement 
of maintenance system 

Biography: Chief of Maintenance, 388th Tactical Fighter Wing 

Interview Coverage: 1965-1966 
Interviewer: 1LT Harold R. Robinson 
Date of Interview: 22 January 1969 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Corona Harvest 
Pages: 21 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 83 
Location: AFHRA 

Luczac, BG Bernard R. 

Army Army - Tank-Automotive Command 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Army 

Contents: MBT-70; Abrams 

Biography: PM, US/FRG Tank Development Program 

Interview Coverage: 1968-1972 

Access Information: File open to bona fide researchers 

Location: USAMC 

Luedecke, MG Alvin R. 

Air Force Atomic Energy Commission 

Subject: Atomic Energy 

Contents: Relationships with prominent figures while at Atomic Energy 
Commission; Special Weapons Center; Cal Tech Corporation. 

Biography: General Manager, Atomic Energy Commission 
Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 


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Date of Interview: 7-8 July 1987 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 134 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1759 
Location: AFHRA 

Lyons, Dr. John W. 

Army Army - Laboratory Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Biography: Director, ARL 1993-1998 
Date of Interview: December 1999 
Access Information: File open and available 
Location: USAMC 

MacIntyre, Malcolm A. 

Air Force Air Force - Under Secretary 

Subject: ICBM Development 

Contents: Working relationship with Donald Quarles, Deputy Secretary of 
Defense; dealings with GEN Bernard Schriever; Atlas program; 
Titan program; Minuteman program; Federal Aviation Act of 1958 
and cancellation of nuclear bomber aircraft 
Biography: Under Secretary of Air Force, 1957 
Interviewer: Dr. George M. Watson, Office of Air Force History 
Date of Interview: 26 September 1985 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 35 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1683 
Location: AFHRA 

Maggart, MG Lon E. 

Army Army - Training and Doctrine Command 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Army 

Biography: Chief of Armor, 

Interview Coverage: 1995-1996 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Location: Army Armor Center - Ft. Knox 

Manz, Dr. Bruno J. 

Air Force Air Force - Holloman AFB, NM 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Project Paperclip; aeroballistics laboratory, Redstone Arsenal, AL; 

Holloman AFB, NM; duplication of research effort among military 
services; Strategic Defense Initiative; annual versus multiyear R&D 
funding; missile defense tasks; work with industry and universities; 
methods of awarding military contracts; MX Missile program 
Interviewer:Dt. James C. Hasdorff, USAF 
Date of Interview: 16 April 1985 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Pages: 69 _ 

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Finding Aids: AFHRA 1649 
Location: AFHRA 

Marsh, GEN Robert T. 

Air Force 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Biography: Chief, Projects Division, Directorate of Space; Executive 
Officer, Deputy Chief of Staff, Air Force Research and 
Development; Deputy, Reconnaissance/Strike and 
Electronic Warfare, AFSC, August 1969 - June 1973; Deputy 
Chief of Staff for Development and Plans, AFSC, June 1973 - 
October 1973; Deputy Chief of Staff for Systems, AFSC, June 
1973 - August 1975; Vice Commander, AFSC, August 1975 - 
May 1977; Commander, Electronic Systems Division, AFSC, May 
1977 - January 1981; Commander, AFSC, January 1981 - August 
1984 

Interviewer: Richard H. Kohn 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Editor: Jacob Neufeld 

Title: "Reflections on Research and Development in the United States Air 
Force" 

Place of Publication: Washington DC 

Publisher: Center for Air Force History 
Date of Publication: 1993 

Martin, LTG Abner B. 

Air Force Air Force - Armament Development and Test 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: Ballistic missile inertial guidance systems; aircraft armament systems; 
ICBM R&D funding; procurement procedures and costs; industrial 
and military management; research and development at Eglin AFB, 
FL; guided munitions technology; Air Force Armament Test 
Laboratory; Advanced Ballistic Reentry Systems program; AT-6 
aircraft; T-28 aircraft; B-l aircraft cancellation; Minuteman missile; 
MX missile; Pershing missile; Atlas missile; Supersonic Transport; 
F-105 aircraft 

Biography: Commander, Air Force Armament Test Laboratory 

Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 

Date of Interview: 14-15 September 1983 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Pages: 181 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1539 
Location: AFHRA 

Martin, LTG Glen W. 

Air Force Air Force - Secretary 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Secretary Symington's management techniques for establishment of 
Air Force; Symington’s feelings on hydrogen bomb, national 
se curity, NATO, ballistic missile research and development, _ 

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WSEG; "revolt of the admirals" over the B-36; relationship between 
James V. Forrestal, Secretary of Defense, and Symington; need of 
air superiority 

Biography: Assignment to Office of the Secretary of the Air Force, November 
1947 - February 1951 

Interview Coverage: 1947-1951 

Interviewer: LTC Vaughn N. Gallacher and Hugh N. Ahmann 
Date of Interview: 16 February 1977 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 95 

Finding Aids: AFHRA946 
Location: AFHRA 

Massey, CMS William R. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: F-15 time compliance technical orders/modifications at Bitburg AB, 
FRG; 2955th Combat Logistics Support Squadron 
Interviewer: Richard W. Iobst 
Date of Interview: 21 February 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 27 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1246 
Location: AFHRA 

Masterson, VADM Kleber S. 

Navy OSD - Weapons Systems Evaluation Group 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - OSD 

Contents: Discussion of Polaris development; work as Director of the OSD 
Weapons Systems Evaluation Group (WSEG) 

Biography: Executive Member, Navy Ballistic Missiles Committee; Chief of 
Navy Bureau of Weapons (BUWEPS); Director, Weapons 
Systems Evaluation Group, OSD 

Interview Coverage: 1950s-1960s 
Interviewer: unknown 

Date of Interview: November 1972; April 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 493 

Location: NHC; NWCM; USNI 

Material Command 

Army Army - Materiel Command 

Subject: Acquisition 

Contents: Oral histories of general officers and civilians serving with the AMC; 
logistics assistance programs; research, development and 
acquisition; arsenals; resource management; personnel and EEO 
Interview Coverage: 1960-1990 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper _ 

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Access Information: collection of papers and oral history interviews from AMC 
Location: MHI - Carlisle 


Mathis, GEN Robert C. 

Air Force Air Force - Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Thoughts on GEN George S. Brown; Brown as Commander, 

AFSC; Rome Air Development Center; F- 111 aircraft program 
Interviewer: Dr. Edgar F. Puryear, Jr. 

Date of Interview: 8 April 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 44 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1464 
Location: AFHRA 

Maxwell, MG J.C. 

Air Force Air Force - Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Reorganization and redesignation of ARDC to AFSC; AFSC 
development and Armament Development and Test Center 
Interviewer: Melvin M. Kessler, Armament Division History Office 
Date of Interview: 29 November - 1 December 1982 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 34 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1557 
Location: AFHRA 

May, Charles B. 

Navy Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of lessons learned from a career in Navy R&D program 
management; discussion of employment at NOL, Corona, between 
1967 and 1971, during which time Corona was being 
dis-established and its programs transferred to NWC; remarks 
about working philosophies of NOL and NWC, comments about 
increased bureaucratization; discussion of Shrike and HARM missile 
programs - comments as program manager for both systems; 
insights on relationships with PMAs; discussion of the genesis of the 
Design Review Committee, contract management improvement 
efforts, place of the contractor on the design team; summary of the 
strengths and weaknesses of the NWC in the weapons development 
process 

Biography: Program Manager, Naval Ordnance Test Station (NOTS); Program 
Manager, Naval Weapons Center (NWC) 

Interview Coverage: 1960s-1988 

Interviewer: Elizabeth Babcock 

Date of Interview: 27 April 1988; 28 April 1988 


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Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 75 

Location: NWC; DTRC; NHC 

McBride, GEN William V. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Staff 

Subject: Procurement - Air Force 

Contents: 

Biography: Military Assistant to Secretary of the Air Force Zuckert and 
Secretary of the Air Force Harold Brown; Commander, Air 
Training Command; Commander, AFLC; Vice Chief of Staff of Air 
Force, 1975-1978 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1978 
Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 29-31 January 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 255 

Finding Aids: AFHRA1188 
Location: AFHRA 

McBurnett, Genie 

Navy Navy - Space and Naval Warfare Systems 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of the dis-establishment of NAVMAT and establishment 
of SPAWAR; details of interviewee's professional background; 
historical details of the establishment of SPAWAR; definitions of 
warfare systems architecture (WSA) and warfare systems 
engineering (WSE); historical discussion of the programs which 
were precursors to WSA&E; comments about problems with C3I 
and her involvement in work to develop specifications to define 
performance boundaries; overview of WSA&E; comments about 
problems related to direct and indirect funding; evaluation of RADM 
Clark as Commander of SPAWAR; comparison of the 
contributions of the Strategic Systems Project Office (SSPO) and 
the AEGIS program to WSA&E; remarks about the rationale 
behind the development of the Assistant Secretary of the Navy for 
Research, Development, and Acquisition (RDA) 

Interview Coverage: 1980s 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 19 June 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 29 
Location: DTRC 

McCarthy, VADM Paul, Jr. 

Navy Navy - Space and Naval Warfare Systems 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of the dis-establishment of NAVMAT and the creation 


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of SPAWAR; evaluation of the Navy R&D organization; discussion 
of the relative merits of placing the R&D centers under the Chief of 
Naval Research (CNR), SPAWAR, or the sponsoring Systems 
Commands (SYSCOMs); remarks about funding of R&D centers; 
discussion of the full-spectrum laboratory concept; relationship 
between the CNR and the systems commands; idea of the 
Secretary of Defense examining the laboratories of all of the military 
services 

Interview er:Dx. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 30 March 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 16 
Location: DTRC 

McCorkle, MG Charles M. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Staff 

Subject: Guided Missiles 

Biography: Deputy Chief of Staff, Guided Missiles, HQ USAF, 1954; Assistant 
Chief of Staff, Guided Missiles, HQ USAF, 1956; Commander, 

Air Force Special Weapons Center, Kirtland AFB, NM, 1959; 

Vice Commander, Fifth Air Force, Tokyo, Japan, 1962; Assistant 
Deputy Chief of Staff, Programs and Resources, HQ USAF, 1965 
Interviewer:!) r. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 18-19 April 1988 
Length of Interview: 4:45 hours 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Access Information: Pending 
Finding Aids: AFHRA 1794 
Location: AFHRA 

McCoskrie, COL Roland K. 

Air Force 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Decision to terminate A-26 program due to logistics problem. 
Biography: Commander, 56th Special Operations Wing 

Interview Coverage: 1963-1968 
Interviewer: LTC Robert G. Zimmerman 
Date of Interview: 14 July 1975 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 106 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 893 
Location: AFHRA 

McCoy, MG John L. 

Air Force Air Force - Titan Program Office 

Subject: ICBM development 

Contents: GEN LeMay and SAC; association with aerospace contractors; 

nuclear-powered aircraft; R&D business; Ballistic Missile Division; 

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Titan I; Atlas; Minuteman; Minuteman activation program; problem 
with Thiokol motor; value engineering; Titan II; Minuteman third 
stage; Aerospace Corporation; Dynasoar program; shipping of 
Minuteman; SAMSO; closing of Ballistic Missile Division; 
penetration aid programs; AFLC modernization 
Biography: Director of Plans, AFLC 
Interviewer: Hugh N. Ahmann 
Date of Interview: 24-25 April 1986 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 107 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1708 
Location: AFHRA 

McCullogh, COL William N. 

Air Force Air Force - Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: R&D experiences with various Air Force personnel; acquaintances 
with AFSC general officers 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1973 

Interviewer: MAJ Ralph A. Rowley, USAF, and Hugh N. Ahmann, USAF Oral 
Date of Interview: 27 February 1973 
Length of Interview: 2 hours 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 

Access Information: Permission required from interviewee to cite or quote 
Finding Aids: AFHRA 660 
Location: AFHRA 

McDaniel, Dr. John L. 

Army Army - Missile Command 

Subject: Acquisition - Army 

Contents: Work of Army Ordnance Rocket Center; Army Rocket and 

Guided Missile Agency; US Army Missile Command; US Army 
Missile Research and Development Command; funding and fielding 
missile systems: Hermes, Nike, Hawk, Honest John, Little John, 

Redstone, Pershing, Jupiter, Lance; Ordnance Missile Laboratories; 
management styles and organizational structures of army R&D 
centers 

Interview Coverage: 1946-1970s 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Retained by MHI; oral history included with paper 
Location: MHI 

McDonnell, GEN John P. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Staff 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: Testing of new equipment in combat theater; FB-111 aircraft; B-70 
cancellation 

Biography: Chief of Staff, U.S. Air Force, 1965-1969 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1970 


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Interviewer: MAJ Richard B. Clement and Dr. Charles H. Hildreth 
Date of Interview: 4 November 1970 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 73 

Finding Aids: AFHRA371 
Location: AFHRA 

McDonnell, GEN John P. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Staff 

Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: Systems analysis and military procurement; relationship between 
Chiefs of Staff and Secretary of Defense 
Interview Coverage: 1963-1969 

Inter viewer: Dorothy Pierce McS weeny, Lyndon Johnson Library 
Date of Interview: 28 August 1969 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 42 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1190 
Location: AFHRA 

McGehee, LTG Thomas K. 

Air Force Aerospace Defense Command 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Biography: Commander, Flight Test Group, Eglin Field, 1944-1946; Vice 
Commander and Commander, Aerospace Defense Command, 
1970-1974 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1974 
Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 28-30 November 1977 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: SECRET 
Pages: 295 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 978 
Location: AFHRA 

McGough, MG Edward A. 

Air Force Air Force - Tactical Air Command 

Subject: Operations and Maintenance - Air Force 

Contents: TAC Commander's Tactical Fighter Tactics and Weapon System 
Panel, Langley AFB, VA, 23-25 June 1965; Panel's decision that 
TAC should have single-purpose air superiority fighter 

Interview Coverage: 1965 

Interviewer: Jacob Neufeld, Office of Air Force History 
Date of Interview: 26 September 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 11 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 860 
Location: AFHRA 


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McGuire, Edward Perkins 

OSD OSD - Secretary of Defense 

Subject: Secretary - OSD 

Biography: Assistant Secretary of Defense for Supply and Logistics, 
1956-1961 

Interview Coverage: 1954-1961 
Date of Interview: 1972 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 98 

Finding Aids: OH 257 
Location: Eisenhower Library 

McIntosh, COL Richard K. 

Air Force Air Force - Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: F-15 development; development of Blue Line system, vehicle for 
F-15 R&D personnel to contact higher-level Air Force personnel 
quickly 

Interview Coverage: 1973 

Interviewer: Jacob Neufeld, Office of Air Force History 
Date of Interview: 6 March 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 42 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 968 
Location: AFHRA 

McKean, COL Kenneth R. 

Air Force 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: E-3A AWACS program. 

Interviewer: Terence R. St. Louis, Office of Air Force History 
Date of Interview: 19 May 1983 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 46 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1541 
Location: AFHRA 

McKee, GEN William F. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Staff 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Robert S. McNamara; Lyndon B. Johnson. 

Biography: Vice Commander, Air Materiel Command; Commander, AFLC; 
Assistant Vice Chief of Staff, US AF; Vice Chief of Staff, 
1962-1964 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1968 
Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 13-14 March 1979 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 


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Finding Aids: AFHRA 1118 
Location: AFHRA 


McKnight, LTG Clarence E. 

Army Army - Signal Command 

Subject: Program Management - Army 

Biography: Commanding General, U.S. Army Communications Command 
Date of Interview: 14 December 1987 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Location: USASC-FG 

McLean, Dr. William B. 

Navy Naval Ordnance Test Station (NOTS) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Overview of naval laboratories since WWII; comments on the state 
of the Naval Ordnance Test Station and the Naval Ordnance 
Laboratory at the end of WWII; discussion of the transfer of the 
labs to the Chief of Naval Material in 1966; remarks about the 
Sherwin Plan, changes in the Office of the Director of Navy 
Laboratories (DNL); remarks about the effects of Congress on the 
labs, NIF Funding, and Special Project Offices and Project 
Managers; explains the effect of frequent leadership changes on 
R&D; outline of significant lab problems from 1958 to 1973; 
comments on how to evaluate R&D during peacetime 
Interview Coverage: 1950s-1973 

Interviewer: Dr. Samuel Rothman and Mrs. Susan Frutkin 

Date of Interview: 12 December 1974 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 33 

Location: DTRC 

McLean, Dr. William B. 

Navy Naval Ordnance Test Station (NOTS) 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of the development of various Naval missile projects at 
NOTS, including Sidewinder and Walleye; discussion of their 
tracking and launching methods; discussion of the politics involved in 
developing a missile 
Interview Coverage: 1950s-1960s 
Interviewer: Albert B. Christman 
Date of Interview: 16 November 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 30 

Location: NWC; DTRC 

McLucas, Dr. John L. 

Air Force Air Force - Sec retary _ 

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Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Role as Air Force Secretary; selection of GEN Jones as Chief of 
Staff 

Biography: Secretary, USAF 
Interviewer: Dr. Edgar F. Puryear, Jr. 

Date of Interview: 21 February 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Permission required from interviewee for access to 
Pages: 22 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1462 
Location: AFHRA 

McLucas, Dr. John L. 

Air Force Air Force - Secretary 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Role as Air Force Secretary; personalities; NRO; Secretary of Defense Melvin 
Laird as a manager; Secretary of Defense Robert Schlesinger; Deputy Secretary 
William Clements; Air Force acquisition policies and procedures; airplane 
development versus satellite development; COMSAT; NRO methodology; 
Deputy Secretary David Packard; acquisition reform; TPP; C-5; F-15; F-l 11; 
Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara; precision bombing; project managers; 
acquisition workforce and education; industry 
Biography: Secretary of the Air Force 
Interviewer: Walton S. Moody; Walter S. Poole. 

Date of Interview: 5 June 2001 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Pending 
Pages: 50 
Location: DAHP 

McMillan, Dr. William G. 

Government Defense Advance Research Projects Agency 

Subject: Research and Development 

Contents: Discussion of the creation of the position of Science Advisor to the 
Military Assistance Command - Vietnam (MAC-V); describes his 
activities while associated with MAC-V; reflections of the necessity 
for quick response to tactical problems by the scientific community; 
anecdotes illustrating his work and techniques used to accomplish 
missions 

Biography: Science Advisor, Military Assistance Command ~ Vietnam 

Interview Coverage: 1960s 

Interviewer: Glenn E. Bugos 

Date of Interview: 9 August 1985 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 30 

Location: DTRC 

McNickle, LTG Marvin 


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Air Force Air Force - Air Research and Development 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Wright Field R&D Center; early ARDC leaders; early missiles; 

TAC concept; C-130s and KB-150s in Tactical Air Command 
(TAC); problems with F-100 and F-105; F-4; FB-111; assignment 
to Deputy Chief of Staff, Research and Development; 
contractor-military relationship 

Biography: Commander, 13th Air Force 
Interviewer: Hugh N. Ahmann 
Date of Interview: 21 October 1985 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 214 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1679 
Location: AFHRA 

McNicol, Dr. David L. 

OSD OSD - Cost Analysis Improvement Group 

Subject: Research and Development - OSD 

Contents: Cost Analysis Improvement Group (CAIG) 

Biography: Science Advisor, Military Assistance Command - Vietnam 

Interview Coverage: 1980s-2004 

Interviewer: Carolyn C. Hofig 

Date of Interview: 15 September 2004 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper/Electronic; Tape - Audio 
Access Information: Pending 
Pages: 32 
Location: DAHP 

McVey, MG Peter M. 

Army Army - Tank-Automotive and Armaments 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Biography: Program Executive Officer, Armored Systems Modernization 

Interview Coverage: 1989-1993 

Date of Interview: September 1993 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: File open to bona fide researchers 

Location: USAMC, USASC-FG 

Merrell, GEN Jack G. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Biography: Chief of Staff, Atlantic Division, MATS; Commander, Kindley AB, 
Bermuda; Chief, Plans and Programs Division, MATS; 
Commander, Eastern Transport Air Force, MATS, McGuire AFB, 
NJ; Deputy Chief of Staff for Plans, MATS; Director of Budget, 
USAF; Comptroller, USAF; Vice Commander, USAFE; 
Commander, AFLC; retired 1972 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1972 
Interview er:^A Ad Scottie S. Thompson 


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Date of Interview: 25-29 November 1979 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 296 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1179 
Location: AFHRA 

Merryman, LTG James H. 

Army Army - Aviation and Missile Command 

Subject: Aviation - Army 

Contents: Aviation career; Howze Board; AH-56 Cheyenne Program; AH-64 
Apache program; Army aviation relations with Congress 
Interviewer: Dr. James W. Williams 
Date of Interview: 23 January 2000 
Length of Interview: 2 90-min. tapes 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open; filed alpha in file cabinet, 870-5.4000 series 
Pages: 4 

Location: AABHO 

Messersmith, LTC John D. 

Air Force 

Subject: Foreign Military Sales 

Contents: F-15 FMS programs; sales to Israel (Peace Fox); sales to Japan 
(Peace Eagle); sales to Saudi Arabia (Peace Sun) 

Interviewer: Richard W. Iobst 
Date of Interview: 29 September 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 17 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1255 
Location: AFHRA 

Metcalf, YADM Joseph 

Navy Navy - Space and Naval Warfare Systems 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Interview pertains to the dis-establishment of NAVMAT and 
establishment of SPAWAR in 1985; discussion of NAVMATs 
effectiveness and interviewee’s perceptions of the rationale behind 
the establishment of SPAWAR and the reasons for assigning it the 
WSA&E function; discussion concerning the effectiveness and 
appropriateness of placing the WSA&E function within a systems 
command; remarks about the necessity of WSA&E, type of officer 
best suited for the job, problems encountered with effective 
implementation 
Interview Coverage: 1980s 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 13 March 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 13 
Location: DTRC 


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Metzel, RADM Jeffrey 

Navy Navy Ordnance Laboratory 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Interview pertaining to the history of the Mk 48 Torpedo 

development program; discussion of personal background and 
assignments, especially time spent as Program/Project Manager for 
the Mk 48 Mod 0 and Mod 2 Torpedoes; description of the state of 
the torpedo program when interviewee took over, developments 
that took place during his tenure, including re-involvement of Clevite 
in development process; remarks about the involvement of the 
Department of Defense in selecting the Clevite design, reasons the 
Westinghouse design was not chosen; discussion of lessons learned 
from program, including engineering development, project 
management, and cost-type contracting observations 
Interview Coverage: 1960s-1971 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 17 July 1989 
Length of Interview: 1 tape 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Access Information: Open 
Location: DTRC 

Meyer, RADM Wayne 

Navy Navy - Space and Naval Warfare Systems 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: NAVMAT/SPAWAR interview to gather information about the 
dis-establishment of NAVMAT; review of career since 1970, 
especially involvement with the AEGIS program; discussion of the 
context for the AEGIS program, including remarks about the Navy's 
experiences in WWU and the origins of systems engineering; 
description of the relationships among research, engineering, and 
production; background on the procurement of the AEGIS system 
in response to the growing strike missile capability of the Soviet 
Union; description of the AEGIS program philosophy; remarks 
about how NAVMAT could have been the leader in systems 
architecture extensive remarks about interviewee's views on the 
types and functions of warfare; comments about vessel and battle 
group organization, comparisons between naval organization forms 
and technology integration; comparison of the Office of the CNO 
with Chief of NAVMAT; discussion of problems encountered by 
SPAWAR in WSA&E activities; effect of the Goldwater-Nichols 
Defense Department Reorganization Act on naval organization and 
the flow of funds; remarks about the effect of Goldwater-Nichols on 
the role of the CNO and the organization of the Joint Chiefs of Staff 
(JCS) 

Biography: Project Manager, AEGIS Shipbuilding Project, 1975-1983; Deputy 
Commander of Weapons and Combat Systems, 1983-1985 
Interview Coverage: 1980s 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 


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Date of Interview: 30 April 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 58 
Location: DTRC 

Middendorf, J. William, III 

Navy Navy - Naval Material Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: NAVMAT/SPAWAR interview to gather information about the 

dis-establishment of NAVMAT; positive remarks about the overall 
structure and effectiveness of the Navy's material establishment 
during his tenure as Secretary of the Navy; evaluation of the Navy's 
R&D centers and their interactions with NAVMAT and the 
SYSCOMs; assessment of John Lehman's restructuring of the 
contract system and his decision to abolish NAVMAT 
Biography: Secretary of the Navy, 1974-1977 

Interview Coverage: 1970s~1985 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 12 March 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 10 
Location: DTRC 

Miley, GEN Henry A. 

Army Army - Materiel Command 

Subject: Program Management - Army 

Contents: Early AMC organization; arsenal system; PM structure; project 
management 

Interviewer: Marken Birdsell 
Date of Interview: November 1984 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Incomplete file; requires completion of interviewee's edit; 
Pages: 43 
Location: USAMC 

Miller, COL Burton T., Jr. 

Air Force Air Force - Tactical Air Command 

Subject: Operations and Maintenance - Air Force 

Contents: Conversion of 21st Tactical Fighter Wing to F-15 aircraft; problems 
associated with conversion; climate-related problems of F-15 in 
Alaska 

Biography: Deputy Commander, Operations, 21st Tactical Fighter Wing, July 
1981 - October 1983 
Interviewer: John F. Eckert 
Date of Interview: 1984 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 19 


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Finding Aids: AFHRA 1654 
Location: AFHRA 


Miller, LTG Thomas H., Jr. 

Marine Corps Marine Corps - Command Staff 
Subject: Test and Evaluation - Marine Corps 

Contents: First American to fly Marine Corps' AV-8A VTOL aircraft; set 

aviation speed record in F4H-1 (F-4B) aircraft; Harrier aircraft and 
importance of VTOL aircraft 

Biography: Deputy Chief of Staff for Aviation, HQ Marine Corps 
Interviewer: LTC Peter L. Kranker, USMC, Air War College, for USAF Oral 
Date of Interview: 9-10 December 1985 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 300 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1686 
Location: AFHRA 

Miller, LTG Troup, Jr. 

Air Force Air Force - Arnold Engineering Development 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Engine and rocket tests at AEDC; Air University; Air War College; 

Air Command and Staff College 
Biography: Commander, Air University; retired 1963 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1963 
Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 11-12 July 1978 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 213 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1059 
Location: AFHRA 

Miller, MG David V. 

Air Force Air Force - Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Naval Research Laboratory work on Mike Shot, large-yield 

thermonuclear weapon; GEN Orvil Anderson; C-45 accidents; 

B-66 problems; AFOAT; AEC; AFSC; Titan U missile program; 
Operation Paddlewheel; TREES program 
Biography: Commander, Special Weapons Center, Kirtland AFB, NM 
Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 25 September 1985 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 126 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1674 
Location: AFHRA 

Miller, VADM Richard 

N aV y Navy - Space and Naval Warfare Systems 

Subject: Acquisition - Navy 

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Contents: Discussion of the dis-establishment of NAVMAT and the 

establishment of SPAWAR, commenting on official and actual 
reasons; discussion of the establishment of the Office of Naval 
Acquisition Support; remarks about the transition from Naval 
Electronics Systems Command to SPAWAR and the genesis of 
WSA&E; information about the placement of R&D centers within 
SPAWAR 

Interview Coverage: 1980s 
InterviewerDx. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 17 April 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 27 
Location: DTRC 

Milton, GEN Theodore R. 

Air Force Air Force - Inspector General 

Subject: Automation - Air Force 

Contents: Commercial Reserve Air Fleet; beginnings of computer use in Air 
Force; development of ballistic missiles; Air Force-Army rivalry 
over missiles 

Biography: Director of Operations, MATS; Deputy Director for Management 
Analysis, HQ USAF; assistant to Secretary of Air Force; 
Commander, 41st Air Division, Johnson AB, Japan, August 1958; 
Deputy Chief of Staff, Plans and Operations, CINCPAC, Chief of 
Staff, Tactical Air Command, 1965; Inspector General of the Air 
Force; Comptroller of the Air Force; Deputy Chairman, NATO, 
1969. 

Interviewer: CVT Mark C. Cleary, USAF 
Date of Interview: 9 July 1982 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 29 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1339 
Location: AFHRA 

Mitchell, MG Clyde H. 

Air Force Air Force - Systems Command 

Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: Procurement of B-52 aircraft; F-102, first aircraft procured by 
contract; procurement of F-l 11 aircraft; formation of AFSC; 
development of ICBM 
InterviewerHugh N. Ahmann 
Date of Interview: 30 October 1982 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 169 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1356 
Location: AFHRA 

Monohan, COL George L., Jr. 

Air Force _ Air Forc e - European Systems Program Office 

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Subject: International Cooperation - Air Force 

Contents: ESPO charter, organization and mission; problems of tooling 

procurement; contacts with European governments; primary function 
of coordination; ESPO's relationship with Contract Administrative 
Services, Europe; lessons learned from similar organizations; roles 
of F-16 

Biography: First Director of ESPO 
Interview Coverage: 1975-1976 
Interviewer: Walter L. Kraus 
Date of Interview: 11 February 1976 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 21 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 907 
Location: AFHRA 

Mooney, RADM John Bradford 

Navy Navy - Office of Naval Research 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of the dis-establishment of NAVMAT and the 

establishment of SPAWAR, with remarks about why Navy labs 
were moved to the control of the Office of the Chief of Naval 
Research and not the systems commands; discussion of the funding 
and roles of university laboratories; evaluation of the effectiveness of 
the R&D centers and the Director of Naval Laboratories (DNL) 
under the CNR, with comments about the move of the labs from the 
control of the CNR to SPAWAR and the rationale for the move; 
discussion of the management problems encountered by VADM 
Clark when he went from SPO to SPAWAR; assessment of the 
CNR's effectiveness dealing with the problems of R&D centers and 
relationships between the labs/R&D centers and the Office of the 
CNR 

Biography: Chief of Naval Research and Chief of Naval Technology, 

1983-1987 

Interview Coverage: 1980s 
Interviewer:D r. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 17 April 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 28 
Location: DTRC 

Moore, LTG Joseph H. 

Air Force 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: Aircraft used in early years of Vietnam War; TFX (Tactical Fighter 
Experimental), later known as F-l 11 aircraft 
Biography: Commander, Second Air Division, Vietnam, January 1964; Deputy 
Commander for Air Operations, Military Assistance Command, 
Vietnam, June 1965; Vice Commander, PACAF, July 1966; 


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Inspector General, USAF, 1967 
Interviewer: C PT Mark C. Cleary, USAF 
Date of Interview: 24-27 September 1984 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 271 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1611 
Location: AFHRA 

Moore, LTG Robert L. 

Army Army - Materiel Command 

Subject: Acquisition - Army 

Biography: DCG Research, Development, & Acquisition 
Date of Interview: 11 Feb 1985 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: review not complete; file availability to be determined 
Location: USAMC 

Moore, LTG Robert L. 

Army Army - Materiel Command 

Subject: Acquisition - Army 

Biography: DCG Research, Development, & Acquisition 
Date of Interview: 16 May 1985 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: review not complete; file availability to be determined 
Location: USAMC 

Moore, MG William G., Jr. 

Air Force Air Force - Military Airlift Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Airlift development, CONOPS and future; MAC versus TAC roles; 

shortage of materials-handling equipment; C-130; C-5; helicopters; 
VTOL aircraft; dedicated airlift concept; data control; 
computerization; in-country/out-country C-130 concept 
Interview Coverage: 1962-1970 
Interviewer: COL Louis P. Lindsay, USAF 
Date of Interview: 4 May 1970 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: SECRET/NOFORN. Corona Harvest 
Pages: 45 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 266 
Location: AFHRA 

Moran, VADM William 

Navy Navy - Test and Evaluation 

Subject: Acquisition - Navy 

Contents: Comments on relationships with the various Assistant Secretaries of 
the Navy for Research and Development (ASN R&D); changes in 
the relationship between the ASN (R&D) and OPNAV; comments 
about ADM Zumwalt's use of the CNO Executive Board; 
recollections of work at the Naval Ordnance Test Station; _ 

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comments about the Navy's success working with civilians; 
discussion of work at Director of the Office of RDT&E, including 
remarks about the need to increase interaction with the DCNM's 
Office, the Ordnance Systems Command's ability to respond to new 
requirements, and the management bureaucracy in Navy R&D 
Biography: Director of the Office of RDT&E 

Interview Coverage: 1960s-1975 
Interviewer:CAPT Robert L. Hansen 
Date of Interview: 1975 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 31 
Location: DTRC 

Moreell, ADM Ben 

Subject: Hoover Commission II (1953-55) 

Biography: Member, Hoover Commission II, 1953-1955 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 82 

Location: Hoover Library 

Morgan, MG Robert D. 

Army Army - Communications Electronics Command 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Army 

Contents: Experience as CECOM commander; MSE fielding; PEO concept; 
use of NDI 

Interviewer: Simchik, Strong 
Date of Interview: May 1987 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: File open to all 
Pages: 21 
Location: USAMC 

Morris, Thomas D. 

Hoover Commission II (1953-1955) 

Subject: Hoover Commission I (1947-49) 

Biography: Member, Hoover Commission I, 1947-1949; management analyst, 
consultant; Asst. Secretary of Defense, 1961-1964 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 14 

Location: Hoover Library, Stanford University 

Morris, Victor E. 

Air Force Air Force - Military Air Transport Service 

Subject: Operations and Maintenance - Air Force 

Contents: MATS; C-141 Lead-the-Force program; difficulties with C-141 kit 
concept; Minuteman missile modification; aerospace ground 
_ equipment logistics support ___ 

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Biography: Chief of jet aircraft branch responsible for maintenance engineering 
of C-5 and C-141 programs 

Interview Coverage: 1960-1972 
Interviewer: Walter L. Kraus 
Date of Interview: 23 May 1972 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 27 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 600 
Location: AFHRA 

Morton, Gary 

Navy Navy - Navy Laboratories 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of the impact of the Navy's laboratory reorganization, 

concludes that the changes had little effect on the R&D community; 
remarks about the role of block funding in increasing lab control 
over program formulation and execution; remarks about the 
importance of communication between R&D centers and the 
SYSCOMs; remarks about potential conflicts between R&D 
centers and program managers; observations about the positive 
effects of the laboratory reorganization 
Biography: Director of Navy Laboratories, 1984-1985 

Interview Coverage: 1970s-1980s 
Interviewer: Steven Boster 
Date of Interview: 5 September 1985 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 9 

Location: NWC; DTRC 
Morton, Gary 

Navy Navy - Navy Laboratories 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Detailed discussion of the dis-establishment of NAVMAT and the 
assignment of Navy labs to the Office of the Chief of Naval 
Research; discussion of interactions with superiors, politics of Naval 
Material Establishment, command structure over the DNL during 
interviewee's tenure as Director of Navy Laboratories; remarks 
about ideal organization for Navy laboratory community, 
relationships between R&D centers and SYSCOMs; effects of 
NAVMAT dis-establishment on Navy lab and R&D community 
(suggests that the R&D centers now embody the only technical 
competence of the Systems Commands) 

Biography: Director of Navy Laboratories, 1984-1985 
Interview Coverage: 1980s 
Interviewer :Dr. David K. Allison 

Date of Interview: 20 December 1985; 27 December 1985 
Length of Interview: 5 tapes 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 


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Location: DTRC 


Morton, Gary 

Navy Navy - Navy Laboratories 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of the dis-establishment of NAVMAT and the 
establishment of SPAWAR; discussion of the genesis of the 
SPAWAR concept and the notion of warfare integration; comments 
on Secretary of the Navy Lehman's motivations regarding the 
dis-establishment of NAVMAT; details of difficulties that arose 
between the Assistant Secretary of the Navy for Research, 
Engineering, and Systems (ASN/RES) and the Director of Navy 
Laboratories (DNL); discussion of the politics of WSA&E, 
integration challenges; conflicts between SYSCOMs and R&D 
centers; discussion of funding issues within SPAWAR; details of the 
administrative, bureaucratic, and political relationships among labs, 
R&D centers, SYSCOMs, and DNL 
Biography: Director of Navy Laboratories, 1984-1985 

Interview Coverage: 1980s 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 22 February 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 45 
Location: DTRC 

Mowery, COL James L. 

Army Army - Aviation and Missile Command 

Subject: Aviation - Army 

Contents: End of tour interview, Directorate of Evaluation and Standardization 

Interviewer: Dr. James W. Williams 

Date of Interview: 15 March 2000 

Length of Interview: 35 min. tape+notes 

Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 

Access Information: Open; filed alpha in file cabinet, 870-5.4000 series 
Location: AABHO 

Mowery, COL James L. 

Army Army - Aviation and Missile Command 

Subject: Aviation - Army 

Contents: Employment/deployment/criticism of AH-64 Apache 

Interviewer:Di. James W. Wiliams 

Date of Interview: 29 July 1999 

Length of Interview: 40 min. tape+notes 

Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 

Access Information: Open; filed alpha in file cabinet, 870-5.4000 series 
Location: AABHO 


Mundell, LTG Lewis L. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Biography: Commander, San Antonio Air Materiel Area; Commander, 
Oklahoma City Air Materiel Area; Vice Commander, AFLC, 
August 1965; Interim Commander, AFLC, February-March 1968 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1970 
Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 31 October - 1 November 1979 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 220 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1177 
Location: AFHRA 

Mundy, LTG George W. 

Air Force Air Force - Acceptance and Inspection Board 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: funding; procurement; use of flyaway kits in Far East; procedures 
for overhauling aircraft; efforts to upgrade ICAF 
Biography: Air Force head of Acceptance and Inspection Board for bomber 
aircraft 

Interviewer: CVT Mark C. Cleary, USAF 
Date of Interview: 25 September 1984 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 199 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1610 
Location: AFHRA 

Murray, Peter R. 

Air Force Air Force - Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Inputs to Exploratory Development Laboratories; Project 

FORECAST; lack of close air support system development in Air 
Force; emphasis on strategic weapons in Air Force CONOPS and 
doctrine; research and development at AFSC; Wild Weasel; 
laser-guided bombs; Skybolt missile; cold-thrust augmentation; 
comparison of Russian and U.S. research and development; 
increase in systems analysis in 1960s; DoD Reorganization Act of 
1958; F-15 development; C-5A development; gunship and close air 
support system development; procurement procedures; AFSC and 
NASA; MITRE Corporation; SAGE system; AFSC leadership 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1973 
Interviewer: Hugh N. Ahmann 
Date of Interview: 10-11 July 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Permission required from interviewee to cite or quote 
Pages: 260 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 679 
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Murray, Peter R. 

Air Force Air Force - Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Concurrency; commonality; "fly before buy;" working relationship 
with AFSC general officers 
Biography: Acting Director of Laboratories, AFSC 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1973 

Interviewer: MAJ Ralph A. Rowley, USAF, Dr. James C. Hasdorff and Hugh 
Date of Interview: 28 February 1973 
Length of Interview: 1:30 hours 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 

Access Information: Permission required from interviewee to cite or quote 
Finding Aids: AFHRA 661 
Location: AFHRA 

Murray, Russell II 

OSD Program Analysis & Evaluation 

Subject: Research and Development - OSD 

Contents: Charter of the Systems Analysis organization; personalities; working relations 
with Secretary of Defense Harold Brown and then-USD (Research and 
Engineering) William Perry; Operational Test and Evaluation; working relations 
with deputy secretaries; the need for and resistance to testing; working relations 
with David Packard; costing and the CAIG; C-5; B-l; MX missiles; systems 
analysis methodology in the services (especially the Navy); Admiral Hyman 
Rickover; F- 111; acquisition decision-making in the Carter administration; 
Eugene Fubini; Center for Naval Analyses (CNA); requirements 

Biography: ASD (Program Analysis & Evaluation), 1977-1981 

Interview Coverage: 1970s-1980s 
Interviewer: Walton S. Moody 
Date of Interview: 10 June 2004 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper/Electronic; Tape - Audio 
Access Information: Pending 
Pages: 46 
Location: DAHP 

Myers, Charles E., Jr. 

Air Force Aerocounsel 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Biography: President of Aerocounsel, consulting firm for government and 

aerospace industry with primary interest in tactical air research and 
development; flying qualities of fighter and attack planes; 
contributions of CPT John Boyd’s energy maneuverability charts; 

F-4 limitations; F-X concept and design 
Interview Coverage: 1973 
Interviewer: Jacob Neufeld 
Date of Interview: 18 June 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Permission required from interviewee to cite or quote 
Pages: 59 ____ 

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Finding Aids: AFHRA 971 
Location: AFHRA 


Myers, Ralph 
Navy 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Navy 

Contents: Description of career and interviewee's involvement with NEMO, 
Sealab, SUBROC, and ASROC programs; discussion of 
SUBROC and ASROC testing off San Clemente Island, Sealab 
accident in which a diver died; discussion of working with the Navy 
acquisition and contracting process, remarks about changes in these 
areas during interviewee’s career 
Interview Coverage: 1970s-1980s 
Interviewer: Dr. Mark Jacobsen 
Date of Interview: 22 May 1986 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 20 
Location: NOSC 

Nelson, COL Janies T., Jr. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Logistics Plans Division, Directorate of Logistics; concepts, policies 
and procedures for Vietnamization Logistics program; execution of 
Enhance Plus program in October 1972, which called for delivery of 
massive amounts of materiel to Vietnam Air Force by December 
1972; concepts behind employment of contractors to support 
Vietnamization; logistics computer problems; VNAF aircraft 
maintenance problems; VNAF airlift capability; VNAF supply 
system effectiveness 

Biography: Director, Air Force Division, Defense Attach^ Office, Saigon, 
Vietnam 

Interview Coverage: 1972-1973 
Interviewer: CPT Thomas des Brisay, USAF 
Date of Interview: 28 October 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: CONFIDENTIAL 
Pages: 44 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 870 
Location: AFHRA 

Neville, COL A.P., Jr. 

Air Force Air Force - Aerospace Guidance/Meteorology 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: RF-15 aircraft; RB-26 aircraft; F-4 aircraft; AGMC; 

"Racker-Stacker" problems, particularly concerning procurement 
Biography: Vice Commander, tactical fighter wing, Thailand, 1969; 

Commander, 354th Tactical Fighter Wing, Kunsan AB, Korea, 


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1969; Fourth Commander of AGMC, 1972-1975 
Interviewer: George W. Bradley 
Date of Interview: 13 August 1981 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 39 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1306 
Location: AFHRA 

Nichols, Kenneth D. 

OSD OSD - Secretary of Defense 

Subject: Research and Development 

Contents: Nichol's appointment to the AEC; civilian-military custody battle 
over atomic weapons and power; creation of Guided Missiles 
Project within OSD; Berlin Crisis and Korean War spark interest in 
long-range ballistic missiles; military satellite program initiated under 
Aristide VonGrosau, subsequent termination; military industrial 
complex remarks 

Biography: Chief of the Armed Forces Special Weapons Project; Deputy 

Director for Guided Missiles in the Office of the Secretary of the 
Defense, 1950-1953; General Manager of the AEC, 1953-1955 
Interview Coverage: 1948-1955 
Date of Interview: 1967 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: written permission required to quote, cite, or reproduce 

Pages: 100 

Finding Aids: OH 262 

Location: Eisenhower Library 

Nitze, Paul H. 

OSD OSD - Deputy Secretary of Defense 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - OSD 

Biography: Deputy Director, Office of International Trade Policy, U.S. 

Department of State, 1946; Deputy to Assistant Secretary of State 
for Economic Affairs, U.S. Department of State, 1948; Deputy 
Director, Policy Planning Staff, U.S. State Department, 1949; 
Director, Policy Planning Staff, U.S. State Department, 1950; 
Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs, 
1961-1963; Secretary of Navy, 1963-1967; Deputy Secretary of 
Defense, 1967-1969 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1953 

Interviewer: LTC John N. Dick, Jr., USAF, and Dr. James C. Hasdorff, USAF 
Date of Interview: 25-28 October 1977; 19-21 May and 14-16 July 1981 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 506 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 977 
Location: AFHRA 


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Norstad, GEN Lauris 

Air Force Air Force - Strategic Air Command 

Subject: Operations and Maintenance - Air Force 

Contents: NATO command; GEN H.H. Arnold's advisory council; GEN 
Lemnitzer; LeMay’s succession of Kenney as CINCSAC; 
Vandenberg's leadership; B-36 controversy; comparison between 
White and Twining leadership; refusal of job as Chief of Staff, 
USAF 

Interviewer:Dr. Edgar F. Puryear, Jr. 

Date of Interview: 22 August 1977 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 11 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1473 
Location: AFHRA 

Northrup, Doyle L. 

Air Force Air Force - Technical Applications Center 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: Dr. Werner von Braun; German acoustic torpedo; first U.S. Navy 
acoustic torpedo testing range; transfer to USAF to perform nuclear 
detonation detection; background and history of AFT AC; 

Sandstone tests; AFT AC budget problems; mission of AFTAC; 
breakthroughs in nuclear detection 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1973 
Interviewer: LTC Lyn R. Officer, USAF 
Date of Interview: 24 July 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Permission required from interviewee to cite or quote 
Pages: 107 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 685 
Location: AFHRA 

Novick, David 

Air Force RAND 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: RAND career; strategic bombardment and economics; offensive 
bomber study USAF contract; Curtis LeMay; USAF approach to 
acquisition cost analysis; development of life cycle cost concept; 
relationship between cost analysis and systems analysis; 
Peck-Scherer Harvard study on weapons acquisition 

Biography: RAND economist/analyst 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1960s 

Interviewer: Martin Collins 

Date of Interview: 24 February 1988; 20 June 1988 

Length of Interview: 3.25 hours 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 57 

Location: NASM 


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Nutt, Harold V. 

Navy Navy - David Taylor Research Center (DTRC) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of career and background; interest in aeronautical 

engineering; work at the Experimental Engineering Station (EES) in 
the late 1930s; work in industry during the war, work on captured 
equipment; comments on the post-WWII reduction in R&D force, 
work as Superintendent of the Internal Combustion Laboratory, 
early work with titanium; development of SDRVs that followed the 
loss of the THRESHER; work with the Vietnam Laboratory 
Assistance Program (VLAP) in research and management 
Interview Coverage: 1940s-1970s 
Interviewer :Dr. David K. Allison 
Date of Interview: 22 October 1982; 4 November 1982 
Length of Interview: 1 tapes 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 125 
Location: DTRC 


O'Connor, LTG Edmund F. 

Air Force 

Subject: Procurement - Air Force 

Contents: Changes in Air Force during career; reduced production of Air 

Force equipment; problem of maintaining adequate fighting force; 
reasons why military hardware is expensive; replacement of retiring 
Air Force management cadre; need for greater delegation of 
authority within management; need for sophisticated weapon 
systems; effects of rising costs and diminished resources on Air 
Force. 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1973 

Interviewer: Martin J. Miller, Jr., and Joseph A. Ventolo, Jr. 

Date of Interview: 5 August 1975 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Pages: 19 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 684 

Location: AFHRA 


Oestreicher, Dr. Hans L. 

Air Force 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Computer development and modeling; computer simulation and 
interaction of laws of mechanics; bionics; use of computers in 
command and control decisions; future military 
applications of information processing. 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1977 
Interviewer: John W. Bullard 
Date of Interview: 21 October 1977 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 



Pages: 25 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1100 
Location: AFHRA 

Old, LTG Archie J. 

Air Force Air Force - Strategic Air Command 

Subject: Operations and Maintenance - Air Force 

Contents: GEN Curtis LeMay; evaluation of B-47; B-47 versus ICBM; 

evaluation of B-36; evaluation of B-52; KC-135 problems; MX 
weapon system; KC-10. 

Biography: Director of Operations, Strategic Air Command; Commander, 8th 
Air Force; Commander, 15th Air Force 
Interviewer: Hugh N. Ahmann 
Date of Interview: 26 October - 2 November 1982 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 582 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1357 
Location: AFHRA 

O'Neill, BG Malcolm R. 

Army Army - Laboratory Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Biography: Commander, LABCOM, DCS Tech Plan & Management 
Date of Interview: 15 November 1989 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: review not complete; file availability to be determined 
Location: USAMC 

O’Neill, BG Malcolm R. 

Army Army - Laboratory Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Biography: Commander, LABCOM, 1987-1989 

Interview Coverage: 1987-1989 
Date of Interview: May 1991 

Access Information: File open to bona fide researchers 
Location: USAMC 

O’Neill, BG Malcolm R. 

Army Army - Laboratory Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Biography: Commander, LABCOM, DCS Tech Plan & Management 

Date of Interview: 3 November 1989 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: review not complete; file availability to be determined 
Location: USAMC 

O’Neill, LTG John W. 

Air Force Air Force - Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Electronic Systems Division; creation of AFSC and AFLC; 


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research and development; C-5A; F-lll; Skybolt; U.S. missile 
defense efforts of 1950s and 1960s; AFSC response to war in 
Southeast Asia; research and development of helicopters; 
NASA-USAF cooperation. 

Biography: Chief, Guided Missiles Branch, HQ USAF, 1947-1950; Deputy 
Chief of Staff, Comptroller, Air Force Missile Test Center, 
1951-1954; Assistant Director of Programs, Deputy Chief of Staff, 
Operations, HQ US Air Forces in Europe, 1957-1958; Office of 
Director of Defense Research and Engineering, Office of Secretary 
of Defense, 1961-1964; Commander, Space and Missile Systems 
Organization, 1967-1969; Vice Commander, Air Force Systems 
Command, 1969-1972; retired September 1972; died 24 March 
1977, Miami, FL 
Interview Coverage: 1950-1973 
Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 15-18 May 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 276 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 673 
Location: AFHRA 

Opfell, LTC Ronald F. 

Air Force 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Introduction of munitions in Southeast Asia, 1968-1969; munitions 
improvements, deficiencies and performance; effectiveness of SEA 
Operational Requirement System. Update of AFHRA interview 
224. 

Biography: Munitions specialist. 

Interview Coverage: 1968-1969 

Interviewer: CPT John D. Reeves, USAF, and CPT R.G. Swenston, USAF 
Date of Interview: 8 June 1970 
Length of Interview: 2:13 hours 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 

Access Information: SECRET/NOFORN Corona Harvest. 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 286 
Location: AFHRA 

Oscar, Dr. Kenneth J. 

Army Army - Materiel Command 

Subject: Acquisition - Army 

Biography: Principal Deputy, Acquisition 
Date of Interview: 3 March 1995 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: review not complete; file availability to be determined 
Location: USAMC 


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Ostrander, MG Don R. 

Air Force 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: USAF missile development; rocket sled testing; organizational 
problems of Air Research and Development Command (ARDC); 
Office of Aerospace Research (OAR); contracting/procurement 
procedures; establishment of Scientific Advisory Group, OAR; 
Office of Scientific Research; need for R&D personnel to 
communicate with operational commands. 

Biography: One of first non-rated officers to command flying unit; one of first 
non-rated general officers 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1965 
Interviewer: Arthur K. Marmor 
Date of Interview: October 1965 
Length of Interview: 1:30 hours 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Finding Aids: AFHRA 782 
Location: AFHRA 

Pace, Frank, Jr. 

Army Army - Secretary 

Subject: Secretary - Army 

Biography: Secretary of the Army, 1950-1953 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Location: Truman Library 

Paige, LTG Emmett, Jr. 

Army Army - Information Systems Command 

Subject: Program Management - Army 

Biography: Exit interview; Commanding General, U.S. Army Information 
Systems Command, July 1984 - June 1988 

Interview Coverage: 1984-1988 

Date of Interview: 2 March 1988; 11 April 1988; 28 May 1988 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Location: USASC-FG 

Paige, LTG Emmett, Jr. (Ret.) 

OSD Assistant Secretary of Defense - C3I 

Subject: C4I - OSD 

Biography: Commanding General, U.S. Army Information Systems Command, 
July 1984 - June 1988; Assistant Secretary of Defense for 
Command, Control, Communications and Intelligence (ASD C3I) 
Interviewer: Carol E. Stokes 
Date of Interview: 17 September 1993 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Location: USASC-FG 


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Partridge, GEN Earle E. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Research and Development 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Biography: successively Deputy Commanding General and Commanding 
General, Eighth Air Force, 1945; Assistant Chief of Staff, 
Operations, HQ USAAF, 1946-1947; Director of Training and 
Requirements, HQ USAF, 1947-1948; Commander, Fifth Air 
Force, 1948-1951; Commander, Air Research and Development 
Command, 1951-1953; Commander, Far East Air Forces, 
1954-1955; Commander-in-Chief, Continental Air Defense 
Command and Air Defense Command, 1955-1959; retired July 
1959. 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1959 

Interviewer: Thomas A. Sturm and Hugh N. Ahmann 

Date of Interview: 23-25 April 1974 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Pages: 661 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 729 
Location: AFHRA 

Paschal 1, LTG Lee M. 

Air Force Defense Communications Agency 

Subject: Communications - Air Force 

Contents: Handling of leased communications procurement for Air Defense 
Command; semiautomatic ground equipment communications; 
development of Cheyenne Mountain complex; Defense 
Communications Agency, especially establishment of Defense 
Commercial Communications Office; Project Blue Sky (failed 
program to transfer funds electronically); automated management; 
relations with Atlantic Telephone & Telegraph; relations with 
International Business Machines; relations with Radio Corporation 
of America; automatic digital network; automatic voice switching 
network; efforts to centralize communications management; 

AW ACS; Defense Satellite Program; NATO Integrated 
Communications System; Scope Creek Program (field trials of 
technical equipment); military communications satellites; wisdom of 
direct SECDEF control of Defense Communications Agency. 
Interviewer: LTC Gerald T. Hager, USAF, Air War College, for USAF Oral 
Date of Interview: 27 December 1983 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 121 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1563 
Location: AFHRA 

Patton, Harold 

Navy Naval Ordnance Test Station (NOTS) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Recollections of early experiences as an early employee of NOTS, 
work on rocket projects; management career at NOTS, including 
w ork as the head of the Rocket Development Department; work 

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solving engineering problems in the field; discussion of technical 
problems and innovations of the 2-inch Gimlet; discussion of 
prevailing management philosophy at NOTS; work on Sidewinder 
program; comments on the transition from rocket development to 
guided missile research 
Interview Coverage: 1948-1970s 
Interviewer: Elizabeth Babcock 
Date of Interview: 4 September 1989 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 95 
Location: NWC 

Pauly, GEN John W. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Staff 

Subject: Procurement - Air Force 

Contents: Skybolt; SR-71; National War College; Minuteman; B-l; F-15; 
all-weather capability. 

Biography: Purchasing and contracting officer in postwar period 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1980 
Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 28-29 July 1981 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Pending 
Pages: 246 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1279 
Location: AFHRA 

Pehrson, Gordon 
Navy 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Recollections of program management concepts during involvement 
with the Polaris program; use of Program Evaluation Review 
Technique (PERT) 

Biography: Head, Plans and Projects Division of the Special Projects Office for 
Polaris 

Interview Coverage: 1950s-1960s 
Interviewer: unknown 
Date of Interview: February 1974 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 66 

Location: NWCM; USNA; USNI 

Peterson, COL Leonard R. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Contracts - Air Force 

Contents: Construction projects; function of Facilities Board; 2750th Air Base 
Wing (ABW); 2750th ABW Contracting Division; small business 


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office; awarding of contracts; 2750th Logistics Squadron; 2046th 
Communications Group; base utilities; communications technology; 
USAF Engineering Data Support Center; USAF Electronic Support 
Division; Dirty Dozen Projects (base projects awaiting completion); 
relations with HQ AFLC; future of Wright-Patterson AFB. 
Interviewer: Lois E. Walker, 2750th ABW History Office 
Date of Interview: 5 June, 27 June, 6 October 1984 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 236 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1713 
Location: AFHRA 

Phillips, GEN Samuel C. 

Air Force 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: 

Biography: Director, Minuteman ICBM Program, August 1959 - October 

1964. Director, Apollo Manned Lunar Landing Program, October 
1964 - September 1969. Commander, Space and Missile Systems 
Organization, Air Force Systems Command, September 1969 - 
August 1972. Director, National Security Agency/Central Security 
Service, August 1972-1973. Commander, Air Force Systems 
Command, 1973-September 1975. 

Interviewer: Richard H. Kohn 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Editor: Jacob Neufeld 

Title: "Reflections on Research and Development in the United States Air 
Force" 

Place of Publication: Washington DC 

Publisher: Center for Air Force History 
Date of Publication: 1993 

Phillips, MG James F. 

Air Force Air Force - Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Postwar guided missiles; abolition of R&D Board; Weapon 

Systems Evaluation Group (WSEG); Cambridge Research Center; 
in-house research and development; Project LINCOLN. 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1966 
Interviewer: Arthur K. Marmor 
Date of Interview: 24 June 1966 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 17 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 787 
Location: AFHRA 

Piehl, LTG Donald 

Army Army - Office of Assistant Secretary for RD&A 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Contents: Drawdown in 1990s; contract negotiations; military reformers; 


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Army roles and missions; R&D reorganization; ammunition plants; 

Bradley infantry fighting vehicle; helicopters; tank designs; DIVAD 
(Sergeant York); Patriot; equipping the soldier; decision to retire. 

Biography: Military Deputy, Assistant Secretary of the Army for Research, 

Development and Acquisition 
Interviewer: Dwight Oland 
Date of Interview: 21 April 1992 
Place of Interview: Sacramento, CA 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Piehl, LTG Donald 

Army Army - Office of Assistant Secretary for RD&A 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Contents: remarks about Packard Commission; Goldwater-Nichols Act; decentralization of 
acquisition management; managing acquisition; major Army systems 
of 1980s; relations with GEN Carl Vuono; relations with Congress. 

Biography: Military Deputy, Assistant Secretary of the Army for Research, 

Development and Acquisition 
Interviewer: Dwight Oland 
Date of Interview: 16 January 1991 
Place of Interview: Pentagon, Washington DC 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Piehl, LTG Donald 

Army Army - Office of Assistant Secretary for RD&A 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Contents: Description of duties; relations with Congress and Army staff; 
career in armor. 

Biography: Military Deputy, Assistant Secretary of the Army for Research, 

Development and Acquisition 
Interviewer: Dwight Oland 
Date of Interview: 18 October 1990 
Place of Interview: Washington DC 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Pinson, MG Earnest A. 

Air Force Air Force - Institute of Technology 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Nuclear physics; biophysics; Los Alamos Scientific Laboratory; 
human physiology of absorption, distribution and excretion of 
tritium; radiation dosimetry from nuclear explosions. 

Biography: Commandant, AFIT 
Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 8 December 1988 
Length of Interview: 5:00 hours 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Access Information: Pending 
Finding Aids: AFHRA 1853 
Location: AFHRA 


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Pittenger, RADM Richard 

Navy Navy - Space and Naval Warfare Systems 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of early anti-submarine warfare (ASW) research in 
NAVMAT in the ASW Program Office, PM-4; discussion of the 
dis-establishment of NAVMAT and establishment of SPAWAR; 
comments on the development of PD 80, formerly SPAWAR's 
ASW Program Directorate, and OP-71, the Office of the Chief of 
Naval Operations' Director of ASW Division; discussion of 
SPAWAR's interactions with the SYSCOMs; descriptions of 
problems with oversight and sea testing, ambiguities in the 
relationships between the ASW and WSA&E functions within 
SPAWAR 

Interview Coverage: 1980s 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 28 February 1990 
Length of Interview: 2 tapes 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 21 
Location: DTRC 

Plain, Dr. Gilbert 

Navy Naval Ordnance Test Station (NOTS) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of early career, move from MIT to NOTS; work on 
Aircraft Sights; comments about the start of the Sidewinder 
program, position as Head of Properties of Matter; discussion of 
NOTS/NWC commanders since 1949, comments about aspects of 
base operations; effects of Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), 
morale problems at NOTS 
Interview Coverage: 1940s-1960s 
Interviewer: Elizabeth Babcock 
Date of Interview: 9 December 1975 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 30 

Location: NWC; DTRC 

Plessett, Ernst 

Air Force RAND 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Relations between RAND and USAF, others; Technology 
Capabilities Panel; ICBM studies; Project Feedback 

Biography: Douglas Aircraft/RAND physicist 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1960s 
Interviewer: Martin Collins and Joseph Tartarewicz 
Date of Interview: 9 February 1988 
Length of Interview: 1.75 hours 

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Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 29 
Location: NASM 

Poe, GEN Bryce, II 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Lack of funds for peacetime operation stocks and war reserves; 

industrial capacity problems; declining industrial base; centralization 
of all consumables under Defense Logistics Agency; dangers of 
Air-Force contracting-out initiatives; impact of foreign military sales 
on support capability of USAF aircraft; congressional obstacles; 
contemporary airplane shortages; aircraft corrosion problems. 
Biography: Commander, Air Force Logistics Command 

Interview Coverage: 1978-1981 
Date of Interview: 12 March 1981 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 213 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1283 
Location: AFHRA 

Poe, GEN Bryce, II 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Vandenberg and missiles; signals intelligence (SIGINT). 

Biography: Commander, Air Force Logistics Command 
Interviewer: CPT Barry J. Anderson, USAF; 1LT Wayne D. Perry, USAF; Dr. 
Date of Interview: 4-6 November 1986; 18-19 June 1987; 8-10 June 1979 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Permission required from interviewee to cite or quote 
Pages: 224 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1729 
Location: AFHRA 

Pollard, Dale 

Army Army - Operations Support Command 

Subject: Logistics - Army 

Contents: Discussion of 56-year career in federal service; technology 

advancements at LCAAP; ammunition research and development; 
"Small Caliber Ammunition Modernization Program"; contractor 
history at LAACP 

Biography: Contracting Operations Officer, Lake City Army Ammunition Plant 
(LCAAP) 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1990s 

Interviewer: Thomas J. Slattery 

Date of Interview: 10 June 1997; 8 January 2000 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

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Pages: 20 

USAOSC 

Kenneth 

Naval Ordnance Test Station (NOTS) 

Program Management - Navy 

Discussion of first assignment at NOTS, problems with contractors 
for the Sidewinder Missile; relations with the Bureau of Weapons 
(BUWEPS); discussion of the development of the Sidewinder; 
differences between NOTS and NWC; description of 
NOTS/NWC's relationship with Navy people in Washington; 
remarks about the reasons for the success of the Sidewinder 
program 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1970s 
Interviewer: Elizabeth Babcock 
Date of Interview: 18 May 1981 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 34 

Location: NWC; DTRC; NHC 


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Prather, MG Thomas Levi Jr. 

Army Army - Materiel Command 

Subject: Acquisition - Army 

Biography: DCS Research, Development, & Acquisition 
Date of Interview: 11 April 1995 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: review not complete; file availability to be determined 
Location: USAMC 

Price, Don K., Jr. 

Hoover Commission II (1953-1955) 

Subject: Hoover Commission I (1947-49) 

Biography: Member, Hoover Commission I, 1947-1949; Dean, Graduate 
School of Public Administration, Harvard University; Director, 
SSRC, 1964-1969 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 32 

Location: Hoover Library 

Probus, Dr. James H. 

Navy Navy - Navy Laboratories 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of career and promotion of Director of Navy 

Laboratories (DNL); impression of Navy labs upon assuming DNL 
position; problems with program oriented funding; problems with 
implementing the systems approach; role of COs and TDs in 
program management; remarks about the selection of TDs; role of 

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laboratories in the DSARC-DNSARC process; ATOWG, NSAP, 
and the Corporate Plan, value of the DNL's military deputy 
Biography: Director of Navy Laboratories 
Interviewer: Dr. David K. Allison 
Date of Interview: 27 July 1983 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 47 
Location: DTRC 

Probus, Dr. James H. 

Navy Navy - Navy Laboratories 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of the Mk 48 Torpedo program; discussion of 

interviewee's professional background and previous assignments; 
discussion of how different roles and missions are assigned to Navy 
labs and R&D centers; comments about the Navy R&D 
reorganization in the early 1970s; remarks about relations among the 
labs, industry, and the SYSCOMs; lengthy discussion of strategic 
planning of the Navy's torpedo programs (light, medium, and 
heavy-weight torpedo development); technical discussion of 
torpedo development issues 
Biography: Director of Navy Laboratories 
Interviewer :Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 24 July 1989 
Length of Interview: 3 tapes 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Location: DTRC 

Probus, Dr. James H. 

Navy Navy - Navy Laboratories 

Subject: Acquisition - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of the dis-establishment of NAVMAT, effects of the 
Navy R&D reorganization of 1985 on Navy laboratories; 
acquisition program management remarks 
Biography: Director of Navy Laboratories 
Interviewer: Dr. David K. Allison 
Date of Interview: 20 June 1985 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 15 
Location: DTRC 

Putt, LTG Donald L. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Research and Development 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Early jet aircraft; Air Force establishment; Army Air Force/Air 

Force research and development; B-47 development; Air Research 
and Development Command (ARDC) establishment; U.S. versus 


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Soviet early missile development; Atlas missile; B-70 program 
cancellation; lack of long-range interceptor aircraft; total package 
procurement (TPP) contract methodology; Secretary of Defense 
Charles Wilson. 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1958 
Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 1-3 April 1974 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Permission required from interviewee to cite or quote 
Pages: 250 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 724 
Location: AFHRA 

Pyatt, Everett 

Navy Navy - Naval Material Command (NAVMAT) 

Subject: Acquisition - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of the establishment of SPAWAR and dis-establishment 
of NAVMAT; comments about the effectiveness of NAVELEX 
and NAVMAT, reasons for the establishment of SPAWAR; work 
of SPAWAR in WSA&E; opinion about placing WSA&E functions 
under the control of SYSCOMs; relationship between Assistant 
Secretary of the Navy (S&L) and the Office of the Chief of Naval 
Research 

Biography: Assistant Secretary of the Navy for Shipbuilding and Logistics 

Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 

Date of Interview: 21 May 1990 

Length of Interview: 1 tape 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 9 

Location: DTRC 

Quade, Edward 

Air Force RAND 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: career at RAND; role in preparing USAF strategic bomber studies; 

development of systems analysis at RAND; RAND and Wohlstetter 
studies; source of term 'systems analysis'; cost issues is systems 
analysis; impact of computer on systems analysis 

Biography: RAND mathematician/analyst 
Interview Coverage: 1940s-1960s 
Interviewer: Martin Collins 
Date of Interview: 18 February 1988 
Length of Interview: 3.5 hours 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 46 
Location: NASM 


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Quarles, Donald A. 

Air Force Air Force - Secretary 

Subject: Secretary - Air Force 

Biography: Secretary of the Air Force, 1955-1957 
Interview: Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Location: Eisenhower Library 

Raborn, ADM William F. 

Navy 

Subject: Acquisition - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of interviewee's role and work as Director of the Special 
Projects Division on the Polaris program 
Biography: Director of the Special Projects Division, Polaris Program 

Interview Coverage: 1950s-1960s 
Date of Interview: September 1972 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 71 

Location: NHC; NWCM; USNA; USNI 

Randolph, BG Bernard P. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Staff 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Biography: Deputy Chief of Staff for Research, Development and Acquisition, 
HQ USAF; Deputy Program Director/Program Director, Air Force 
Satellite Communications System. 

Interviewer: Jacob Neufeld 
Date of Interview: 8 July 1982 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 8 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1606 
Location: AFHRA 

Raney, Dr. William 

Navy Navy - Secretary 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Comments on the role of the National Research Council of the 

National Academy of Science in military R&D; role of the Director 
of Navy Laboratories (DNL) in dealing with the Sherwin Plan; 
discussion of the beginnings of the DNL/DLP and its first 
development in Navy R&D; introduction of the systems approach in 
lab operations 

Biography: Special Assistant to the Assistant Secretary of the Navy for 
Research and Development (ASN - R&D) 

Interview Coverage: 1950s-1960s 
Interviewer: Dr. Vincent Ponko 
Date of Interview: 29 November 1980 
Length of Interview: 3 tapes 


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Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 47 
Location: DTRC 

Rawlings, GEN Edwin W. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Materiel Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Settlement of wartime contracts; Comptroller School; B-36 
controversy; allocation of funds to services; Air Research and 
Development Command (ARDC) establishment; "Teapot 
Committee" and research and development; Project PAPER CLIP; 
GEN Schriever and Western Development Command; computers in 
Air Force; contracting methods for weapon systems; solid-fuel 
rockets; U-2; B-58 and SAC; ARDC. 

Biography: Commander, Air Material Command 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1972 
Interviewer: Hugh N. Ahmann 
Date of Interview: 18-19 June 1979 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 118 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1134 
Location: AFHRA 

Raymond, Arthur 

Air Force RAND 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Douglas Aircraft and RAND; NACA committees in the 1950s; 

USAF bombing studies; relations with USAF, others; NASA 
contracts 

Biography: Douglas Aircraft engineer; RAND engineer 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1960s 
Interviewer: Martin Collins 

Date of Interview: 25 July 1986; 9 January 1987; 25 July 1987 
Length of Interview: 6 hours 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: permission required to quote, cite or reproduce 
Pages: 84 
Location: NASM 

Reddell, MG William H. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Strategic Air Command; Air Command and Staff College (ACSC), 

Huntsville, AL; advanced logistics systems; impact of Vietnamization 
policy of 1970 on San Antonio Air Materiel Area (SAAMA); 
career and influence of GEN John D. Ryan. 

Biography: Commander, SAAMA, AFLC, Kelly AFB, TX, April 1969 - July 
1972 


Interviewer: Benedict D. Larosa 
Date of Interview: 1 November 1979 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 57 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1745 
Location: AFHRA 

Reed, Jerry 

Navy Navy - Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Navy 

Contents: Perceptions of NWC's role in the Navy and changes in that role; 

comments about Center relationships with headquarters and the 
Fleet; military-civilian relationships at the Center; changes in the T&E 
requirements and planning over the years; the advantages of 
competition in R&D 
Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig, IE 
Date of Interview: 13 July 1983 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: access limited 
Pages: 23 
Location: NWC 

Reed, Thomas C. 

Air Force Air Force - Secretary 

Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: Events leading to selection as Secretary of the Air Force in 1973; 
role of Secretary of the Air Force; evaluation of Project 
SANGUINE/SEAFARER antenna system for communications with 
submarines; review of Air Force contribution to national military 
command and control communications; trend of Secretaries of the 
Air Force having engineering backgrounds; maintenance backlog; 
Secretary of the Air Force (SAF) office staffing; access to 
Secretary of Defense; DoD policy disagreements; involvement with 
approval and procurement of new weapon systems; intercontinental 
ballistic missile (ICBM) modernization; Deputy Secretary of 
Defense Clements; problem of bureaucratic layering. 

Biography: Successively Assistant to the Secretary and Assistant Secretary of 
Defense, 1973-1974; Director of Telecommunications and 
Command and Control Systems, Department of Defense, 

1974-1975; Secretary of the Air Force, 1975-1976. 

Interview Coverage: 1973 

Interviewer: LTC Vaughn H. Gallacher, USAF, and Hugh N. Ahmann, USAF 
Date of Interview: 23 February 1977 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 78 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 944 
Location: AFHRA 

Reese, MG Thomas D. 

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Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Contents: End-of-tour interview; Army Materiel Command (AMC); 

MICOM; matrix management concept; SARDA. 

Biography: Deputy Commanding General for Research and Development, U.S. 
Army Missile Command (MICOM), 1982 - January 1985; 

Assistant Division Commander (Maneuver), 5th Infantry Division 
(Mechanized); Commander, MICOM, May 1986 - July 1988 
Interview Coverage: 1986-1988 
Interviewer: Michael E. Baker and Kaylene Hughes 
Date of Interview: 6 July 1988 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 12 

Location: USAAMCOM 


Reich, VADM Eli T. 

Navy Navy - Office of Naval Research (ONR) 

Subject: Acquisition - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of the organization of research and development within 
the Department of Defense and Department of the Navy after 
Sputnik; Navy community reaction to the creation of the OP-702 
organization (Research and Development Budget Coordination and 
Management); remarks about the early days of Navy RDT&E; 
description of the origin of the three-part and (later) six-part division 
of Navy R&D funding; interviewee's opinion of the overemphasis 
on research in the Navy, suggestion about the ideal way to set up a 
systems acquisition activity 

Biography: Director of the Surface Missile Systems Project; Deputy Assistant 
Secretary of Defense for Production, Engineering, and Acquisition 
Interview Coverage: 1950s-1975 
Interviewer: Booz, Allen and Hamilton 
Date of Interview: 10 February 1975 
Length of Interview: 1 tape 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Access Information: Open 
Location: DTRC 

Reich, VADM Eli T. 

Navy 

Subject: Acquisition - Navy 

Contents: Continuation of earlier interview; discussion of career post-1963; 

Talos Missile; Tartar Missile; Terrier Missile 
Biography: Director of the Surface Missile Systems Project; Deputy Assistant 
Secretary of Defense for Production, Engineering and Acquisition 
Interview Coverage: 1963-1978 
Interviewer: unknown 

Date of Interview: February 1979; January 1980 


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Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 681 

Location: USNA; USNI; NWCM 

Reich, VADM Eli T. 

Navy 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of naval career, submarine command during WWH; 

post-war command of the missile cruiser USS CANBERRA; work 
on investigative studies of Tartar, Terrier, and Talos missile 
programs 

Biography: Director of the Surface Missile Systems Project; Deputy Assistant 
Secretary of Defense for Production, Engineering, and Acquisition 
Interview Coverage: 1950s 
Interviewer: unknown 

Date of Interview: April 1978; January 1979 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 520 

Location: NHC; USNA; USNI; NWCM 

Rexroth, John 

Navy Navy - Bureau of Ordnance 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of work at BUORD as project officer; work on fire 
control project, work with contractors, target designation work. 
Research and Development Board; comments about navy support 
for applied research; Dr. Frank Tanczoz; adverse effect of Polaris 
on navy R&D programs; comments about the establishment of the 
Assistant Secretary of the Navy for Research and Development 
(ASN R&D); tenure as TD at BUWEPS; contact with Applied 
Physics Lab; discussion of negative impact of releasing labs from 
the bureaus and SYSCOMs; evaluations of Dr. Robert Frosch and 
Dr. William Raney as R&D leaders; comments about the impact of 
Robert S. McNamara on navy R&D procedures; problems faced 
by the navy in the 1970s. 

Biography: Navy BUORD Project Officer 
Interview Coverage: 1950s-1970s 
Interviewer: Dr. Vincent Ponko 
Date of Interview: 5 December 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 46 
Location: DTRC 

Rexroth, John 

Navy Navy - Bureau of Ordnance (BUORD) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of work as a project officer in BUORD; liaison work with 

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contractors and the Research and Development Board; remarks 
about support for applied research, and the adverse influence of the 
Polaris program and other projects 
Interviewer: Dr. Vincent Ponko 
Date of Interview: 5 December 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 46 
Location: DTRC 

Rhodarmer, MG Roger K. 

Air Force 

Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: F-15 aircraft development; conflict with Navy over F-14 aircraft. 

Interview Coverage: 1973 

Interviewer: Jacob Neufeld 

Date of Interview: 29 March 1973 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Pages: 36 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 972 
Location: AFHRA 

Rhodes, LTG George 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Centralized versus decentralized logistics; restructuring of Taiwanese 
Air Force logistics support; current Air Force Logistics Command 
activities; organic software capability; fixed-price 
contracting; need for more people who understand industrial side of 
logistics. 

Interviewer: LTC Michael Handerhan 
Date of Interview: 10 December 1984 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Pending 
Pages: 80 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1625 
Location: AFHRA 

Richardson, BG Robert C. Ill 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Effectiveness of Army Atomic Cannon; Air Force Systems 

Command (AFSC) and European technology; duties in AFSC; 
Advanced Research Project Agency (ARPA); AFSC's handling of 
operational requirements for all commands; R&D cost impact on 
model improvement and procurement. 

Biography: US Military Representative, European Defense Community, 

1954-1955; Military Representative, NATO Council, 1962-1964; 
Deputy Chief of Staff, Science and Technology, HQ Air Force 


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Systems Command, 1964-1966; Deputy Commander, Defense 
Atomic Support Agency, Joint Chiefs of Staff, 1967; retired August 
1967. 

Interviewer: Hugh N. Ahmann 
Date of Interview: 14 June 1983 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 211 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1560 
Location: AFHRA 

Rigby, MG Joseph W. 

Army Army - Missile Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Contents: Accessible via http://www.redstone.armv.mil/historv/oral/rigbv.htrnl 
Biography: Deputy Chief of Staff for Research, Development and Engineering, 
Headquarters, Army Materiel Command; Commanding General, 

U.S. Army Missile Command (MICOM), Redstone Arsenal, AL, 
July 1992 - June 1994 

Interview Coverage: 1992-1994 

Interviewer: Michael E. Baker and Claus R. Martel 

Date of Interview: 3 June 1994 

Interview Medium: Tape - Video 

Location: USAAMCOM 

Riggs, Leroy 

Navy Navy - Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of career in Navy RDT&E; reminiscences on programs 
including folding fin aircraft rockets, Shrike, HARM, Battu (Bat 
II)/Corvus, Ram, BOAR, Sidewinder, and NOTSNIK; material on 
Shrike program problems, including contractor difficulties; detailed 
information on the HARM program; discussion of the creation of the 
Naval Weapons Center from NOTS and NOLC; beginnings of the 
NOTS Project (NOTSNIK) satellite; comments about the 
"Freeman Era" at China Lake; discussion of the growth of 
electronic warfare research at NWC; comments about in-house 
versus industry development of technology 
Interview Coverage: 1950s-1970s 
Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig, HI 
Date of Interview: 18-29 June 1982 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: access limited 
Pages: 113 
Location: NWC 

Ritland, MG Osmond J. 

Air Force Air Force - Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Career in Air Force research and development; tests of over 200 


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different types of aircraft, including jets, P-59 and P-80; obstacles in 
development of ejection seat; role in development of extensive Air 
Force testing and training program; development of U-2; 
involvement in ballistic missile program; evaluation of Air Force 
research, development, contracting, procurement and management 
policies. 

Interviewer: LTC Lyn R. Officer, USAF 
Date of Interview: 19-21 March 1974 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 373 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 722 
Location: AFHRA 

Rogers, LTG Felix M. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Improvements in weapon systems acquisition; establishment of Air 
Force Acquisition Logistics Division (AFALD); increased expense 
of weapon systems; life-cycle costing; reliability improvement 
warranties; contractor versus organic maintenance; technology 
repair center concept; management problems associated with 
simultaneous introduction of F-16 into Air Force inventory and 
inventories of participating European governments; propulsion 
system problems; return of complete engine management to Air 
Force Systems Command (AFSC); Air Force weakness in business 
and logistics skills in terms of weapon systems management; Air 
Force Logistics Command combat readiness; war reserve 
materiel shortages; AFLC capability to support 30-day scenario; 
pacer readiness augmentation requirement and surge capabilities; 
micromanagement by higher levels; interservice cooperation in 
logistics arena and materiel distribution study; lessons learned from 
advanced logistics system experience; Project MAX; new logistics 
concepts brought about by E-3, F-16 and B-l aircraft; depot plant 
modernization program; status of management information system 
(MIS) computer; responsibilities in foreign military sales mission. 
Biography: Commander, 77th Fighter Group, Shaw AFB, SC; Intelligence Staff 
Officer, HQ USAF, Washington DC; Assistant Air Attache, 

Space, 1953-1957; Director of Secretariat, Air Force Council 
Designated System Command Management Group, Air Staff 
Board; Deputy Chief of Staff, Development Plans, Air Force 
Systems Command; Deputy Chief of Staff for Technical Training, 
HQ Air Training Command (ATC); Vice Commander, ATC; 
Commander, Air University; Commander, Air Force Logistics 
Command 

Interview Coverage: 1977 
Interviewer: Robert J. Smith 
Date of Interview: 20 December 1977 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Acce ss Information: SECRET _ 

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Pages: 707 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1037 
Location: AFHRA 

Rogers, LTG Felix M. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Biography: Commander, 77th Fighter Group, Shaw AFB, SC; Intelligence Staff 
Officer, HQ USAF, Washington DC; Assistant Air Attache, 

Space, 1953-1957; Director of Secretariat, Air Force Council 
Designated System Command Management Group, Air Staff 
Board; Deputy Chief of Staff, Development Plans, Air Force 
Systems Command; Deputy Chief of Staff for Technical Training, 
HQ Air Training Command (ATC); Vice Commander, ATC; 
Commander, Air University; Commander, Air Force Logistics 
Command 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1978 
Interviewer: MAJ Scottie S. Thompson, USAF 
Date of Interview: 1 August 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 338 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1194 
Location: AFHRA 

Rogers, LTG Felix M. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: TFX (F-l 11) aircraft; concept of prototype aircraft; aircraft 

development; advantages and disadvantages of F-l5 and F-l6 
aircraft; single- versus dual-engine aircraft; need for radar in aircraft; 
quality versus quantity in air-to-air warfare 

Biography: Commander, 77th Fighter Group, Shaw AFB, SC; Intelligence Staff 
Officer, HQ USAF, Washington DC; Assistant Air Attachd, 

Space, 1953-1957; Director of Secretariat, Air Force Council 
Designated System Command Management Group, Air Staff 
Board; Deputy Chief of Staff, Development Plans, Air Force 
Systems Command; Deputy Chief of Staff for Technical Training, 
HQ Air Training Command (ATC); Vice Commander, ATC; 
Commander, Air University; Commander, Air Force Logistics 
Command 

Interview Coverage: 1974 
Interviewer: Jacob Neufeld 
Date of Interview: 17-18 July 1984 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: SECRET 
Pages: 65 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 965 
Location: AFHRA 

Rowe, James H., Jr. 


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Hoover Commission II (1953-1955) 

Subject: Hoover Commission I (1947-49) 

Biography: Member, Hoover Commission II, 1948-1949 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 23 

Location: Hoover Library, Stanford University 

Rowntree, Dr. Robert F. 

Navy Navy - Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of career at NWC; early introduction to operations 

research; discussion of the establishment of the Navy Scientific and 
Technical Intelligence programs, including STILO; beginnings of the 
Joint Munitions Effectiveness Manuals; work on weapons 
requirements studies, nuclear weapons studies, planning and 
budgeting systems; detailed discussion of the origins, operations, 
and contributions of the Vietnam Laboratory Assistance Program 
(VLAP); discussion of block funding; discussion of the technology 
base funding bureaucracy and decline of tech work in the Navy. 
Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig, III 
Date of Interview: 7, 21 June 1989 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: access limited 
Pages: 119 
Location: NWC 

Rubery, Daniel J. 

Army Army - Aviation and Missile Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Contents: Accessible via 

http://www.redstone.armv.mil/history/oral/ruberv.html 
Biography: Deputy to the Commander for Business Management and Strategic 
Planning, U.S. Army Missile Command (MICOM), Redstone 
Arsenal, AL; Deputy to the Commander/Executive Director, 
Integrated Materiel Management Center, U.S. Army Aviation and 
Troop Command; Deputy to the Commanding General, U.S. Army 
Aviation and Missile Command (AMCOM), Redstone Arsenal, 

AL, August 1998 - June 2000 

Interview Coverage: 1998-2000 

Interviewer: Michael E. Baker and Claus R. Martel 

Date of Interview: 13 June 2000 

Interview Medium: Tape - Video 

Location: USAAMCOM 

Ruckner, RADM Edward A. 

Navy Navy - Bureau of Ordnance 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of Bureau of Ordnance (BUORD) objectives, 


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differences between BUORD work and work of other bureaus; 
discussion of lab evaluation process; discussion of contractor 
selection process; discussion of trends in BUORD work between 
1940-1948; discussion of how R&D money was secured; 
comments about BUORD's relationships with OPNAV, DCNO, 
ASN (R&D); discussion of major trends in Navy R&D between 
1958-1973; expansion of DDR&E staff; comments about the 
centralization of Navy labs into Centers. 

Biography: Assistant Chief for R&D, Bureau of Ordnance 

Date of Interview: 9 September 1974 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 87 

Location: DTRC 


Ruegg, LTG Robert G. 

Air Force - Air Staff 
Logistics - Air Force 

XF-80 aircraft (jet fighter); flying wing; XB-49 aircraft; X-l aircraft; 
test pilot BG C.E. "Chuck" Yeager; Alaskan Air Command; Air 
Research and Development Command; nuclear testing experiences; 
aircraft laboratory'; Industrial College of the Armed Forces; GEN 
B.A. Schriever; Dr. E. Teller; Dr. Von Neumann; missile 
procurement and spares programs; procurement policy; effects of 
closure of overseas depots on logistic support of systems; B-58 
aircraft research and development; B-70 aircraft research and 
development; C-47 aircraft; B-26 aircraft; T-28 aircraft; problems 
in F-l 11 aircraft development; Defense Supply Agency; C-5 
aircraft system development; F-5 aircraft system development; 

F-104 aircraft system development;; logistical support of materials 
for conflict in Southeast Asia; Navy's use of F-4, F-l 11 and A-7 
aircraft; Secretary of Defense M.R. Laird 
Biography: Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations, Alaskan Air Command; 

Senior Air Force Liaison Officer, Assistant Secretary of Defense for 
Research and Development, July 1954; Deputy Director of 
Procurement and Production, Deputy Chief of Staff for Materiel, 
USAF, November 1955; Deputy Director for Logistics, Joint 
Chiefs of Staff, November 1958; Deputy Chief of Staff for Systems 
and Logistics, October 1964; Commander, Alaskan Command, 
August 1969; Commander, Alaskan North American Aerospace 
Defense Command (NORAD) Region 
Interviewer: CPT Mark C. Cleary, USAF 
Date of Interview: 13-14 February 1984 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 195 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1571 


Air Force 

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Contents: 


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Rumpf, Richard 

Navy Navy - Space and Naval Warfare Systems 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of disestablishment of NAVMAT and creation of 
SPAWAR; comments about the effects of Dr. Colvard's "Haul 
Down" report on the transition from NAVMAT to SPAWAR; 
discussion of the rationale for transferring control of the R&D 
centers from OCNR to SPAWAR; details of funding issues that 
plagued SPAWAR activities; brief history of ASW integration in the 
ASW program office (PM-4) and reasons that NAVAIR and 
NAVSEA absorbed ASW functions from SPAWAR; details of the 
space concept developed in the Navy; discussion of the transfer of 
the Director of Navy Labs to control of ASN/RD&A, comparison 
with period during which time DNL was "double-hatted" under 
NAVMAT; elaboration on ongoing funding issues for WSA&E and 
pending changes in SPAWAR. 

Interview Coverage: 1960s-1980s 
Interviewer:!) r. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 23 April 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 28 
Location: DTRC 

Rumph, Ben 

Air Force RAND 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: RAND career; work on USAF experimental tail-less aircraft; 

assignment to develop an aviation fact-book for SecDef James 
Forrestal; USAF SAC study; air-refueling study 

Biography: RAND engineer 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1960s 

Interviewer: Martin Collins and Joseph Tartarewicz 

Date of Interview: 23 July 1987; 31 July 1987 

Length of Interview: A.15 hours 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: permission required for access 

Pages: 61 

Location: NASM 

Rushworth, Maj. Gen. Robert A. 

Air Force Air Force - Aeronautical Systems Division 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: F-80C Shooting Star; Directorate of Flight and All-Weather 
Testing, Wright Air Development Center and flight testing of 
automatic flight control systems; Manned Spacecraft Operations 
Branch, Air Force Flight Test Center, Edwards AFB, CA; F-101 
_ Voodoo; TF-102 Delta Dagger; X-15 rocket research aircraft; 

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Maverick program. 

Biography: Experimental Flight Test Officer, Fighter Operations Branch, 
Edwards AFB, CA; Assistant Director, Flight Test Operations, 
Fighter Operations Branch, Edwards AFB, CA; 

Assistant Deputy Commander for Operations, Cam Ranh AB, 
Republic of Vietnam; Commander, 4950th Test Wing, Aeronautical 
Systems Division, Wright-Patterson AFB, OH 
Interview Coverage: 1944-1971 
Interview er:Dx. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 14 April 1987 
Length of Interview: 5:40 hours 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Access Information: Pending 
Finding Aids: AFHRA 1746 
Location: AFHRA 

Rutherford, GEN Robert L. 

Air Force U.S. Transportation Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Discussion of career; mention of C-17 program; Global 
Transportation Network (GTN) project 
Biography: Commander-in Chief, USTRANSCOM and Commander, USAF 
AMC 

Interview Coverage: 1994-1996 

Interviewer: Dr. James K. Matthews and Mr. Robert Cossaboom 
Date of Interview: October 1996 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 

Title: General Robert L. Rutherford: Commander-in-Chief United States 
Transportation Command and Commander , Air Mobility Command 
Pages: 92 

Location: TRANSCOM 

Ryan, Gen. John D. 

Air Force Air Force - Chief of Staff 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: 

Biography: Commander, Biggs AFB, TX; Carswell AFB, TX; Director of 
Materiel, Offutt AFB, NE; Commander, 16th Air Force, Aviano 
AB, Italy; Air Force Inspector General, 1963-1964; Vice 
Commander in Chief/Commander in Chief, Strategic Air Command 
(SAC), Offutt AFB, NE, 1964-1967; Commander in Chief, Pacific 
Air Forces, Hickam AFB, HI, February 1967 - August 1968; Vice 
Chief of Staff, August 1968 - August 1969; Chief of Staff, U.S. Air 
Force, HQ USAF, Washington DC, August 1969-1973 
Interviewer ;Dr. Edgar F. Puryear, Jr. 

Date of Interview: 9 August 1979 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
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Finding Aids: AFHRA 1491 
Location: AFHRA 

Ryan, Gen. John D. 

Air Force Air Force - Chief of Staff 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: F- 111 testing in combat theater; munitions availability. 

Biography: Commander, Biggs AFB, TX; Carswell AFB, TX; Director of 
Materiel, Offutt AFB, NE; Commander, 16th Air Force, Aviano 
AB, Italy; Air Force Inspector General; Commander in Chief, 
Strategic Air Command (SAC), Offutt AFB, NE, 1964-1967; 
Commander in Chief, Pacific Air Forces, Hickam AFB, HI, 
1967-1968; Vice Chief of Staff/Chief of Staff, U.S. Air Force, HQ 
USAF, Washington DC, 1969-1973 

Interview Coverage: 1964-1971 

Interviewer:C ol. John E. Van Duyn and Maj. Richard Clement 
Date of Interview: 20 May 1971 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: SECRET/NOFORN; Corona Harvest 
Pages: 63 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 476 
Location: AFHRA 

Ryan, Gen. John D. 

Air Force Air Force - Chief of Staff 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Biography: Commander, Biggs AFB, TX; Carswell AFB, TX; Director of 
Materiel, Offutt AFB, NE; Commander, 16th Air Force, Aviano 
AB, Italy; Air Force Inspector General; Commander in Chief, 
Strategic Air Command (SAC), Offutt AFB, NE, 1964-1967; 
Commander in Chief, Pacific Air Forces, Hickam AFB, HI, 
1967-1968; Vice Chief of Staff/Chief of Staff, U.S. Air Force, HQ 
USAF, Washington DC, 1969-1973 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1973 
Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 15-17 May 1979 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 238 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1123 
Location: AFHRA 

Salter, Robert 

Air Force RAND 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: RAND Navy and USAF satellite studies; nuclear ramjet study for 
AEC; private and public support for R&D; RAND as program 
manager for early USAF satellite studies; work on Mass 
Reconnaissance System 

Biography: RAND engineer ______ 

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Interview Coverage: 1940s-1950s 

Interviewer: Martin Collins and Joseph Tartarewicz 

Date of Interview: 29 July 1986; 7 July 1987 

Length of Interview: 4.5 hours 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: use restrictions not established 

Pages: 69 

Location: NASM 

Scarbrough, Coffee and Robert, Steven 

Navy Navy - Space and Naval Warfare Systems 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Interview to gather information about the disestablishment of 

NAVMAT and establishment of SPAWAR; discussion of the role 
of Booz-Allen, Hamilton, Inc. in the 1981 reorganization of 
NAVELEX; discussion of the top-level people who were involved 
in the NAVELEX reorganization, details of problems with the 
implementation of transformation; remarks about funding problems 
that plagued the new organization; comments about the strengths of 
the reorganization and the reaction within NAVELEX to the 
transformation; impact of the 1981 reorganization on integrated 
systems engineering; discussion of Booz-Allen, Hamilton's role in the 
creation of the WSA&E function; role of Booz-Allen, Hamilton in 
the 1985-1986 reorganization of SPAWAR; comments on CDR 
Marvin Langston's involvement in WSA&E inception and the effect 
of the AEGIS program on WSA&E concepts; remarks on the 
effects of the Strategic Systems Program Office (SSPO) and 
VADM Glenwood Clark on the development of WSA&E, 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese and Alan Smith 
Date of Interview: 9, 17 May 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 67 
Location: DTRC 

Schick, RADM George 

Navy Navy - Space and Naval Warfare Systems 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of Schick’s role, as commander of NAVELEX, in the 
acquisition process; work in a previous reorganization at 
NAVELEX; description of Secretary Lehman's preference for 
vertical management; comments about the reaction of other systems 
commands to the placement of the WSA&E function within 
SPAWAR. 

Biography: Commander of NAVELEX 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 29 March 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
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Location: DTRC 


Schiefer, Gerald 

Navy Navy - Navy Laboratories 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Detailed discussion of the extensive research, development, test and 
evaluation (RDT&E) consolidation and closure program that took 
place after 1991; discussion of career, background, reason for 
selection to become DNL during this transitory period; remarks 
about relationships with commanding officer and technical directors 
at Navy research and development (R&D) centers; discussion of 
the role of the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD), Office of 
the Chief of Naval Operations (CNO), the Navy Secretariat, the 
R&D centers, the Navy engineering centers, the systems 
commands, and the DNL; speculation on the assignment of proper 
roles for the new full-spectrum centers, and whether a DNL position 
might be re-established in the future; comments on his major 
concerns regarding the new organization for Navy RDT&E, feelings 
about the consolidation, and the need for better corporate memory 
in the Navy. 

Biography: Director of Navy Labs (DNL), 1990-1991 

Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 

Date of Interview: 1 November 1991 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 34 

Location: DTRC 


Schirra, CAPT Walter M. 

Navy Navy - Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of work as Sidewinder test pilot between 1952-1954; 

comments on the value of the laboratory experience; discussion of 
the experimental officers he worked with (Moorer, Connolly, 
Walker); civilian-military relationship at China Lake; role of the 
Navy laboratories 

Biography: Test Pilot, Naval Weapons Center (China Lake), 1952-1954 

Interview Coverage: 1950s 
Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig 
Date of Interview: 26 June 1982 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 20 
Location: NWC 


Schnare, Clarence W. 

Air Force Air Force - Wright-Patterson Propulsion Laboratory 

Subject : Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Research and development on propulsion units for X-l, X-2, X-15, 
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Atlas, Titan series, Minuteman, BOMARC, Navajo, and various 
aircraft; research on liquid oxygen, hydrogen and other propellants; 
nuclear rockets, ramjets and ion rocket research; USAF R&D 
organizational problems; relationship with Defense Development 
Research and Engineering (DDR&E) and Advanced Research 
Projects Agency (ARPA). 

Biography: Chief, Propulsion Laboratory, Wright-Patterson AFB, 

OH/Edwards AFB, CA 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1972 
Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 5-6 August 1975 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Permission required from interviewee to cite or quote 
Pages: 304 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 863 
Location: AFHRA 

Schoman, Dr. Charles M. 

Navy Navy - David Taylor Research Center (DTRC) 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of the organization structure of the David Taylor Naval 
Ship Research and Development Center; discussion of work as 
Director of Plans and Programs; remarks about the Five Year 
Planning process and the work of Center committees. 

Biography: Director of Plans and Programs, David Taylor Naval Ship Research 
and Development Center 
Interviewer:Dr. David K. Allison 
Date of Interview: 26 July 1982 
Length of Interview: 1 tape; index 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Access Information: Open 
Location: DTRC 

Schriever, Bernard 

Air Force RAND 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Hap Arnold's establishment of USAF Scientific Liaison Office; 

establishment of Scientific Advisory Board, Joint Research and 
Development Board; objections within USAF to increased 
technology development role; RAND role in operational analysis; 
debate over strategic bombing technology directions; criticism of 
McNamara’s management of science and tech; Impact of JRDB; 

ICBM vs. IRBM debate; institutionalization of science and tech in USAF 
strategic planning 

Biography: USAF Scientific Liaison Office member; RAND engineer/manager 
Interview Coverage: 1940s-1960s 
Interviewer: Martin Collins 

Date of Interview: 18 May 1990; 5 September 1990 
Length of Interview: 3 hours 


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Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 38 
Location: NASM 

Schriever, GEN Bernard A. 

Air Force Air Force - Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Biography: Commander, ARDC/AFSC 
Interviewer: Richard H. Kohn 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Editor: Jacob Neufeld 

Title. Reflections on Research and Development in the United States Air 
Force" 

Place of Publication: Washington DC 
Publisher: Center for Air Force History 
Date of Publication: 1993 

Schriever, Gen. Bernard A. 

Air Force Air Force - Chief of Staff 

Subject: Procurement - Air Force 

Contents: Air Force missile program; relationships with Generals Twining, 
White, Vandenberg and Spaatz. 

Biography: Commander, Air Force Systems Command (AFSC); Air Force 
Chief of Staff, HQ USAF, Washington DC 
Interviewer: Dr. Edgar F. Puryear, Jr. 

Date of Interview: 29 June 1977 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 38 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1492 
Location: AFHRA 

Schriever, Gen. Bernard A. 

Air Force Air Force - Chief of Staff 

Subject: Procurement - Air Force 

Contents: Feasibility of long-range missile program in 1953; Snark program; 
Navajo program; solid propellant systems; concurrency as less 
expensive contracting system in missile procurement; contribution of 
German scientific personnel to missile program; guidance systems in 
early missile programs; interservice rivalry in missile program; 
reorganization of Air Research and Development Command 
(ARDC) and Air Materiel Command (AMC) into Air Force 
Systems Command (AFSC); opposition of Gen. Curtis E. LeMay 
to reorganization; criticism of C-5A procurement method; Robert S. 
McNamara as Secretary of Defense; Project FORECAST and its 
advocates; neglect of conventional weapons after World War II; 
gunship as the most effective weapon in Southeast Asia; rivalry 
between Air Force commands. 

Biography: Air Force Chief of Staff, HQ USAF, Washington DC 


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Interview Coverage: 1945-1970 

Interviewer: Maj. Lyn R. Officer (USAF) and Dr. James C. Hasdorff, USAF 
Date of Interview: 20 June 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 78 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 676 
Location: AFHRA 

Schriever, Gen. Bernard A. 

Air Force Strategic Defense Initiative Organization 

Subject: Ballistic Missile Defense 

Contents: GROUP INTERVIEW -- Other interviewed include Gen. Samuel 
C. Phillips, Dr. Ivan A. Getting, Lt. Gen. James H. Doolittle, and 
Gen. Robert T. Marsh 

Interview er.Dr. Richard Kohn and Dr. Hugh Ahmann 
Date of Interview: 14 June 1985 
Place of Interview: The Pentagon, Washington DC 
Location: BMDO History Office 

Schultz, Gen. Kenneth W. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Research and Development 

Subject: Procurement - Air Force 

Contents: Postwar assignment to Wright Field Aircraft Laboratory; problems 
with A-26; testing of planes for allies; support of U-2s and Keflavik; 
Gen. Bernard A. Schriever as Commander of Air Research and 
Development Center (ARDC); duties of Special Project Officers 
(SPOs); assistant for MOL; differences between Dyna-Soar 
and MOL; NAVSTAR; MIRV capability; Minuteman project; 

PEM; funding problems with contractors; consolidation of 
Ballistic Missile and Space Systems divisions; Titan; TRADEX; 
creation of Space and Missile Test Center; Ramo-Wooldridge 
Corporation; creation of TRW; problems with C-5; F-l 11 and 
guns; SAMSO; construction of MX missile; surveillance satellites; 
navigation satellites; inferior work done by contractors; maintenance 
and launch of older missiles. 

Interviewer: Lt. Col. Maurice Maryanow, USAF 
Date of Interview: 27-30 October 1986 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 327 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1728 
Location: AFHRA 

Schuyler, RADM Garret Lansing 

Navy Navy - Bureau of Ordnance 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of post-World War II research and a special board that 

he served on which settled disputes between different sections of the 
Bureau of Ordnance (BUORD); remarks about Dr. Thompson’s 
work at the Naval Proving Ground; remarks about other scientists 
serving at the Naval Proving Ground; discussion of the proximity 


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fuse and Eisenhower's military-industrial complex speech. 
Interview Coverage: 1940s-1960s 
Interviewer: Albert B. Christman 
Date of Interview: May 1969 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 27 

Location: NWC; DTRC 

Seamans, Dr. Robert C., Jr. 

Air Force Air Force - Secretary 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Association with National Advisory Committee on Aeronautics 
(NACA); relations with Dr. Jerome Hunsaker, Dr. Stark Draper, 
Hugh L. Dryden, James Doolittle; NACA missile efforts and 
operations at Goddard Space Flight Center, National Aeronautics 
and Space Administration (NASA), versus DOD space efforts; 
Atlas ICBM program; association between Massachusetts Institute 
of Technology (MIT) and NACA. 

Biography: Secretary of the Air Force 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1968 
Interviewer: Walter Bonney 
Date of Interview: 23 February 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Permission required from interviewee to cite or quote 
Pages: 21 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 866 
Location: AFHRA 

Seamans, Dr. Robert C., Jr. 

Air Force Air Force - Secretary 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Working relationship with other offices in Department of Defense; 
research, development and procurement of weapon systems, 
particularly C-5; F-15, vertical short take-off and landing (VSTOL) 
aircraft and electronic warfare devices; strategic and tactical 
weaponry; relations with Congress and White House. 

Biography: Secretary of the Air Force 

Interview Coverage: 1969-1973 

Interviewer:Col. Lyn R. Officer (USAF) and Hugh N. Ahmann 

Date of Interview: 24-27 September, 27 November 1973; 4 March 1974 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: SECRET 

Pages: 595 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 687 
Location: AFHRA 

Senter, Lt. Gen. William D. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Materiel Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force ___ 

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Contents: Air Weather Service; Oklahoma City AMA; relations with Gen. 

Mark E. Bradley; Air Materiel Command; DoD logistics policy. 
Biography: Commander, 43rd Weather Wing, Luzon, Philippines, September 
1945 - July 1946; Deputy Chief, Air Weather Service, Andrews 
AFB, MD, August 1950 - May 1954; Commander, Oklahoma City 
Air Materiel Area (AMA), Oklahoma City, OK, May 1954 - 
August 1957; Director of Procurement and Production, HQ Air 
Materiel Command, Wright-Patterson AFB, OH, August 1957 - 
August 1959; Deputy Chief of Staff for Materiel, HQ USAF, 
Washington DC, August 1959 - August 1963; Director of 
Petroleum Logistics Policy, Office of Assistant Secretary of Defense 
for Installations and Logistics, August 1963 - July 1966 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1966 
Interviewer: Lt. Col. Maurice Maryanow, USAF 
Date of Interview: 6-7 January 1986 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 267 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1692 
Location: AFHRA 

Sessums, Maj. Gen. John W. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Research and Development 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: AMC; National War College; ARDC. 

Biography: Assistant to Deputy Commander, Air Materiel Command (AMC), 
Wright-Patterson AFB, OH; Vice Deputy Chief of Staff for 
Research and Development/Chief of Air Staff for Research and 
Development, Engineering Division, AMC, Wright-Patterson AFB, 
OH; Deputy Director for Research and Development, HQ AMC, 
Wright-Patterson AFB, OH, 1949-1951; Deputy Commanding 
General/Director of Operations/Director of Development, Air 
Research and Development Command (ARDC), Baltimore, MD, 
1951-1952; Commander, 13th Air Force, Philippines, 1952-1953; 
Vice Commander/Acting Commander, ARDC, Baltimore, MD, 
1953-1957 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1959 
Interviewer: Hugh N. Ahmann 

Date of Interview: 25-28 July 1977, 26-31 March 1978 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 678 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 951 
Location: AFHRA 

Sewell, Robert G. 

Navy Vietnam Laboratory Assistance Program 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Comments and commentary on the Vietnam Laboratory Assistance 
Program (VLAP): how men were selected, how they traveled to 
Vietnam with lab equipment, technical support from NOTS; 
_ discussion of being a civilian in uniform; remarks about life at sea 

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and in Saigon; remarks about the Sidewinder and Walleye 
programs. 

Interviewer /Mickey Strang 
Date of Interview: 14 October 1975 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 27 

Location: NWC, DTRC; NHC 

Seymour, Dr. Harry R. 

Navy Naval Research Advisory Committee 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of Dr. Seymour's perception of the Naval Research 

Advisory Committee (NRAC); establishment of the Navy Personnel 
Research and Development Center; discussion of the merits of 
BUPERS and NAVMAT sponsorship; the accomplishments of 
NPDRC; personnel research programs of the 1950s; problems 
associated with justifying personnel R&D in relation to hardware 
R&D; impact of personnel R&D in the fleet. 

Biography: Navy Personnel Research and Development Center Liaison Officer 

Interviewer: Roger Kempler 

Date of Interview: 29 June 1982; 18 August 1982 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 27 

Location: NPDRC; DTRC 

Sharp, Dudley C. 

Air Force Air Force - Secretary 

Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: Office of Secretary of the Air Force. 

Biography: Special Consultant to Air Materiel Command (AMC), 

Wright-Patterson AFB, OH, 1954-1955; Assistant Secretary of the 
Air Force for Materiel, HQ USAF, Washington DC, 1955-1959; 
Under Secretary of the Air Force, HQ USAF, Washington DC, 
August-December 1959; became sixth Secretary of the Air Force, 
HQ USAF, Washington DC, December 1959 - January 1961 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1961 
Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 5-6 June 1979 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 144 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1128 
Location: AFHRA 

Sharp, Dudley C. 

Air Force Air Force - Secretary 

Subject: Procurement - Air Force 

Biography: Assistant Secretary for Material, 1955-1959; Undersecretary, 

1959, and Secretary, 1959-1961, of the Air Force 


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Interview Coverage: 1955-1961 
Date of Interview: 1969 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 68 

Finding Aids: OH 236 
Location: Eisenhower Library 

Sharp, Dudley C. 

Air Force Air Force - Secretary 

Subject: Procurement - Air Force 

Contents: Associations with Donald Quarles and James H. Douglas; U.S. Air 
Force (USAF) leadership in logistics; transition of Air Force into 
mixed aircraft-missile force; USAF-contractor relationship; 

"weapon system" concept; planning for future conflicts; USAF 
procurement; F-l 11 aircraft development; influence of Office of 
Secretary of Defense (OSD) and Congress on USAF procurement; 
single-manager concept; nonprofit corporations; military-industrial 
complex; relationship with USAF Chief of Staff; interservice rivalry; 
JCS failure to reach fundamental decisions; Secretary of Defense 
Thomas S. Gates, Jr.; OSD; massive retaliation/graduated 
responses; USAF limited war capability, 1950s; USAF 
counterinsurgency forces; manned bomber; B-70 development; 
nuclear aircraft; R&D funding; missile program management; 
USAF/National Aeronautics and Space Administration relationship. 
Biography: Special Consultant to Air Materiel Command (AMC), 

Wright-Patterson AFB, OH, 1954-1955; Assistant Secretary of the 
Air Force for Materiel, HQ USAF, Washington DC, 1955-1959; 
Under Secretary of the Air Force, HQ USAF, Washington DC, 
August-December 1959; became sixth Secretary of the Air Force, 
HQ USAF, Washington DC, December 1959 - January 1961 
Interview Coverage: 1955-1961 
Interviewer: Arthur K. Marmor 
Date of Interview: 29 May 1961 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 60 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 790 
Location: AFHRA 

Sharp, Dudley C. 

Air Force Air Force - Secretary 

Subject: Secretary - Air Force 

Biography: Secretary of the Air Force, 1959-1961 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Location: Eisenhower Library 

Sharp, Dudley C. 

Air Force Air Force - Secretary 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 


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Contents: managerial decision-making for Air Force research and 
development; need for increased R&D funding. 

Biography: Special Consultant to Air Materiel Command (AMC), 

Wright-Patterson AFB, OH, 1954-1955; Assistant Secretary of the 
Air Force for Materiel, HQ USAF, Washington DC, 1955-1959; 
Under Secretary of the Air Force, HQ USAF, Washington DC, 
August-December 1959; became sixth Secretary of the Air Force, 
HQ USAF, Washington DC, December 1959 - January 1961 
Interview Coverage: 1961 

Interviewer: Joseph W. Angell, Jr. and Dr. Alfred Goldberg 
Date of Interview: 19 January 1961 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 4 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 711 
Location: AFHRA 

Sherrill, Chester 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Avionics integrated support facility of operational flight program; 

computer programs for radar and central computer in F-15 Eagle 
fighter aircraft; computerized control of F-15 navigational data. 
Interviewer: Dr. Richard W. Iobst 
Date of Interview: 25 February 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 16 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1245 
Location: AFHRA 

Short, LTG Alonzo E. 

Army Defense Information Systems Agency 

Subject: Automation - DISA 

Biography: Commanding General, U.S. Army Information Systems Engineering 
Command, 1987-1988; Director, Defense Information Systems 
Agency, Alexandria, VA. 

Interviewer: Carol E. Stokes 
Date of Interview: 9 November 1993 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Location: USASC-FG 

Short, MG Alonzo E., Jr. 

Army Army - Information Systems Engineering Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Contents: Exit interview. 

Biography: Commanding General, U.S. Army Information Systems Engineering 
Command, 1987-1988 

Interview Coverage: 1987-1988 
Date of Interview: 21 October 1988 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 


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Shrader, Joseph 

Navy Navy - Space and Naval Warfare Systems 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of the disestablishment of NAVMAT and the 

establishment of SPAWAR and the shift from NAVELEX to 
SPAWAR; details the removal of platform-specific programs from 
SPAWAR, and SPAWAR's work on force-pervasive programs; 
discussion of the Systems Commands' preferences concerning the 
reorganization and redistribution of Navy R&D centers and how this 
effort was intended to improve Navy acquisition; discussion of 
systems commands' reaction of to block funding arrangements; 
assessment of the performance of Navy R&D centers since the 
SPAWAR transfer. 

Inter viewer:Tn. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 6 March 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 30 
Location: DTRC 

Shubert, Gustave 

Air Force RAND 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: RAND career; USAF Strategic Offenses Force Study (SOFS); 

recommendation to abandon systems engineering; RAND logistics 
department 

Biography: RAND manager 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1960s 

Interviewer: Martin Collins and Joseph Tartarewicz 

Date of Interview: 29 July 1986; 10 August 1988 

Length of Interview: 7.25 hours 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Infonnation: use restrictions not established 

Pages: 52 

Location: NASM 

Shugg, Carleton 

Defense Industry Electric Boat Company 
Subject: Acquisition - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of the work of the Electric Boat Company as a 

sub-system contractor and builder for the Polaris program; interview 
conducted by the Naval Historical Center Oral History Program 
Biography: President of the Electric Boat Company 

Interview Coverage: 1950s 
Date of Interview: November 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 25 

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Location: NHC; NWCM; USNA 

Skantze, General Lawrence A. 

Air Force Air Force Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Biography: Air Force Vice Chief of Staff, 1983; Commander, Air Force Systems Command, 
1984-1987. 

Interview Coverage: 1980s 

Interviewer: Andrew J. Butrica and Philip J. Shiman 

Date of Interview: 27 July 2001 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Pending 

Location: DAHP 


Slay, Gen. Alton D. 

Air Force 

Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: Gen. David C. Jones; B-70 aircraft problems; "ad hoc" management 
style; relationship between Gen. Curtis LeMay and Jones; 
relationship between Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara and 
Jones; Brown as Air Force Chief of Staff and Chairman of Joint 
Chiefs; direct quotes taken from interview dealing with generals 
Brown and Jones 

Interviewer :D r. Edgar F. Puryear, Jr. 

Date of Interview: 18 February 1981 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Pages: 144 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1496 

Location: AFHRA 

Smith, Bernard 

Navy Navy - Naval Weapons Laboratory 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Explanation of how DoD R&D facilities are managed and funded; 
discussion of the establishment of the Office of the Assistant 
Secretary of the Navy for R&D; cites Sidewinder as an example of 
a poorly-managed program - remarks on how foundational research 
money was misused; comments on bureau-lab dialogues; comments 
on the feelings within the Navy laboratory system when the labs 
came under the control of the CNM; discussion of the value of 
block funding for R&D programs as an improvement over specific 
grants 

Biography: Technical Director, Naval Weapons Laboratory (1964) 

Interview Coverage: 1950s-1960s 

Interviewer: Mrs. Susan Frutkin and Dr. Peter Brunton 

Date of Interview: 1974 

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Access Information: Open 
Pages: 120 

Location: NHC; DTRC 

Smith, Bernard 

Navy Naval Ordnance Laboratory (NOL) 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of Mr. Smith's early interest in rockets; appointment as 
Technical Director of the Naval Weapons Laboratory in 1964; 
opinion of the work being done at Dahlgren in the 1950s; comments 
about reorganizations and mission changes at Navy labs; effects 
civil rights legislation at Dahlgren; remarks about professional 
development, management training, significance of merger with 
NOL, White Oak, and other proposed lab/R&D mergers 
Biography: Technical Director, Naval Weapons Laboratory (1964) 

Interview Coverage: 1950s-1960s 
Interviewer: Cynthia Rouse 
Date of Interview: 8 June 1976 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 17 

Location: NSWC; DTRC 

Smith, Col. Elmer F. 

Air Force 

Subject: Procurement - Air Force 

Contents: President Harry S Truman; production and procurement at 
Wright-Patterson AFB and Pentagon; basic reasons for cost 
escalations and overruns; F-l 11 and C-5A problems; interview 
includes 42 photographs. 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1970 
Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 10-11 December 1974 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Permission from interviewee required to cite or quote 
Pages: 254 

Finding Aids: AFHRA818 
Location: AFHRA 

Smith, Dr. Howard C. 

Navy Vietnam Laboratory Assistance Program 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of the origins of the Vietnam Laboratory Assistance 

Program (VLAP); principles behind VLAP founding; discussion of 
working with the Air Force and Army on VLAP projects; remarks 
about the R&D administrative structure and the nature of the 
Pentagon bureaucracy. 

Interviewer: Glenn E. Bugos 
Date of Interview: 21 August 1985 

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Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 34 
Location: DTRC 

Smith, Dr. Howard C. 

Navy Navy - Navy Laboratories 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of civil-military relationships, formation of the Office of 
the Director of Navy Labs (DNL), DLP's; comments on financial 
controls of in-house laboratories, labs under DNL and the Navy 
bureaus; remarks about key people in Navy R&D, including Robert 
S. McNamara, Dr. Robert A. Frosch, Dr. Chalmers Sherwin; 
discussion of R&D organizational changes ; politicization of R&D 
under President Kennedy; role of DNL/DLP; description of the 
technical abilities of Navy R&D headquarters personnel; comments 
about decentralization of DoD under Secretary of Defense Laird 
Interviewer: Dr. Vincent Ponko 
Date of Interview: 16 September 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 34 
Location: DTRC 

Smith, Frederick L. 

Army Army - Operations Support Command 

Subject: Logistics - Army 

Contents: Industrial Operations Command transition; Government General 
Performance and Results Act of 1993 
Biography: Special Project Officer for Strategic Planning and Core XXI, 
Industrial Operations Command 

Interview Coverage: 1997 

Interviewer: Thomas J. Slattery 

Date of Interview: 14 February 1997 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open - printed and distributed 

Pages: 24 

Location: USAOSC 

Smith, VADM Levering 

Navy Navy - Naval Ordnance Test Station (NOTS) 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Recollections of career in naval ordnance; discussion of work at the 
Naval Ordnance Test Station (NOTS) between 1947 and 1954; 
reflections on his management of the Polaris system development; 
discussion of numerous China Lake programs, including the RAM 
6.5 inch anti-tank rocket, Mighty Mouse 2.75 inch folding-fin 
rocket, 5 inch liquid propellant aircraft rocket, and work for the 
Atomic Energy Commission at the Salt Wells Pilot Plant; comments 
on the challenges faced as a military officer in a civilian position at 

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Interview Coverage: 1947-1960s 
Interviewer: Elizabeth Babcock and Leroy L. Doig, Hi 
Date of Interview: 15 June 1989 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: some access restrictions (sensitive information) 

Pages: 75 
Location: NWC 

Snyder, RADM J.E., Jr. 

Navy Navy - Assistant Secretary for R&D 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Interview details the growth of Navy R&D during the 1960s; 

discussion of the role of Dr. James H. Wakelin, Assistant Secretary 
of the Navy for R&D; discussion of Wakelin's staff and budget, 
relations between the ASN (R&D) office and the Naval bureaus; 
problems encountered in laboratory management; efforts to 
strengthen the ASN (R&D)'s role in managing laboratories; 
comments on the establishment of the Director of Navy Labs and 
Navy Oceanographer positions; remarks about the relations 
between the ASN (R&D), DNL, and Oceanographer, observations 
about horizontal and vertical management 
Interview Coverage: 1960s 
Date of Interview: 23 December 1974 
Length of Interview: 1 tape 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Access Information: Open 
Location: DTRC 

Soper, Col. Ray E. 

Air Force Air Force - Ballistic Systems Division 

Subject: Guided Missiles - Air Force 

Contents: U.S. Air Force (USAF) Western Development Division (WDD); 

Gen. Bernard Schriever and WDD; decision-making in USAF 
research and development, 1950s; Gillette procedures; difficulties in 
WDD conceptual ideas; creation of Ballistic Systems Division; 
briefing of Congress and administration on ballistic missiles, 1955; 
establishment of missile accuracy figures and ensuing reports; lack of 
Air Staff belief in missiles as viable weapon systems; Project 
FORECAST designed to get Air Force back into airplane business. 
Interview Coverage: 1950-1966 
Interviewer: Harry C. Jordan 
Date of Interview: 29 November 1966 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 11 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 783 
Location: AFHRA 

Spagenburg, George 

Navy Navy - Bureau of Aeronautics 


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Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of background, work as a member of the evaluation 
division of the Bureau of Aeronautics; work at the Naval Aircraft 
Factory before and during WWEI; discussion of how design, testing 
and contracts were handled by BUAER and BUORD; discussion of 
the reorganization of BUAER in the 1950s and the introduction of 
operational requirements in the design process; remarks about the 
merger of BUORD and BUAER; details of Spagenburg's effort to 
write and implement instructions on how contract competitions 
should be conducted 

Biography: Member, Evaluation Division of Navy Bureau of Aeronautics 

Interviewer: Booz, Allen and Hamilton 

Date of Interview: 10 February 1975 

Length of Interview: 1 tape 

Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 

Location: DTRC 

Spillers, Col. William H. 

Air Force Air Force - Military Airlift Command 

Subject: Procurement - Air Force 

Contents: Military Air Transport Service C-141 program; testing; design; 
engineering; development panel; coordinating committee; 
operations; Lead the Force program; early failures; modifications; 
Category II programs; lessons learned from C-141 program; 
concurrency procurement; C-5 and C-141 weight reduction; 
comparison of C-5 and C-141 programs. 

Interview Coverage: 1959-1972 
Interviewer: Walter L. Kraus 
Date of Interview: 1 March 1972 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 53 

Finding Aids: AFHRA591 
Location: AFHRA 

Sprey, Pierre 

Air Force OSD - Office of the ASD for Systems Analysis 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: F-X (F-15) fighter; John Boyd and his work on energy 

maneuverability; need for lightweight fighter in place of F-15; A-X 
program, including A-7 and F-5; F-14/F-15 comparison; 
swing-wing versus fixed-wing controversy; problems with building 
multi-purpose planes, including F-105 and F- 111; issue of force 
structure as determinant in F-15 decision. 

Biography: Special Assistant to Assistant Secretary of Defense for Systems 

Analysis during Johnson and Nixon administrations; founded field of 
combat data/combat history-based cost effectiveness analysis for 
weapons; helped launch military reform movement of the 1980s that 
triggered passage of number of military reform laws; principal 
designer of the F-16 and A-10 aircraft. The latter were 

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used extensively in the final days of the crisis in Kosovo. In June 
1999, Lars-Erik Nelson, in the New York Daily News, credited 
Sprey’s design with demolishing Serb tank formations and helping to 
end the war. 

Interview Coverage: 1973 
Interviewer: Jacob Neufeld 
Date of Interview: 12 June 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Permission from interviewee required to cite or quote 
Pages: 52 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 969 
Location: AFHRA 


Stahr, Elvis, Jr. 

Army Army - Secretary 

Subject: Secretary - Army 

Biography: Secretary of the Army, 1961-1962 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Location: Kennedy Library 

Starling, GEN James D. 

Air Force U.S. Transportation Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Career discussion; national airlift issues; transportation problems 
with and outside DoD 

Biography: Deputy Commander-in-Chief, USTRANSCOM 

Interview Coverage: 1991-1993 
Interviewer: Dr. James K. Matthews 
Date of Interview: September 1993 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 

Title: Lieutenant General James D. Starling: Deputy Commander in Chief 
United States Transportation Command 
Pages: 60 

Location: TRANSCOM 

Stephenson, CAPT Paul D. 

Navy Navy - Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of career, tour at the Naval Weapons Center (NWC); 

military-civilian relationships at NWC; the navy RDT&E process; 
details of the HARM program and contracting problems, industry 
versus in-house development, Burrell Hays "firing" at the hands of 
Paisley 

Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig, III 
Date of Interview: 10 June 1986 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
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Access Information: access limited 
Pages: 36 
Location: NWC 

Stevenson, Maj. Gen. John D. 

Air Force 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Development of tactical nuclear force; roles of Dr. John von 
Neumann, Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer and Dr. Edward Teller; 
tactical nuclear force; problems in modifying fighters for nuclear 
force; selection of F-84G aircraft; selection of Swedish toss bomb 
computer; low-altitude bombing system development; Stevenson 
Plan of 1951 for flexibility of aircraft usage; success of Composite 
Air Strike Force in Lebanon crisis; pros and cons of union of 
Tactical Air Command and Strategic Air Command. 

Interview Coverage: 1950-1952 
Interviewer: Arthur K. Marmor 
Date of Interview: September 1966 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: For official use only 
Pages: 31 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 574 
Location: AFHRA 

Stever, Dr. Guyford H. 

Air Force Air Force - Chief Scientist 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Department of Aeronautical Engineering, Massachusetts Institute of 
Technology (MIT); JCS Guided Missile Committee; USAF 
Scientific Advisory Board. 

Biography: Executive Officer, Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) Guided Missile 

Committee, 1945-1948; member, USAF Scientific Advisory Board 
(SAB), 1947; Chief Scientist, USAF, HQ USAF, Washington, 

D.C., 1955-56; Vice Chair of SAB, 1956-1961; Chairman of SAB, 
1962-1968; recipient, President's Certificate of Merit, for guided 
missile work; recipient, USAF Exceptional Civilian Service Award, 
for tenure as Chief Scientist, USAF; recipient, DOD Distinguished 
Public Service Medal, following retirement as SAB Chairman; 
President, Carnegie Mellon University, 1965-1972; Director, 
National Science Foundation, 1972-1976; Chairman, Joint 
U.S.-USSR Commission on Science and Technology Cooperation, 
1973-1977; White House Science Advisor, Presidents Richard M. 
Nixon and Gerald R. Ford, 1973-1976. 

Interviewer: Michael H. Gorn 
Date of Interview: 10-20 April 1987 
Length of Interview: 5:00 hours 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Finding Aids: AFHRA 1752 
Location: AFHRA 


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Stoliker, Frederick N. 

Air Force 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: Early system of flight-testing aircraft consisted of eight phases; 

comparison with later system of three "categories;" relationship 
between test agency and system program office charged with overall 
procurement of new aircraft; role of contractor; why concurrency - 
testing and developing airplane after it has already entered 
production - failed as procurement system in case of C-5 and 
F-l 11; why use of aircraft prototypes has been revived; opinions on 
how present system of testing should be changed in order to 
improve it. 

Biography: Aviation engineer since 1950 

Interview Coverage: 1950-1976 
Interviewer: J.T. Bear 
Date of Interview: 16 November 1976 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: For official use only 
Pages: 37 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1101 
Location: AFHRA 

Stone, Dr. Harris B. 

Navy 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Interview part of Booz-Allen & Hamilton's review of Navy R&D 
management; discussion of leaving the Army lab systems to work 
for the Navy; remarks about the advantages of the Navy R&D 
systems and opportunities for in-house research (versus army 
opportunities); description of work coordinating the electronics 
warfare and intelligence research programs in ONR, reorganization 
that placed his group under CNO 
Interview Coverage: 1940s-1970s 
Interviewer: Booz-Allen and Hamilton 
Date of Interview: 28 November 1974 
Length of Interview: 1 tape; index 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Access Information: Open 
Location: DTRC 

Storey, Robert 

Hoover Commission II (1953-1955) 

Subject: Hoover Commission II (1953-55) 

Biography: Member, Hoover Commission n, 1953-1955 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 52 

Location: Hoover Library 


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Stringer, Col. William L. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Basis for Air Force Logistics Command involvement in 

international logistics; problems arising from foreign military sales 
; inability of AFLC to supply promised items in FMS; AFLC 
becoming supply and maintenance organization; F-l 11 maintenance 
by United States and Australia; U.S. Air Staff disagreement over 
control of international logistics; role of Military Assistance Advisory 
Groups (MAAGs); evading congressional edicts by use of 
Technical Assistance Field Teams (TAFTs); use of temporary duty 
in Vietnam to avoid Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara's 
policy decisions; problems providing collateral items (items required 
for something to work but not included with original purchase); 

Peace Log and Peace Hawk programs (major programs in Middle 
East); changed role of AFLC; AFLC personnel in Iran; F-l6s for 
Spain; logistics in Vietnam; Vietnamization of logistics; Enhance Plus 
(program of supply to South Vietnamese Air Force); Nickel Grass 
(supplies for Israel). 

Interview Coverage: 1976 
Interviewer: Joseph A. Ventolo 

Date of Interview: 1, 30 September 1976; 14 October 1976 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 70 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1106 
Location: AFHRA 

Stroscio, Dr. Michael A. 

Army Army - Materiel Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Biography: Chief Scientist, Army Research Office 
Date of Interview: 8 July 1997 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: review not complete; file availability to be determined 
Location: USAMC 


Strughold, Dr. Hubertus 

Air Force Air Force - Systems Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: USAAF Aeromedical Center, Heidelberg, Germany; USAF 
Aerospace Medical Division. 

Biography: Senior Scientist, U.S. Army Air Force (USAAF) Aeromedical 
Center, Heidelberg, Germany, 1945; Chief Scientist, Aerospace 
Medical Division, Air Force Systems Command, Brooks AFB, TX, 


1962 


Interview Coverage: 1945-1968 
Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorl t 
Date of Interview: 25 November 1974 


Length of Interview: 1:10 hours 
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Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Finding Aids: AFHRA816 
Location: AFHRA 

Stuckey, Norman J. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Pacer Web program (specialized basic ordering agreement, primary 
vehicle for repair of F-15 aircraft component and subsystems, with 
McDonnell Douglas Corporation). 

Interview Coverage: 1980 
Interviewer:Di. Richard W. Iobst 
Date of Interview: 7 October 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 21 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1257 
Location: AFHRA 

Sullivan, Shelby 

Navy Navy - Naval Ordnance Test Station (NOTS) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of personalities and programs of the Pasadena Annex of 
the Naval Ordnance Test Station (NOTS); comments about the 
reorganization of NOTS into the Naval Undersea Research and 
Development Center in 1967; comments about working for Dr. 
William B. McLean; description of work in electronics 
troubleshooting; discussion f work on Librascope Mk 5 fire-control 
computer system; work on Librascope Mk 3 fire control computer; 
recollections of involvement with NOTS torpedo research, Mark 44 
torpedo, ASROC, wet ASROC missile (WAM) 

Interviewer: Elizabeth Babcock 
Date of Interview: 25 January 1989 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: access restrictions - parts of interview may be classified 
Pages: 53 
Location: NWC 

Sunell, MG Robert J. 

Army Army - Tank-Automotive and Armaments 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Army 

Contents: Experience/Visions 
Biography: AFW Task Force 
Date of Interview: October 1987 
Access Information: File open and available 
Location: USAMC 

Sunell, MG Robert J. 

Army Army - Tank-Automotive and Armaments 

Subject: Acquisition - Army 

Contents: PM; Abrams Tank; management philosophy; acquisition system; 


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relationship with Congress; foreign military sales. 

Biography: PM, Abrams tank systems 
Interview Coverage: 1983-1986 
Date of Interview: October 1986 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 16 
Location: USAMC 

Sunell, MG Robert J. 

Army Army - Tank-Automotive and Armaments 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Army 

Interviewer: Steve E. Dietrich and Bruce R. Pimie 

Title: Developing the Armored Force: Experiences and Visions - An Interview 
with Maj. Gen. Robert J. Sunnell, USA Retired 
Date of Publication: 1989 

Swofford, Ralph P., Jr. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Materiel Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Elimination of George Washington program; Swofford-McNamara 
studies. 

Biography: Chief, Engineering Division, Air Materiel Command (AMC), Wright 
Field, OH; Deputy Commander, Air Research and Development 
Command (ARDC), Baltimore, MD; Commandant, USAF Institute 
of Technology; Director of Research and Development, Office of 
Deputy Chief of Staff for Development, HQ USAF, Washington, 
D.C.; Assistant Deputy Chief of Staff, Office of Deputy Chief of Staff 
for Development, HQ USAF, Washington DC; Vice Commander, 

Air University, Maxwell AFB, AL; Commander, Allied Forces 
Southern Europe; Commander, Air University, Maxwell AFB, AL 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1964 
Interviewer: Lt. Col. Arthur W. McCants, Jr., USAF 
Date of Interview: 24-25 April 1979 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 140 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1120 
Location: AFHRA 

Symington, Sen. Stuart 

Air Force Air Force - Secretary 

Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: Opposition from Army to separate Air Force; B-36 aircraft 

controversy; lack of logistics experience; "revolt of the admirals"; 
reasons for quitting as Air Force Secretary; Dwight D. Eisenhower's 
support for separate Air Force; selection of Gen. Hoyt S. 

Vandenberg as Air Force Chief of Staff; National Security Act of 
1947 as compromise. 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1948 
Interviewer: Hugh N. Ahmann 


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Date of Interview: 2 May 1978; October 1978 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 125 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1039 
Location: AFHRA 

Symington, W. Stuart 

Air Force Air Force - Secretary 

Subject: Secretary - Air Force 

Biography: Secretary of the Air Force, 1947-1950 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Location: Johnson Library 

Symington, W. Stuart 

Air Force Air Force - Secretary 

Subject: Secretary - Air Force 

Biography: Asst. Secretary of War for Air, 1946-1947; Secretary of the Air 
Force, 1947-1950 

Interview Coverage: 1947-1950 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Location: Truman Library 

Talkington, Howard R. 

Navy Navy - Naval Ordnance Test Station (NOTS) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of role of NOTS Pasadena in the Polaris underwater 
launch program; work on launch site preparations, installation of 
equipment; description of testing Polaris at San Clemente Island 
Interview er.Dr. Mark Jacobsen 
Date of Interview: November 1987 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 19 
Location: NOSC 

Tanham, George 

Air Force RAND 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: RAND career; work on Caltech Project Vista for Secretary of 
Defense; relationship of RAND to US AF; systems analysis 
Biography: RAND social scientist 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1960s 
Interviewer: Martin Collins 
Date of Interview: 19 August 1987 
Length of Interview: 1.5 hours 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

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Location: NASM 

Thomas, Charles 

Navy Navy - Secretary 

Subject: Procurement - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of appointment to position of Undersecretary of the 

Navy; working relationships between service secretaries and chiefs 
of staff; ADM Hyman Rickover and the nuclear submarine program; 
William Raborn and the Polaris program; Carl Vinson and nuclear 
fleet costs 

Biography: Undersecretary of the Navy, Jan.-Aug. 1953; Assistant Secretary 
of Defense for Supply and Logistics, 1953-1954; Secretary of the 
Navy, 1954-1957 

Interview Coverage: 1953-1957 
Date of Interview: 1976 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 65 

Finding Aids: OH 490 
Location: Eisenhower Library 

Thompson, Crawford C. 

Air Force RAND 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: RAND career; changes in USAF procurement regulations and 
effects of same on RAND; creation of Systems Development 
Corporation (SDC); TD5000 regulations; programming of SAGE 
computer; origins of Analytic Services (ANSER) 

Biography: RAND manager 

Interview Coverage: 1940s-1960s 

Interviewer: Martin Collins and Joseph Tartarewicz 

Date of Interview: 29 July 1987 

Length of Interview: 4.5 hours 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Pages: 67 

Location: NASM 

Tillotson, Col. James A. 

Air Force Air Force - Aerospace Guidance/Meteorology 

Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: Advantages/disadvantages of eliminating position of Vice 

Commander at Aerospace Guidance and Meteorology Center 
(AGMC) in 1980; relationship with leaders of Air Force Logistics 
Command ; AGMC relationship with contractors and role 
that each should play in providing weapon system components; 
changes in AGMC organizational structure; functions for which he 
was responsible; Precision Measurement Equipment Laboratory 


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Conference; AGMC Office of Assistant to the Commander for 
Quality Assurance. 

Biography: Vice Commander/Commander, Aerospace Guidance and 
Meteorology Center 
Interviewer: George W. Bradley 
Date of Interview: 19 January 1985 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 57 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1547 
Location: AFHRA 

Tino, John 

Navy Naval Ordnance Laboratory (NOL) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Interview related to the research of a history of the Mark 48 
torpedo; subject discusses career and background at the Naval 
Ordnance Lab (NOL), involvement with torpedo development; 
discusses the use of systems analysis in the Mark 48 program; the 
influence of ASW tactics on technology and vice versa; 
development of the Mark 48 from the NOL perspective, including 
remarks about the Clevite/Westinghouse competition, controversy 
over the number of Navy labs doing torpedo research; remarks 
about the removal of the Mark 48 program from NSWC to NUSC; 
reflections on the relations between OPNAV and the R&D centers 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 21 July 1989 
Length of Interview: 2 tapes 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Access Information: Open 
Location: DTRC 

Topping, RADM Robert 

Navy Navy - Space and Naval Warfare Systems 

Subject: Acquisition - Navy 

Contents: NAVMAT-SPAWAR interview; computers; computerization; 

discussion of connections between connectivity between space and 
undersea computing platforms; evaluation of the effects of next 
generation computer resource (NGCR) program on coordinating 
competing hardware and describes the standards and roles of 
computer systems in interconnectivity; discussion of contract 
development computer systems that follow emerging standards; 
remarks about recent improvements in operating systems; remarks 
about European allies joining U.S. military information sharing 
endeavors; discussion of improvements being made in civilian 
requirements for "ruggedization" and multi-level security of 
information systems; details the efforts of SPAWAR 32 regarding 
NGCR; evaluation of SPAWAR's WSA&E effectiveness 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 19 March 1990 


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Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 45 
Location: DTRC 

Towle, CAPT Bernard 
Navy 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Comments on career, background, and position in the Navy in the 
1950s; comments about pre-Director of Navy Labs (DNL) 
management; discussion of the introduction of the Sherwin Plan and 
Navy compromise plan for reorganization of labs - changes dictated 
by technology, SYSCOM resistance, and ADM Rivero's decision 
that military command of labs was not essential; comments on the 
first DNL; discussion of problems with selecting lab managers; 
effects of SECDEF McNamara on Navy R&D programs; 

DDR&E's influence on R&D 
Interview Coverage: 1950s-1960s 
Interviewer: Albert B. Christman 
Date of Interview: 14 March 1978 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 32 

Location: NWC; DTRC 

Towle, CAPT Bernard 
Navy 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of lab management under SECDEF McNamara; 
philosophies of different Navy bureaus; comments on the 
consolidation of the Bureau of Ordnance and the Bureau of 
Aeronautics; discussion of the establishment of the position of 
Director of Navy Lab (DNL); remarks about the influence of 
outside sources on R&D, including the Sherwin Plan, the Mansfield 
Amendment, the National Science Foundation, and congressional 
input; comments on problems in the use of labs, in decision making, 
and trends in top-level laboratory management 
Interviewer: Dr. Samuel Rothman, Dr. Peter Bruton, and Mrs. Susan Frutkin 
Date of Interview: 17 December 1974 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 54 
Location: DTRC 

Townsend, Brig. Gen. Guy M. 

Air Force 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: Experiences with Gen. Nathan Twining and other Air Force leaders; 
B-36, B-47 and B-52 bomber testing; interservice rivalry; B-51, 
B-58, B-70, C-5 F-80, KC-135 and Skybolt missile programs; 

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aircraft technology; B-52H flight testing; problems with XB-70 
aircraft; problems with C-5 aircraft; effect of Secretary of Defense 
Robert S. McNamara on Defense Department; advantages of 
manned bomber aircraft over unmanned missiles; effects of Skybolt 
cancellation on Royal Air Force; R&D funding; cancellation of B-l 
bomber program; Supersonic Transport (SST). 

Biography: Bomber test pilot for B-36, B-47 and B-52 aircraft 

Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 

Date of Interview: 12-13 July 1982 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Pages: 175 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1341 
Location: AFHRA 

Tragemann, MG Richard W. 

Army - Test and Evaluation Command 
Test and Evaluation - Army 

Overview of career in Artillery Branch; work as Project Officer in 
the Combined Arms Combat Development Activity at Fort 
Leavenworth; work in the Operations Analysis Group, use of 
Operations Research and Systems Analysis training; remarks about 
Soldier-Maintainer-Operator T&E (SMOT&E) personnel; 
comments about XM8 Armored Gun System (AGS); relations 
between labs and T&E elements, relations between army T&E, 
other services; TECOM testing of C-17 Globemaster HI; lack of 
effect of Federal Facilities Compliance Act on TECOM; work with 
AWEs, ATDs, and TRADOC Battle Labs; remarks about Vision 21 
study, DoD lab and T&E consolidation 
Biography: Commanding General, U.S. Army Test and Evaluation Command 
(TECOM); Commander, Aberdeen Proving Ground (APG), 
1993-1995; Chairman of the Department of Defense Board of 
Operating Directors for the Test and Evaluation (T&E) Executive 
Agent 

Interview Coverage: 1966-1996 

Interviewer: Dr. J. Britt McCarley 

Date of Interview: 6 October 1994 - 1996 

Place of Interview: Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open 

Title: Tested with the Best: An Oral History of MG Richard W. Tragemann , 
USA Retired 
Pages: 213 

Place of Publication: Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD 

Publisher: TECOM Command History Office 
Date of Publication: April 1997 

Location: TECOM 

Tremayne, William H. 

Grace Commission 


Army 

Subject: 
Contents: 


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Subject: Acquisition Reform 

Contents: Grace Commission; formation of the commission and Prudential Insurance’s 
role on task force; organization and operations of commission; industry and 
commercial models for government; project management; competition; career 
development and education for acquisition professionals; personalities 
Interviewer: Andrew J. Butrica 
Date of Interview: 8 July 2004 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper/Electronic 
Access Information: Open 
Pages: 67 
Location: DAHP 

Tremblay, Harold 

Navy Navy - Naval Air Development Center 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of the relationship between NADC and the University of 
Pennsylvania and subsequent creation of the Numerical Analysis 
Branch at NADC in 1953; reorganization of computer work at 
NADC in 1955 and 1956; remarks about the ambiguity of the 
"systems concept"; comments about the establishment of the 
Computer Lab at NADC; connections between computers and 
centrifuges; discussion of computer work in the 1960s and 
development of advanced software in the 1970s 
Interview Coverage: 1950s-1970s 
Interviewer: Tom Misa and Ed Todd 
Date of Interview: 20 July 1982 
Length of Interview: 1 tape 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Location: NADC; DTRC 

Tremblay, Harold 

Navy Navy - Naval Air Development Center 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of personal background and early NAMU work; work on 
V-2 missile studies, glider research, and early television projects; 
discussion of work on airborne video cameras; discussion of Project 
Typhoon; comments on relations with RCA; remarks about 
BUAER's role at NADC; discussion of Typhoon's construction as a 
vacuum tube computer; computing; computers 
Interviewer:^ ova Misa and Ed Todd 
Date of Interview: 6 July 1982 
Length of Interview: 1 tape 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Location: NADC; DTRC 

Trott, Col. Allen L., Jr. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: C-141B Stretch modification is technically simple addition of two 

fuselage sections and aerial refueling capa city; modification _ 

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controversial from its inception; responds to criticisms of C-141B 
and explains misconceptions about program; weight versus bulk 
cargo capacity debate; compares abilities of stretched C-141 and 
C-5. 

Biography: Began career as pilot; command experience in C-141s and C-5; 

retired as head of C-141 B Stretch Modification Office, Warner 
Robins Air Logistics Center, Warner Robins AFB, GA, 1979-1980 
Interview Coverage: 1951-1980 
Interviewer: Benjamin Vincent 
Date of Interview: 12 May 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 76 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1226 
Location: AFHRA 

Tumstall, Dr. Edward 

Navy Navy - Navy Laboratories 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Work as Director of Navy Labs (DNL); changes in SPAWAR that 
followed his assignment as DNL; role of Navy R&D centers, 
strengths and weaknesses, budgetary influence of SPAWAR on 
R&D centers; remarks about recent studies of the Navy's R&D 
effort; discussion of Navy work on SDI; discussion of Navy defense 
contract corruption, effects of Navy Audit Service and FBI 
investigations on SPAWAR 

Biography: Director of Navy Labs (DNL) 

Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 3 July 1989 
Length of Interview: 1 tape 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Location: DTRC 

Van Leeuwen, George H. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Base Supply Division, Hill AFB, UT; implementation of computer 
program for managing supply; creation of Directorate of Materiel 
Management, Hill AFB, UT; foreign military sales; Minuteman 
missile concept; closure of San Bernardino Air Materiel Area, CA; 
contract maintenance 
Interviewer: Dr. Roger D. Launius 
Date of Interview: 6, 13 February 1986 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 111 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1712 
Location: AFHRA 


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Van Orden, VADM Merton 

Nay y Nay al Electronic Systems Command (NAVELEX) 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of the reasons for the establishment of NAVELEX; 

comments about the importance of electronics to the Navy (and 
growing awareness of as much); work of NAVELEX on shore 
electtonics matters; discussion of RADM Schneider's effort to 
integrate the communications systems of the entire Navy and 
assessment of that attempt; RADM Van Orden's work as Program 
Manager for electronics at NAVELEX; discussion of the debate 
over horizontal versus vertical management; discussion of the 
mechanics of funding at NAVELEX 

Biography: Program Manager, Electronics, NAVELEX 

Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 

Date of Interview: 22 May 1990 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Pages: 31 

Location: DTRC 

Visco, Eugene 

Army Army - Aviation and Missile Command 

Subject: Aviation - Army 

Contents: Howze Board discussion; Use of operations analysis; ammunition 
interoperability (NATO and the M-16); application of classical 
analysis to large-scale, complex questions 
Interviewer :Dr. James W. Williams 
Date of Interview: 22 January 2000 
Length of Interview: 90 min. tape+notes 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 

Access Information: informal conversation notes and tape; no transcription 
Location: AABHO 

Wade, Gen. Horace M. 

Air Force Air Force - Vice Chief of Staff 

Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: U.S. Army Air Forces become USAF; USAF concepts and 

doctrines following World War U; Armed Forces Staff College; 
Gen. Curtis LeMay; engine problems on B-29s; emphasis on 
bombers in 1950s; B-36 aircraft; B-47 aircraft; National War 
College; B-58 aircraft; Strategic Air Command; Atlas 
intercontinental ballistic missile; Secretary of Defense Robert S. 
McNamara; President John F. Kennedy; Gen. David C. Jones; 

Gen. Robert Dixon; commonality of weapons; selection of Gen. 
George Brown as USAF Chief of Staff; Lt. Gen. John Lavelle; 
duties as USAF Vice Chief of Staff, Chief of Staff and Secretary of 
the Air Force; Secretary of the Air Force Harold Brown; total force 
concept; Project Corona Harvest. 

Biography: Commander, 4310th Air Division, Morocco; Assistant Deputy 
Chief of Staff for Plans, HQ USAF, Washington DC, 1962; 


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Deputy Chief of Staff for Plans, HQ USAF, Washington DC; Chief 
of Staff, Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe; USAF 
Vice Chief of Staff 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1978 
Interviewer: Hugh N. Ahmann 
Date of Interview: 10-12 October 1978 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: SECRET/NOFORN 
Pages: 589 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1105 
Location: AFHRA 

Wakelin, Dr. James H. 

Navy 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of R&D programs in the 1950s; discussion of the 

establishment of the Office of the Assistant Secretary of the Navy 
for Research and Development (ASN R&D); function of DDR&E 
as a pressure mechanism for ASN (R&D); discussion of the 
ONR-Blue Suit Navy relationship; remarks about management 
responsibilities for DDR&E appropriations and the need for a 
coherent R&D program; discussion of the Navy R&D planning 
system and program structure; remarks about improving lab 
operations; discussion of the creation of the Office of the Director of 
Navy Labs (DNL); role of the ASN (R&D) as a liaison between 
the Navy and DoD; remarks about the difficulty of attracting 
qualified technical people 

Interviewer:Dt. Peter Brunton; Mrs. Susan Frutkin; CAPT Robert L. Hansen 

Date of Interview: September 1974 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Pages: 110 

Location: DTRC 

Warren, Lt. Gen. Robert H. 

Air Force Air Force - Systems Command 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: Duties while in Office of Deputy Secretary of Defense; duties while 
assigned to Air Proving Ground; Gen. Joe Kelly; quality of testing at 
AF 

Interviewer: 1st Lt. Wayne D. Perry, USAF 
Date of Interview: 2-3 February 1988 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 116 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1788 
Location: AFHRA 

Waterman, Dr. Peter 
Navy 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 


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Contents: Discussion of the maintenance of Navy R&D facilities and 

programs; comments about cost effectiveness of programs, and 
Navy R&D, in general, from World War II to the present. 
Interviewer: unknown 
Date of Interview: 1974 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 32 

Location: NWC; DTRC; NHC 

Watkins, Maj. Gen. James H. 

Air Force Air Force - Office of Assistant for Atomic Energy 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Gen. Curtis LeMay; involvement in development of nuclear 
weapons; Defense Mapping Agency. 

Biography: Office of Assistant for Atomic Energy, HQ USAF, June 1950 - 
June 1954; retired 1973 
Interviewer: C ol. Carey A. Lovelace 
Date of Interview: 28 November 1984 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 160 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1616 
Location: AFHRA 

Watson, Clement 
Navy 

Subject: Defense Industry 

Contents: Discussion of work as public relations and presentation contractor 
for the Polaris; interview is one of seven interviews on concept and 
development of the Polaris program conducted by the U.S. Naval 
Institute Oral History Program 

Biography: Presentation/Public Relations Contractor, Polaris Program 

Interview Coverage: 1950s 

Interviewer: unknown 

Date of Interview: November 1972 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Pages: 65 

Location: NHC; NWCM; USNA; USNI 

Weaver, RADM John C. 

Navy Navy - Space and Naval Warfare Systems 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of the creation of SPAWAR and the disestablishment of 
NAVMAT; discussion of SPAWAR's coordination function among 
the systems commands, role in systems integration, and the 
WSA&E function; discussion of the WSA&E directorate, including 
remarks about its functions, objectives, and organization; discussion 
of various parts of SPAWAR; discourse on the placement of R&D 
centers within SPAWAR; elaboration on the Navy Industrial Fund's 
method of finance and on the effects of budget tightening on the 


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R&D community; assessment of the performance of R&D centers' 
commanding officers and technical directors; response to various 
criticisms of Navy R&D organization; remarks about engineering 
developments and the contributions made by the Chief of Naval 
Operations ADM Carlisle Trost 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 17 August 1989 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 22 
Location: DTRC 

Weigand, Heinrich J. 

Air Force Air Force - Space Directorate, HQ USAF 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: F-X fighter aircraft working group defined basic concept of air 
superiority fighter; need for United States to develop aircraft to 
counter Soviet developments; impact of energy maneuverability 
theory (method of comparing fighter capabilities) on decision for 
single-purpose plane; F-15 program; air-to-air versus air-to-ground 
capability. 

Biography: Science Advisor, Space Directorate, HQ USAF, Washington DC; 
member of F-X fighter aircraft working group 

Interview Coverage: 1965-1967 
Interviewer: Jacob Neufeld 
Date of Interview: 27 March 1973 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 1 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 862 
Location: AFHRA 

Wentsch, Brig. Gen. George M. 

Air Force Air Force - Military Airlift Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: 443rd Military Airlift Wing first wing to utilize C-5; lessons learned 
from C-141; C-5 and C-141 logistical support and weight 
reduction programs; participation in concept, design and early 
operational phases of C-141; C-141 kit concept that makes aircraft 
multi-purpose transport. 

Biography: Commander, 443rd Military Airlift Wing; Program Manager, HQ 
Military Airlift Command 

Interview Coverage: 1962-1972 
Interviewer: Walter L. Kraus 
Date of Interview: 16 March 1972 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 60 

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Wertenberger, I. Bruce 

Nay y Navy - Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject : Research and Development - Navy 

Contents. Computers; computerization; discussion of the computers used by 
the Naval Weapons Center (NWC) and the Naval Ordnance Test 
Station (NOTS) since the 1950s; describes NOTS' pioneering 
work in digitizing telemetry signals, as well as contractor roles in 
reducing data for early tests 

Interview Coverage: 1950s-1970s 
Interviewer: Elizabeth Babcock 
Date of Interview: 12 December 1988 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 61 

Location: NWC; DTRC; NHC 

Westcott, Edmond J. 

Army Army - Materiel Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Biography: ADCS Research, Development, & Engineering 
Date of Interview: 1 February 1994 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: review not complete; file availability to be determined 
Location: USAMC 

Weyland, Maj. Gen. Otto P. 

Air Force Air Force - Tactical Air Command 

Subject: Communications - Air Force 

Contents: Contains joint interview with Maj. Gen. Glenn O. Barcus (USAF) 
and Col. Gilbert Myers (USAF); tactical air control problems in 
Fifth Air Force as told by Col Myers, Deputy for Operations, Fifth 
Air Force Advanced; shortage of communications equipment 
resulted in use of radar communications net being used for 
point-to-point operations; radar was not actively required in Korea, 
so it was not installed early in war; fluid condition of war did not 
permit installation of heavy radar gear as was done in Europe; 
destruction of radar at Pyongyang was result of immobility of unit 
and fact that tactical control squadron did not have its organic 
equipment; inability of Shoran unit to operate properly; making 
TACP squadron that will centralize control of TACPs assigned to 
ground forces; TACPs require more radio communication facilities. 
Interviewer: USAF Evaluation Group 
Date of Interview: 28 December 1950 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 21 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 168.041-1 
Location: AFHRA 

White, Dr. Howard J., Jr. 

Navy Navy - Assistant Secretary for R&D 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy _ 

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Contents: Discussion of background and appointment as Special Assistant for 
Research to the Assistant Secretary of the Navy for Research and 
Development (ASN R&D); description of duties as Special 
Assistant, including budgeting 6.1 and 6.2 funds, working as a 
liaison between the labs and ASN (R&D), and studying the 
problems of laboratory management in a military-civilian matrix; 
comments on the impact of the Task Force 97 Project Report, the 
Dillon Review of 1962, and the Furnas and Austin Reports; 
discussion of the Sherwin Plan and the Navy R&D community's 
reaction to it; comments about the value of in-house Navy labs and 
SECDEF McNamara's influence on Navy R&D 
Biography: Special Assistant for Research to the ASN (R&D) 

Interview Coverage: 1960s 
Interviewer: Dr. Vincent Ponko 
Date of Interview: 4 December 1982 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 27 

Location: NWC; DTRC; NHC 

White, Gen. Thomas D. 

Air Force Air Force - Chief of Staff 

Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: Position of Chief of Staff; civilian roles in strategic planning; 

interservice rivalry and appropriations; USAF weapon system 
concept. 

Biography: USAF Chief of Staff, HQ USAF, Washington DC 
Interview Coverage: 1958-1961 

Interviewer: Joseph W. Angell, Jr. and Dr. Alfred Goldberg 
Date of Interview: 27 June 1961 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 9 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 606 
Location: AFHRA 

White, Maj. Robert M. 

Air Force 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: Training as test pilot; testing of F-86; testing of F-105; testing of 
X-15. 

Interviewer: Kenneth Leish, Columbia University Aviation Project 
Date of Interview: August 1960 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Permission to cite or quote required from Columbia 
Pages: 27 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 146.34-106 
Location: AFHRA 


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Whitfield, Robert 

Navy Navy - Space and Naval Warfare Systems 

Subject: Acquisition - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of the issues surrounding the dissolution of NAVMAT 
and the creation of SPAWAR; discussion of the goal to eliminate 
layers of bureaucracy in acquisition and to create a systems 
command to coordinate acquisition of a coherent battle force 
architecture; remarks about SECNAV Lehman's determination to 
reduce bureaucracy and Congressional pressure to reduce overhead 
Interviewer: Dr. David K. Allison 
Date of Interview: 10 June 1985 
Length of Interview: 1 tape 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Location: DTRC 

Wickham, GEN John A. 

Army Army - Chief of Staff 

Subject: Communications - Army 

Biography: Army Chief of Staff, June 1983 - June 1987 
Interview Coverage: 1983-1987 
Date of Interview: 21 March 1988 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Location: USASC-FG 

Wilcox, Dr. Howard A. 

Navy Navy - Naval Ordnance Test Station (NOTS) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Comments on the projects Wilcox was involved with at the Naval 
Ordnance Test Station (NOTS), including NOTSNIK, a response 
to Sputnik, and ASROC; comments about the high cost of satellite 
development 

Interviewer: Mickey Strang 
Date of Interview: 25 May 1976 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 13 

Location: NWC; DTRC 

Wilcox, Dr. Howard A. 

Navy Navy - Naval Ordnance Test Station (NOTS) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Description of the various problems with Navy labs before World 
War II, including increasing bureaucracy, the insertion of new 
managers without wartime lab experience, and budget constraints; 
comments on the lack of innovative weapons ideas and narrowly 
defined lab missions; discussion of William B. McLean's leadership 
qualities; reflections on good aspects of the Navy lab system, roles 
of headquarters, labs and industry in Navy R&D; effects of Sputnik 
on Navy R&D and role of Vietnam on lab programs 
Interviewer: Albert B. Christman with Bert Larson 


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Date of Interview: 15 March 1978 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 23 
Location: DTRC 

Wilhelm, Peter G. 

Navy Navy - Naval Research Laboratory 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Overview of the growth of satellite technology research and related 
studies in space science at the Naval Research Laboratory from 
1959 to 1987; discussion of career and work in space studies and 
satellite programs, including Navy navigation, communications, 
environmental, and general surveillance satellites; comments about 
possible challenges to the Navy's role in space and the importance 
of the Navy changing its force structure 
Interviewer: Dr. David van Keuren and Dean Bundy 
Date of Interview: 19 November 1987; 14 December 1987 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 18 
Location: NRL 

Willey, Thomas 

Navy Navy - Naval Air Development Center 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of personal background and work in systems engineering 
at NADC, including the A-NEW Program, Airborne Computer 
Development System in the 1960s, and the Proteus System of 
Signal Processing; remarks about the impact of systems engineering, 
the Polaris submarine and its effect of Anti-Submarine Warfare 
research, and reorganization of NADC in the early 1970s 
Interviewer:Tom Misa and Ed Todd 
Date of Interview: 15 July 1982 
Length of Interview: 2 tapes 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Location: NADC; DTRC 

Williams, ADM John G., Jr. 

Navy 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of Navy R&D centers, changes that occurred during his 
tenure as CNM, and the Corporate Plan for NAVMAT, selection 
of Technical Directors, selection of good personnel; remarks about 
the role of the Navy labs as "smart buyers" for the Navy 
Biography: Chief of Naval Materials 
Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig, III and Dr. David K. Allison 
Date of Interview: 12 July 1983 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 9 

Location: NWC; DTRC 


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Wilson, Dr. Haskell G. 

Navy Navy - Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of some of the evolutionary aspects of NWC's history 

and philosophy, military-civilian relationships, the Center's Principles 
of Operation, changes in R&D emphasis; remarks about the 
Walleye program; remarks about the position of Director of Navy 
Laboratories (DNL) 

Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig, III 
Date of Interview: 10 August 1982 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 17 

Location: NHC; DTRC 

Wilson, Gen. Louis L., Jr. 

Air Force Air Force - Space and Missile Systems 

Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: B-29 bomber; B-36 bomber; Weaponeer School; maintenance in 
flying units; B-52 bomber; B-70 bomber; A-10 attack aircraft; 
Minuteman HI ICBM; F-15 fighter; F-l 11 aircraft; Air Staff Board 
and C-5; Lt. Gen. Glenn A. Kent; Gen. Jack J. Catton; Titan 
missiles; Ballistic Missile Early Warning System and MIDAS; views 
on MX proposal; weapons in space; Gen. John D. Lavelle; 
reorganization of PACAF, 1974. 

Biography: B-29 squadron commander; B-36 squadron commander; Chief of 
Plans, Strategic Air Command, Offutt AFB, NE; Deputy Director 
of Operational Requirements, HQ USAF, Washington DC; Vice 
Commander, HQ Space and Missile Systems Organization, Los 
Angeles AFS, CA; USAF Inspector General, HQ USAF, 

Washington DC; Vice Commander in Chief, U.S. Air Forces 
Europe; Commander in Chief, Pacific Air Force (PACAF) 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1977 
Interviewer: Lt. Col. Arthur W. McCants 
Date of Interview: November 1979 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 340 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1178 
Location: AFHRA 

Wilson, Lt. Gen. Roscoe C. 

Air Force Air Force - Third Air Force 

Subject: Research and Development - Air Force 

Contents: Success of weapon system concept in accelerating development and 
operational readiness of USAF weapons; devotion of USAF 
resources to basic and applied research and development; 
fundamental factors that account for cyclical swings in USAF 
research and development vis-^-vis logistics; primary obstacles to 
development of effective command and control system; effects of 
spacecraft on missile warfare; explanation of opposition to 


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Dyna-Soar within Department of Defense; effectiveness of USAFs 
use of applied technology; overall comparison of United States and 
Soviet Union in science and technology; USAF and space; 
problems as Commander of Third Air Force, 1954-1957. 

Biography: Deputy Chief, Armed Forces Special Weapons Project, July 1947 

- February 1950; Assistant Deputy Chief of Staff, Operations, 
Atomic Energy, February 1950-1951; Commandant, Air War 
College, Maxwell AFB, AL, 1951-1954; Commander, Third Air 
Force, United Kingdom, 1954-1957; retired 1961 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1961 
Interviewer: Dr. Henry L. Bowen 
Date of Interview: 13 October 1961 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 12 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 774 
Location: AFHRA 

Wilson, Lt. Gen. Roscoe C. 

Air Force Air Force - Third Air Force 

Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: Armed Forces Special Weapons Project (military agency 

responsible for training of military personnel in maintenance and use 
of atomic weapons); Operation CROSSROADS tests, 1946; 
problems with ADM Hyman G. Rickover concerning development 
of atomic reactors 

Biography: Deputy Chief, Armed Forces Special Weapons Project, July 1947 

- February 1950; Assistant Deputy Chief of Staff, Operations, 
Atomic Energy, February 1950-1951; Commandant, Air War 
College, Maxwell AFB, AL, 1951-1954; Commander, Third Air 
Force, United Kingdom, 1954-1957; retired 1961 

Interviewer: Lt. Col. Dennis A. Smith 
Date of Interview: 1-2 December 1983 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 184 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1554 
Location: AFHRA 

Wilson, Walter D. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: Foreign military sales of F-15 aircraft to Israel (Peace Fox), to 
Japan (Peace Eagle) and to Saudi Arabia (Peace Sun); reports on 
programs for total operational support of F-15; necessary follow-on 
spares and support equipment; maintenance. 

Interviewer: Dr. Richard W. Iobst 
Date of Interview: 4 March 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 15 

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Wilson, Walter D. 

Air Force Air Force - Logistics Command 

Subject: Logistics - Air Force 

Contents: War readiness spare kits for F-15 aircraft; shortages of spares and 
supplies. 

Interview Coverage: 1980 
Interviewer: Dr. Richard W. Iobst 
Date of Interview: 30 September 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 9 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1258 
Location: AFHRA 

Witter, RADM Raymond 

Navy Navy - Space and Naval Warfare Systems 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: Interview to collect information about the disestablishment of 
NAVMAT and establishment of SPAWAR; background 
information regarding the Navy's undersea surveillance programs; 
elaboration on the rationale behind transferring ASW programs to a 
single systems command; evaluation of PD 80, SPAWAR's ASW 
directorate; effects of the Defense Science Board's report as well as 
cross-platform responsibility for ASW and the fiscal problems 
encountered by PD 80; discussion of the program coordination 
efforts among the Naval Air Systems Command, Naval Sea 
Systems Command, SPAWAR, Office of Naval Research, and the 
Office of Naval Technology; discussion of the reorganization of PD 
80 under ADM Witter, the effect of the Aspin report on the ASW 
program, and the interaction between PD 80 and SPAWAR 30, the 
WSA&E Directorate 
Interviewer: Dr. Joseph Marchese 
Date of Interview: 1 March 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 16 
Location: DTRC 

Wolfe, Lt. Gen. Kenneth B. 

Air Force 

Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: Development of B-29 bomber. 

Biography: Oversaw B-29 production 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1966 

Interviewer: Robert Piper, Space Systems Division History Office 
Date of Interview: June 1966 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 25 

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Wolfe, Lt. Gen. Kenneth B. 

Air Force 

Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: Development of B-29 bomber; development of production 

specifications; selection of company to produce bomber; crash of 
first B-29; question of continuing production of aircraft; decision of 
Gen. H.H. Arnold and Robert A. Lovett, Assistant Secretary of 
War for Air, to continue; difficulties that arose with B-29 
production; development of aircraft engines. 

Biography: Oversaw B-29 production 

Interview Coverage: 1940-1944 
Interviewer: Dr. Alfred Goldberg 
Date of Interview: 6 September 1952 
Length of Interview: 0:30 hour 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Finding Aids: AFHRA 694 
Location: AFHRA 

Word, Thomas J. 

Navy Navy - Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Program Management - Navy 

Contents: discussion of political problems facing NWC in the early 1980s; 
discussion of management philosophies, productivity, and 
bureaucracy; detailed remarks about the A-76/CA contracting 
controversy 

Interviewer: Leroy L. Doig, III 

Date of Interview: 28-29 November 1982 

Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: access very limited 

Pages: 94 

Location: NWC 

Yates, Lt. Gen. Donald N. 

Air Force 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: Involvement in early missile program while Director of Research and 
Development at HQ USAF; AFMTC. 

Biography: Commander, Air Weather Service; Assistant Chief of Staff of 

Development/Director for Research and Development, HQ USAF, 
Washington DC, 1950 - July 1954; Commander, Air Force Missile 
Test Center (AFMTC), Patrick AFB, FL, July 1954 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1961 
Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 10-12 June 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 243 

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Yeager, Brig. Gen. Charles E. 

Air Force 

Subject: Test and Evaluation - Air Force 

Contents: Bell X-l aircraft; nine years as nation's leading test pilot. 

Biography: First pilot to fly Bell X-l ; first pilot to break speed of sound; 

Commander, 417th Fighter Squadron; Commander, 1st Fighter 
Squadron, Moron AB, Spain; Commandant, Aerospace Research 
Pilot School; Commander, 405th Fighter Wing, Clark AB, 
Philippines, 1966-1967; Commander, 4th Tactical Fighter Wing, 
Seymour Johnson AFB, NC, and South Korea; Vice Commander, 
17th Air Force, Ramstein AB, West Germany; U.S. Defense 
Representative to Pakistan; Director, Aerospace Safety, Office of 
USAF Inspector General, Norton AFB, CA 
Interview Coverage: 1945-1975 
Interviewer Scottie S. Thompson 
Date of Interview: 28-30 April 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Copy 1 and 2 are unclassified 
Pages: 377 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1204 
Location: AFHRA 

York, Col. Edward J. 

Air Force Air Force - Military Air Transport Service 

Subject: Procurement - Air Force 

Contents: Military Air Transport Service; Western Air Transport Air Force; 
Titan I intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM); Atlas ICBM; 
military-industrial complex. 

Biography: Commandant, USAF Officer Candidate School; Defense Attach^, 
Copenhagen, Denmark; Commander, Site Activation Task Force, 
Titan I intercontinental ballistic missile; Commander, Air Force 
Security Service 

Interviewer: Dr. James C. Hasdorff 
Date of Interview: 23 July 1984 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 91 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1592 
Location: AFHRA 

York, Dr. Herbert 

Navy Advanced Research Projects Agency 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of effects of Sputnik on Navy R&D; remarks about 
work at Chief Scientist of ARPA, selection to be first Director of 
Defense Research and Engineering (DDR&E); discussion of the 
rationale behind the creation of the DDR&E post, relationship of 
DDR&E to services, problems encountered in position; comments 
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forces, DDR&E, and the general growth of the bureaucracy; 
discussion of the effects of increased R&D on the escalation of the 
arms race and trends in technology 
Biography: Chief Scientist, Advanced Research Projects Agency 
Interviewer: Albert B. Christman 
Date of Interview: 24 September 1980 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 40 
Location: DTRC 

Young, Ernest A. 

Army Army - Aviation and Missile Command 

Subject: Research and Development - Army 

Contents: Accessible via http://www.redstone.armv.mil/historv/oral/voung.html 
Biography: Chairman, U.S. Army Missile Command (MICOM) Readiness 

Organizational Refinements Planning Group, Redstone Arsenal, AL, 
December 1980 - July 1981; Deputy to the Commanding General, 
MICOM/U.S. Army Aviation Missile Command (AMCOM), 
Redstone Arsenal, AL, June 1993 - 1998. 

Interview Coverage: 1993-1998 

Interviewer: Michael E. Baker and Claus R. Martel 

Date of Interview: 30 July 1998 

Interview Medium: Tape - Video 

Location: USAMCOM 

Younkin, Gene 

Navy Navy - Naval Weapons Center (China Lake) 

Subject: Research and Development - Navy 

Contents: Discussion of career in the Ballistics Division and reflections on the 
Sidewinder missile program; remarks about early career in the 
Naval Ocean Testing Center's Ballistics Division; elaboration on 
early Sidewinder development, simulation work, training of project 
pilots 

Interviewer: Elizabeth Babcock 
Date of Interview: 12 July 1990 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 40 

Location: NWC; DTRC 

Zimmerman, Lt. Col. Robert G. 

Air Force Air Force - Air Materiel Command 

Subject: Procurement - Air Force 

Contents: Evaluates B-52 electro-optical viewing system program and its 
problems 

Biography: Air Force Plant Representative; Project Officer for B-52 

electro-optical viewing system, Detachment 21, Boeing Aircraft 
Company, Wichita, KS 

Interview Coverage: 1957-1973 
Interviewer: Herbert H. Kissling 


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Date of Interview: 19 July 1973 
Length of Interview: 0:45 hour 
Interview Medium: Tape - Audio 
Finding Aids: AFHRA681 
Location: AFHRA 

Zuckert, Eugene M 

Air Force Air Force - Secretary 

Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: Under Secretary of War Stuart Symington; congressional leaders; 
administration officials; problems and solutions as Air Force 
emerged from Army Air Corps; service on Atomic Energy 
Commission 

Biography: Special Assistant to the Secretary of War for Air, HQ USAAF, 

Washington DC, 1946-1947; Assistant Secretary of the Air Force, 
HQ USAF, Washington DC, 1947-1952; Secretary of the Air 
Force, HQ. USAF, Washington DC, January 1961 - September 
1965 

Interview Coverage: 1945-1965 
Interviewer: Jerry N. Ness 
Date of Interview: 27 September 1971 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 83 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1286 
Location: AFHRA 

Zuckert, Eugene M. 

Air Force Air Force - Secretary 

Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: Career as Secretary of the Air Force; leadership in military; 

challenges while serving with Air Force; Secretary of the Air Force 
Stuart Symington and Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara 
as great executives; dealings with Congress; Gen. Carl Spaatz and 
political intuition; Gen. Hap Arnold as leader; decision-making 
process; comparison between Spaatz and Arnold; creation of 
Comptroller in Air Force; assessment of Gen. Hoyt Vandenberg; 
selection of Gen. Thomas D. White as USAF Chief of Staff; Gen. 
Curtis LeMay as leader and Chief of Staff; 
LeMay-McNamara-Zuckert relationship; B-70 aircraft; B-l 
decision; Gen. John P. McConnell's selection as Chief of Staff; role 
of Service secretary; Long-Range Objectives Group participants; 
management versus leadership 

Biography: Special Assistant to the Secretary of War for Air, HQ USAAF, 

Washington DC, 1946-1947; Assistant Secretary of the Air Force, 
HQ USAF, Washington DC, 1947-1952; Secretary of the Air 
Force, HQ. USAF, Washington DC, January 1961 - September 
1965 

Interviewer: Dr. Edgar F. Puryear, Jr. 

Date of Interview: 28 September 1977 


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Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 51 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1525 
Location: AFHRA 

Zuckert, Eugene M. 

Air Force Air Force - Secretary 

Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: Association with Secretary of the Air Force/Sen. Stuart Symington; 
management control through cost control; benefits of 
comptrollership; military versus civilian control in Department of 
Defense; Unification Act of July 1947; Secretary of the Air Force 
Thomas K. Finletter as manager; power and authority of Office of 
Secretary of the Air Force and Office of Secretary of Defense. 
Biography: Special Assistant to the Secretary of War for Air, HQ USAAF, 

Washington DC, 1946-1947; Assistant Secretary of the Air Force, 
HQ USAF, Washington DC, 1947-1952; Secretary of the Air 
Force, HQ. USAF, Washington DC, January 1961 - September 
1965 

Interviewer: Dr. George M. Watson, Jr., Office of Air Force History 
Date of Interview: 27 April 1982 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 62 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1348 
Location: AFHRA 

Zuckert, Eugene M. 

Air Force Air Force - Secretary 

Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: Various personnel within or related to Office of Secretary of the Air 
Force as it worked from bureaucracy of Army Air Forces during 
World War II through administrations of W. Stuart Symington and 
Thomas K. Finletter, under whom Zuckert served, to leadership of 
Zuckert himself; differences between Symington and Finletter; 
salvaging of Air Force reorganization plans; effects of Korean War 
on Air Force; growth in power of Office of the Secretary of 
Defense, especially under Robert S. McNamara. 

Biography: Special Assistant to the Secretary of War for Air, HQ USAAF, 

Washington DC, 1946-1947; Assistant Secretary of the Air Force, 
HQ USAF, Washington DC, 1947-1952; Secretary of the Air 
Force, HQ. USAF, Washington DC, January 1961 - September 
1965 

Interviewer: Dr. George M. Watson, Jr., Office of Air Force History 
Date of Interview: 24 January 1984 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 42 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1582 
Location: AFHRA 


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Zuckert, Eugene M. 

Air Force Air Force - Secretary 

Subject: Program Management - Air Force 

Contents: Selection of Zuckert as Secretary of the Air Force (S AF) by 
Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara; relationship with 
McNamara; comparison of McNamara with other secretaries of 
defense that Zuckert worked for; expectations of SAF position; 
tenures of W. Stuart Symington and Thomas K. Finletter as SAF; 
role of assistant secretaries of defense under McNamara; 
disadvantages of coming to SAF position with considerable 
experience; Symington Committee; Symington's support of National 
Security Act; appointment of Joseph Charyk as Under Secretary; 
Brockway McMillan as Assistant Secretary for Research and 
Development; Neil Harlan; Leonard Marks, Jr.; role of Joseph S. 
Imirie as Assistant Secretary of the Air Force; Robert H. Charles as 
Assistant Secretary for Installations and Logistics; Charles' 
predecessor, Alan I. McCone; disagreements between Secretary of 
the Navy James Forrestal and Symington on problems such as 
B-36 aircraft; relationship between Air Force and National 
Aeronautics and Space Administration; establishment of Defense 
Logistics Agency; experience with first Atlas missile launch; missile 
theory; perception of SAF position and how Zuckert operated in 
that position; congressional TFX (F-l 11/FB-l 11) hearings; 
relations with Congress; Gen. Thomas D. White's tenure as Air 
Force Chief of Staff; White's dismissal and replacement with Gen. 
Curtis LeMay; Gen. William McKee, Air Force Vice Chief of Staff; 
relationship with other service secretaries and service rivalries; 
typical day for SAF; cancellation of Skybolt program; dealings with 
presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson; selection of 
Gen. John P. McConnell to replace LeMay as Chief of Staff; B-70 
aircraft; F-l 11 aircraft controversy. 

Biography: Special Assistant to the Secretary of War for Air, HQ USAAF, 

Washington DC, 1946-1947; Assistant Secretary of the Air Force, 
HQ USAF, Washington DC, 1947-1952; Secretary of the Air 
Force, HQ. USAF, Washington DC, January 1961 - September 
1965 

Interviewer: Dr. George M. Watson, Jr. 

Date of Interview: 3-5, 9 December 1986 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 159 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 1763 
Location: AFHRA 

Zuckert, Eugene M. 

Air Force Air Force - Secretary 

Subject: Secretary - Air Force 

Biography: Secretary of the Air Force, 1961-1965 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 

Access Information: Open _ 

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Location: Johnson Library 

Zuckert, Eugene M. 

Air Force Air Force ■ Secretary 

Subject: Secretary - Air Force 

Biography: Secretary of the Air Force, 1961-1965 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Access Information: Open 
Location: Kennedy Library 

Zuckert, Eugene M. 

Air Force Air Force - Secretary 

Subject: Procurement - Air Force 

Contents: Comparison of years as Secretary of the Air Force (SAF) and 
Assistant Secretary of the Air Force; manned bomber versus 
missile; management in Department of Defense under Secretary of 
Defense Robert S. McNamara; roles and missions; role of Service 
secretary; lack of policymaking role; relationship with Joint Chiefs of 
Staff; interservice rivalry; Gen. Curtis E. LeMay; Gen. Thomas D. 
White; Gen. John P. McConnell; system management within Air 
Force; C-5A aircraft program; F-l 11 aircraft; Skybolt; B-70 
program; National Aeronautics and Space Administration - USAF 
relationship; status of USAF conventional war capability; 
military-industrial complex; contrast of President John F. Kennedy 
and President Lyndon B. Johnson; military uses in space; weapon 
system cost and maintenance; SAF relationship with Congress; Dr. 
Harold Brown; typical business day for SAF. 

Biography: Special Assistant to the Secretary of War for Air, HQ USAAF, 

Washington DC, 1946-1947; Assistant Secretary of the Air Force, 

HQ USAF, Washington DC, 1947-1952; Secretary of the Air 
Force, HQ. USAF, Washington DC, January 1961 - September 
1965 

Interview Coverage: 1947-1965 
Interviewer: Col. John L. Frisbee 
Date of Interview: 1 September 1965 
Interview Medium: Transcript - Paper 
Pages: 84 

Finding Aids: AFHRA 763 
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A-10, 9, 67, 71, 104, 127, 137, 217, 239 
A-26, 153, 206 

decision to terminate program, 153 
A-7, 8, 42, 50, 71, 86, 87, 91, 96, 104, 198, 217 
A-76, 242 
AC-130, 14, 135 
ACIMD, 109 
acquisition 

"buy-American-only" policy, 86 

career development for professionals, 229 

concurrency versus prototyping, 39 

contract award methods, 50 

costing and politics, 39 

fixed-price contracting, 18 

materiel, 52 

OSD reorganization (1977), 39 

Reagan-era, 94 

reform, 94 

Soviet, 27 

streamlined, 40 

streamlining, 112 

system development coordination - Navy, 16 
total package procurement (TPP), 10, 34, 50 
workforce education, 56 
workforce training and education, 116 
acquisition - Air Force, 102, 130 
weapon systems, 195 
acquisition - Army, 150, 182, 222 
organization, 60 
streamlined process, 40 
acquisition - Navy, 144, 212 
computer systems, 226 
planning, 1946-1968,41 
acquisition - OSD, 146 
acquisition corps, 10 
acquisition reform, 10 
administration - Navy 
laboratories, 32 

Advanced Combat Direction System (ACDS), 
140 

Advanced Logistics System (ALS), 97, 104 
Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA), 
28, 34, 68, 87, 92,93, 98, 113, 132, 193, 204, 
243, 244 

AEGIS, 140, 152, 161,202 
Aerial Training Program, 33 
aeroballistics, 148 
Aerobee, 27 

Aerospace Corporation, 74, 154, 207 
Aerospace Guidance and Meteorology Center 
(AGMC), 22,41,43,44, 121, 143, 172, 173, 
225, 226 


Aerospace Research Laboratories, 41 
AGMC Maintenance Management System 
(MMS) 

problems with development, 21,43 
Aim Val/Ace Val, 31 
Air Force Institute of Technology, 34 
Air Force Logistics Center (AFLC), 36 
Air Force Logistics Command, 10 
Air Force Office of the Deputy Chief of Staff for 
Operations, 13 

Air Force Scientific Advisory Board, 74 
air medical evacuation capabilities, 73 
air refueling, 81 
air superiority aircraft, 42 
Air War College, 19 
Airborne Warning and Control System 
(AWACS), 71,104, 147, 156, 179 
development, 84 

Aircraft Control and Warning System, 40 
aircraft design, 19, 67 

C-141 weight reduction, 50 
C-5A engine development, 50 
EM theory applied to, 52 
helicopters, 68 

integration of computers into, 119 
inter-war, 22 

maneuvering performance, 42 
nuclear bomber, 148 
removal of guns, 48 
short take-off and landing, 84 
single versus dual engines, 196 
single-purpose versus multi-purpose, 35, 55 
sweep versus fixed wing design, 35 
swing-wing versus fixed-wing, 217 
tail-less aircraft, 199 
aircraft engines 

development of, 242 
aircraft manufacturing 

benefits of mass production, 103 
conflicts between Air Force and Navy, 98 
tooling procurement, 98 
use of titanium in, 98 
Air-Launched Cruise Missile (ALCM), 80 
air-superiority aircraft, 8, 84, 106 
ammunition integrated logistics, 40 
Analytic Services (ANSER), 58, 225 
origins of, 111 
Anderson AFB, Guam, 68 
Anderson, GEN Orvil, 163 
anti-radar systems, 9 

anti-submarine warfare (ASW) programs, 32, 

43, 99, 128, 136, 183, 199, 226, 241 


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Applied Research Laboratory (Penn State), 21 
AR-15 

Air Force adopts, 19 
ARC LIGHT 

logistics support, 38 

Armed Forces Special Weapons Project, 240 
Army Acquisition Corps, 60 
buildup of, 89 
civilianizing, 53 

Army Combined Arms Combat Development 
Activity, 228 
Arnold, Gen. H.H., 74 
Arsenal Act, 15 

Arsenal Workload Decisions, 15 
ASROC, 64 

Astronautics and Aeronautics Coordinating 
Board, 61 
ata systems 

standardization of, 97 
ATACMS, 51 
atomic energy, 19 

disputes over military uses of, 103 
Atomic Energy Commission (AEC), 73, 108, 
111, 147,215,245 
atomic weapons, 16, 132 
above-ground tests, 45 
Armed Forces Special Weapons Project, 240 
development, 43 
Nagasaki raid, 16 
Operation CROSSROADS, 240 
tests, 20 

Atwood, Donald J., 112 
automatic data processing 
problems with, 37 
automation, 11 

leaders in Air Force, 78 
AV-8A, 163 
aviation - Army 
doctrine, 25 
organization, 25 

Aviation Restructure Initiative (ARI), 65 
avionics, 104 
F- 111, 62 
A-X, 35, 67,217 
B-18, 12 

B-1B, 9, 39, 71, 75, 80, 82, 86, 93, 99, 105, 130, 
144, 149, 180, 195, 228, 245 
Management of Program, 10 
B-26, 198 

B-29, 75, 239, 241, 242 
first crash, 242 

B-36, 26, 61, 62, 75,99, 123, 150, 174, 176, 

189, 223, 227, 228, 231, 239, 247 


B-47, 40,45,61, 75, 105, 106, 111,112, 123, 
176, 186, 227, 228, 231 
flying characteristics, 40 
B-52, 61, 75, 80, 81, 130, 164, 176, 227, 228, 
239, 244 

electro-optical viewing system, 244 
modifications to, 75 
B-52G 

cost comparison with B-l, 86 
B-52H 

cost comparison with B-l, 86 
B-58,45, 62, 75, 76, 114, 127, 189, 198, 227, 
231 

compared to other SAC bombers, 45 
development and procurement of, 45 
strengths and weaknesses of, 45 
B-66, 163 

B-70, 75, 76, 127,134, 154, 187, 198, 210, 213, 
227, 239, 245, 247, 248 
Babers, Lt. Gen. Donald M., 112 
Ballistic Missile Early Warning System 
(BMEWS), 19,239 
ballistic missile guidance 

research and development, 31 
BARBEL, 66 
barrage balloons, 9 
Beacon Hill Committee, 130 
Bell Laboratories, 103 
Bell Report, 116 
Bendix Aviation Company, 61 
Bikini bomb tests, 17 
bionics, 175 

Blue Ribbon (Fitzhugh) Report, 113 
Blue Ribbon Defense Panel, 7 
Boeing Aircraft, 244 
Booz-Allen & Hamilton Inc., 202, 220 

report on R&D financial management (Navy), 
85 

Boyd, John, 52 

Energy Maneuverability (EM) charts, 171 
Energy Maneuverability (EM) theory, 217 
Bradley infantry fighting vehicle, 182 
Brown, Harold, 10, 68, 80, 86 
Burns, John 

and development of Energy Maneuverability 
(EM) theory, 52 
C-123,48 
C-130, 166 
C-133, 77 

C-141,49, 50,77, 104, 167, 168, 217, 230, 234 
comparison with C-5 program, 50 
design, 49 
development, 49 


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development panel and coordinating 
committee, 49 
early failures, 49 
engineering, 49 
lessons learned, 217 
testing, 49 
weight reduction, 50 
C-141B, 17, 111, 146, 229, 230 
aircraft stretch modification, 17 
stretch modification program, 110 
stretch program, 146 
C-17, 10, 87, 112, 200, 228 
criticisms of, 87 
C3I, 23 
C-45, 163 
C-47, 75, 198 

C-5,50, 86, 104, 114, 127, 131, 141, 146, 166, 
168, 198, 206, 207, 217, 220, 227, 228, 230, 
234, 239 

comparison with C-141 program, 50 
engine development, 50 
C-5A, 10, 15, 50, 51, 68, 81, 87, 158, 170, 177, 
205, 214, 248 

army input about development, 15 
engine development, 50 
kneeling landing gear, 15 
Cal Tech Corporation, 147 
California Institute of Technology (CalTech), 
12, 15, 19, 33 

Cambridge Research Center, 181 
Carderock, 94 
Carlucci initiatives, 27 
Carlucci, Frank, 27 
Carter Administration, 9 
Charles, Robert, 34 
Charles, Robert H., 247 
Charyk, Joseph, 247 
Civil Service Commission 

policies on research and development, 28 
role in recruiting scientists, 125 
civil service system 
problems with SES, 32 
civil-military relations, 12, 28, 59, 124 
at Naval Weapons Center (NWC), 103 
partnerships with private sector, 15 
Clark, VADM Glenwood, 54, 202 
Clevite, 6, 24, 84, 129, 161, 226 
Colvard, Dr. James, 142 
Committee for Undersea Warfare, 103 
commonality, 51, 62, 87, 106, 171, 231 
computer technology, 27 
computerization 

Advanced Logistics System (ALS), 104 


ballistic missile guidance systems, 123 
logistics, 97 
simulations, 113 
computers 

aircraft performance applications, 52 
command and control computer systems, 19 
development of, 175 

development of analog and digital systems, 
138 

early applications in USAF, 164 
modeling, 175 

Next Generation Computer Resource (NGCP) 
program, 226 

SEAC (Standards Eastern Automatic 
Computer), 78 
simulation, 175 
UNIVAC, 78 

use in command and control decisions, 175 
computing 

development of wargaming, 67 
Comsat Corporation 
formation of, 137 

concurrency, 18, 50, 53, 93, 205, 217, 220 
cone filter acquisition system 
development of, 69 
continuous-rod warhead, 33 
contract management, 30 
contract management - Navy 

centralization under SECDEF McNamara, 30 
contracting 
fixed price, 31 
sole-source, 146 
total package procurement, 50 
contracting - Air Force, 178, 189, 195 
with RAND, 18, 19 
contracting - Air Force 
fixed-price, 193 
contracting - Navy 
fixed cost, 108 

management improvements, 151 
problems with R&D, 139 
contracts 

influence of Congress, 51 
Cook-Craigie Plan, 63 
Cooper-Lybrand, 56 

Corona Harvest, 14, 37, 38, 69, 72, 75, 136, 147, 
166, 177,201,231 
cost accounting 

actual-hour system, 22 
cruise missiles 

ground launched, 140 
Curcio, Joseph A., 45 
D-558, 67 


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DARPA and the internet, 27 
David Taylor Research Center (DTRC), 65, 66, 
94, 175, 204 

DavidPackard, David, 18 
dedicated airlift concept, 166 
Defense Acquisition Improvement Program, 27 
Defense Acquisition University (DAU), 56, 116 
Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency 
(DARPA), 10,66, 113 
and the internet, 27 
Defense Contract Management 
Command/Agency, 112 
Defense Logistics Agency, 62, 112, 184 
establishment of, 247 
Defense Reorganization Act (1958), 40 
Defense Research and Engineering, 13, 84, 102, 
110, 177, 243 

Defense Resources Board (DRB), 39 
Defense Science Board (DSB), 56, 140, 241 
Defense Supply Agency, 62, 97, 198 
Defense Systems Acquisition Review 
creation of, 102 

Defense Systems Acquisition Review Council 
(DSARC), 110, 186 
Defense Systems Management College 
(DSMC), 116 
DeLauer study, 18 
DeLauer, Richard, 27 
development of systems analysis, 187 
Development Planning Objective (DPO), 130 
Director of Defense Research and Engineering 
(DDR&E), 68 

Director of Navy Laboratories, 100, 116, 122, 
141, 142, 143, 157, 165, 168, 169, 185, 186, 
188, 199, 203,215, 216, 227, 230, 232, 239 
Office of the Director, 6, 142, 157 
opposition to establishment of, 100 
Disosway report, 70 
Distant Early Warning (DEW) Line 
construction of, 30 
DIVAD, 182 
Draper, Dr. Stark, 207 
Dryden, Hugh L., 207 
dual-basing concept 
explanation of, 40 
dual-purpose aircraft, 16 
Dyna-Soar, 50, 73, 127, 206, 240 
E-3, 195 

Eaker, GEN Ira C., 106 
Eastman Kodak, 135 
Eaton Canyon, 33 
EC-47, 105 

Echols, Gen. Oliver P., 61 


Electric Boat Company, 212 
electronic warfare, 37, 71, 103, 194, 207 
energy maneuverability (EM) theory, 34, 35, 52 
application to fighter aircraft design, 52 
energy maneuverability theory (EM) 
opposition to, 35 

Energy Research and Development 
Administration, 106 
ERADCOM, 49 
Estes, Gen. Howell, 35 
Experimental Engineering Station, 175 
F/A-18, 12 

F-100,45, 47, 82, 135, 159 
F-100 (aircraft engine), 47 
F-101, 199 
F-102, 82, 164 
F-104,48, 104, 118, 198 
accidents, 104 

F-105, 24, 55, 104, 129, 149, 159, 217, 236 
F-106, 82 

F-l 11, 12, 39,42, 50, 51, 62, 71, 81, 83, 86, 94, 
96, 100, 107, 108, 118, 144, 146, 151, 158, 
164, 165, 177, 196, 198, 201, 206, 210, 214, 
217, 220, 221, 239, 247, 248 
F-l4, 87,93, 106, 127, 193,217 
F-15, 8, 10, 26, 35,42, 47, 52, 57, 66, 67, 68, 

71, 72, 80, 82, 84, 87, 90, 93, 96, 106, 122, 

124, 125, 126, 127,128, 135, 150, 156, 158, 

160, 162, 170, 180, 193, 196, 207, 211, 217, 

222, 234, 239, 240, 241 

computerized control of, 211 

foreign military sales (FMS), 107 

logistical support for, 47 

sales to Israel, 47 

sales to Saudi Arabia, 47 

spares kits, 47 

F-l6,47, 62, 80, 82, 127, 165, 195, 196, 217 
F-36, 19 

F-4, 19,42, 55, 82, 135, 159, 171, 172, 198 
F-5, 10, 39,42, 82, 86, 94, 96, 198, 217 
sales, 39 

F-80, 135, 199, 227 

F-84, 123, 129, 135,219 

F-86,45, 65, 82, 141,236 

Farr, Col. Daniel E., 31 

FB-111,45, 75, 80, 83, 130, 154, 159, 247 

Federal Aviation Act of 1958, 148 

Fiber Optics Sensor System (FOSS), 46 

Field Support Command (FSC), 15 

fielding 

Scope Creek Program, 179 
Finletter, Thomas K., 246 

as Secretary of the Air Force, 247 


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fire-control systems 
Librascope Mk3, 222 
Fitzgerald, Ernest, 15, 50, 61 
Fitzhugh Commission, 18 
fixed cost contracting, 108 
fixed price contracting, 193 
shortcomings, 31 
fixed-price procurement, 10 
flight testing, 8, 15 
accidents, 20 
early methodology, 220 
jet aircraft, 35 
role of scientific officers, 9 
Skyrocket, 38 

fly-before-buy concept, 63, 99 
Force 21, 89 
force modernization, 40 
Force Options for Tactical Air (USAF staff 
study), 42 

Ford Aeronautics, 27 
foreign military sales, 47, 104 
foreign military sales (FMS), 71, 86, 88, 104, 
124, 125, 160, 184, 195, 221, 223, 230 
Peace Eagle, 240 
Peace Fox, 240 
Peace Sun, 107, 240 
Forrestal, James, 119, 150, 247 
Franklin Arsenal, 13 

Frosch, Dr. Robert A., 116, 143, 192, 215 

Fubini, Eugene, 27 

F-X, 35,42, 96, 171,217, 234 

Gates, Thomas S. Jr., 210 

GAU-8, 67 

General Dynamics, 51, 62, 91 
General Mills Corporation, 135 
General Motors Corporation, 103 
goldplating, 15 
Goldstone Lake, 33 
Goldwater, Barry, 141 

Goldwater-Nichols Act, 27, 60, 88, 94, 161, 182 
Gorbics, Steven, 45 
govenment-industry partnerships, 49 
Grace Commission, 18, 94, 229 
formation of, 229 
Guggenheim, Harry, 139 
guided missiles, 10, 82 
ACIMD, 70, 109 
ALCM, 80 
AMRAAM, 12, 137 
Bat, 10, 23, 194 
Bat II/BATTU, 10 
Bigeye, 70, 134 
Bullpup, 10 


Condor, 64, 134 
Corvus, 10, 194 
Eagle, 136 
Flycatcher, 10 
Gnatcatcher, 10 
Grebe, 10 

HARM, 70, 109, 194,218 
Harpoon, 11, 79 
Hound Dog, 84 
Mace, 106, 118 
Matador, 26 
Maverick, 48, 200 
Mockingbird, 10 
Moth, 10 
Pelican, 10 
Petrel, 10, 23 
Phoenix, 51, 136 
Puffin, 10 
Puma, 10 
Robin, 10 
SARAH, 11 

Shrike, 10, 123, 138, 151, 194 
Sidewinder, 11, 12, 23,47,63, 123, 138, 157, 
180, 183, 185, 194, 203, 209, 213, 244 
simulation systems used in development of, 
113 

Sparrow, 109 
Standard ARM, 10 

transition from rocket development, 180 
Walleye, 10, 64, 157, 209, 239 
Walleye II, 10 
World War II programs, 63 
GUPPY program, 65 
Hansell, Gen. Haywood, 49 
Hansen, Donald F., 45 
harbor defense 

mine research and development, 135 
Harlan, Neil, 247 

HARM missile, 70, 138, 151, 194, 218 
Harvard Underwater Sound Laboratory, 38 
Hays, ADM Burrell, 70 
helicopters 

research and development of, 177 
U.S. Army, 68 
HELLFIRE missile, 51 
Holifield Commission, 50 
Hoover Commission I, 1947-1949, 167, 185 
Howze Board. See Tactical Mobility 
Requirements Board (1961) 

Hudson Laboratories, 28, 93 
Hughes Corporation, 123 
Hunsaker, Dr. Jerome, 207 
hydrogen bombs, 15 


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hydrophones 
patents, 46 
ICBMs 

development, 93, 98, 164 
Minuteman, 43, 84,98, 99, 118, 143, 148, 

149, 154, 167, 180, 181, 204, 206, 230 
Minuteman El, 239 
modernization, 190 
MX development, 112 
MX missile program, 127 
research and development, 149 
independent research and development (ER&D), 
49 

industrial job-related accidents, 106 
industrial-military relations 
Lockheed-USAF on C-5 A, 15 
inertial navigation systems, 68 
Institute for Defense Analysis, 19, 56 
comparison with RAND, 19 
intercontinental ballistic missiles 
construction, 76 
ICBM system, 75,149 
MX, 206 

Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles (ICBMs), 18 
Interim Logistics System, 97 
Internal Combustion Laboratory, 175 
International Business Machines (IBM) 
role in LAMPS project, 124 
international cooperation, 145 
MBT-70 project, 73 
Peace Sigma program, 83 
Remo E program, 83 
U.S.-German relations, 19 
interservice rivalry for funds, 76 
jet propulsion, 18 
ramjets, 18 
John F. Kennedy 

comparison with Lyndon B. Johnson, 248 
Johnson, Dr. Gerald, 116 
Johnson, Lyndon B. 

comparison with John F. Kennedy, 248 
Joint Chiefs of Staff 
1957 reorganization, 76 
interference in military research and 
development, 43 

Joint Research and Development Board (JRDB), 
204 

Kadena AB, Okinawa, 68 
KC-10, 176 
KC-130, 16 
KC-135, 75, 176, 227 
modifications to, 75 
Ken Horn Report, 135 


Killian Report, 135 
Korea 

Supply, USMC, 9 
Korean War 

industrial planning and mobilization, 36 
Krause, Dr. Ernest H., 45 
labor unions, 48 
laboratory consolidations, 143 
Laird, Melvin R., 13, 198 

decentralization of DoD under, 215 
Lake City Army Ammunition Plant (LCAAP), 
184 

Langston, Marvin, 202 
Lead the Force program, 217 
LeMay, Gen. Curtis E., 49, 123, 153, 176, 205, 
213, 231,233, 245,248 
Libby Board, 110 
life-cycle costing, 195 

Light Airborne Multipurpose System (LAMPS), 
124 

limited war concept, 79 
Lincoln Air Defense System, 118 
Lincoln Laboratory, 118 
Lloyd Mundie Report, 135 
Lockheed Corporation, 15, 18, 50, 94, 114, 134, 
135,146 

internal C-5A problems, 15 
logistics 

Advanced Logistics System (ALS), 104 
airline strikes, 48 
as national responsibility, 48 
computerization, 97 
effect of contractor labor problems, 57 
interoperability, 48 
interservice cooperation, 195 
Revolution in Military Logistics, 15 
sea-based mobile logistics system, 16 
standardization, 48 
Vietnam War, 16 
logistics - Air Force, 121 
airlift consolidation, 48 
influence on research and development, 239 
Lorenz AG (ITT subsidiary), 123 
Los Alamos, 11, 19,182 
Loudmouth public address system, 36 
Lovett, Robert A., 76, 242 
Luedecke, Maj. Gen Alvin, 73 
Ml tank 

development of, 69 
MacArthur, GEN Douglas, 61 
Mace missile, 118 
management 
"rocket czar", 12 


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defense contractor employment, 15 
developing laboratory leaders, 141 
effects of short officer tours on, 17 
in DoD, 248 
philosophy, 12, 28 
project guidance methodologies, 41 
Total Quality Army. See Total Quality Army 
total quality management, 88 
management - Air Force, 195 
management - Army 
matrix concept, 191 
management - Navy 

comparison of Walleye and Condor missile 
programs, 64 
contract management, 31 
lab re-organizations (1960s), 65 
laboratories, 108 
Manhattan Project, 11, 16, 17, 21 
manned bomber/missile controversy, 51 
Mansfield Amendment, 7, 93, 227 
Marine Tactical Data System (MTDS), 92 
Mark-48 torpedo, 34 

Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), 
20, 27, 137, 183,207,219 
Lincoln Laboratory, 118 
Radiation Laboratory, 20 
materials engineering 
stealth, 26 

maximum maneuver concept, 35 
MBT-70, 20, 73, 147 
McCausland, Lt. Gen. Charles P., 112 
McCone, Alan I., 247 
McConnell, Gen. John, 55 
McConnell, Gen. John P., 245, 247, 248 
McDonnell Douglas Corporation, 35, 71, 106, 
222 

McDonnell-Douglas Corporation, 57 
McKee, Gen. William, 247 
McLean, William B., 109, 138 
McMillan, Brockway, 247 
McNamara, Robert S., 7, 13, 19, 30, 39,40,49, 
50, 61, 68, 70, 71,92, 97, 99, 104, 106, 108, 
110, 114, 118, 119, 127, 141, 156, 158, 192, 
204, 205, 213, 215, 221, 227, 228, 231, 236, 
243, 245, 246, 247, 248 
and Joint Chiefs of Staff, 70 
McNaughton, Maj. Gen. Kenneth P., 70 
Midas project, 98 
MiG-21,55 
military procurement 

effects of inflation on, 10 
military-industrial complex, 207, 243, 248 


military-industrial relations, 13, 26, 34, 60, 99, 
111, 148 

future of weapons technology, 40 
MILSTAR communications satellite, 140 
Minuteman missile, 98 
missile programs 
Air Force, 205 
development, 39, 178 
NOTSNIK, 64, 123, 194, 237 
rolling airframe missile (RAM), 64 
Titan, 163 
missile systems 

Atlas, 84, 98, 99, 121, 143, 148, 149, 154, 
187, 204,207, 231,243,247 
CHAPARRAL, 51 

early air-to-air system development, 67 

early development, 61 

HELLFIRE, 51 

Patriot, 182 

PATRIOT, 51 

Regulus, 66 

S AM-D, 51 

Talos, 191 

Tartar, 191 

Terrier, 191 

Thor, 27,73 

Titan, 31, 80, 84, 99, 137, 143, 148, 153, 154, 
204, 206, 239, 243 
Titan I, 243 
missiles programs 

"black" development programs, 12 
Multiple Launch Rocket System (MLRS), 51, 
53, 54 
munitions 

acquisition, 54 

improvements to design of, 177 
manufacturing, 54 
modernization process, 54 
research and development, 72 
testing 500-lb. bombs, 17 
Munitions and Armaments Command (MAC), 

15 

munitions development 
Vietnam era, 20 
Mutual Assured Destruction, 22 
MX missile, 10, 112, 127 
Nakhon Phanom Royal Thai Air Base, Thailand, 
37 

National Advisory Committee on Aeronautics 
(NACA), 63, 65, 74, 207 
National Aeronautics and Space Administration 
(NASA), 50, 54, 58, 61, 68, 73, 89, 93, 170, 
177, 189, 207, 210, 248 


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relations with Air Force, 247 
National Bureau of Standards, 15, 17, 78 
National Defense Research Committee (NDRC), 
15, 20, 38,43, 70, 77 

National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), 10, 158 
National Research Council 

role in promoting military R&D, 188 
National Science Foundation, 7, 13,43, 74, 219, 
223, 227, 231 

National Security Act, 85, 247 

National Security Industrial Association, 19 

National War College, 19 

NATO Intergrated Communications System, 

179 

Naval Air Development Center (NADC), 22, 99, 
119, 120, 124, 136, 137, 229, 238 
Naval Electronics Systems Command 
(NAVELEX), 16, 28, 43,72, 90, 187,202, 
212, 231 

Naval Gun Factory, 139 
Naval Industrial Fund, 34 
Naval Industrial Fund (NIF), 118, 122, 157 
Naval Material Command (NAVMAT), 16, 23, 
28, 32, 54, 55,59,115, 116, 117, 126, 128, 
139, 140, 142, 144, 152, 160, 161, 162, 164, 
165, 168, 169, 183, 186, 187, 199, 202, 209, 
212, 226, 233,237, 238,241 
Anti-Submarine Systems Program Office 
(PM-4), 32 

Naval Ocean Systems Center (NOSC), 13, 30, 
31,44, 113, 141, 172, 224 
creation of, 31 

Naval Ocean Testing Center (NOTC), 33, 244 
Naval Ordnance Laboratory (NOL), 10, 23, 24, 
25, 58, 69, 108, 129, 139, 151, 214, 226 
establishment of, 23 

Naval Ordnance Test Station (NOTS), 12, 13, 

14, 20, 33, 36,42,43,44,47, 59, 63, 64, 109, 
110, 113, 114, 122, 125, 134, 138, 151, 157, 
179, 183, 185, 194, 208, 215, 222, 224, 235, 
237 

Pasadena annex, 44 

Naval Powder Factory, Indian Head, 15 
Naval Proving Ground (NPG), 17, 21, 58, 206 
Naval Research Advisory Committee (NRAC), 
7, 209 

Naval Research Laboratory (NRL), 27, 28, 45, 
46, 56, 112, 117, 118,238 
Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC), 25, 36, 
113, 129, 141,226 

Combat Systems Integration Department, 58 
Naval Tactical Data System (NTDS), 140 


Naval Undersea Research and Development 
Center, 44 

Naval Underwater Systems Center (NUSC), 24, 
69, 135 

Naval Weapons Center, 10, 11, 12, 17, 19, 20, 
23, 32, 33,42,43, 50, 51, 63, 70, 81, 88, 91, 
103, 104, 109, 110, 113, 114, 115, 122, 123, 
124, 126, 133, 134, 135, 138, 139, 141, 144, 

145, 151, 152, 157,168, 180, 183, 185, 190, 
194, 197, 203, 207, 209, 216, 218, 219, 222, 
227, 233, 235, 236, 237, 238, 239, 242, 244 
civil-military relations, 190 

research and development trends, 133 
Naval Weapons Laboratory, 20, 213, 214 
Navy Science Assistance Program, 33 
night observation equipment 
development of, 62 
Norden Bombsight, 21 

North American Aerospace Defense Command 
(NORAD), 19, 108, 135, 198 
North American Aircraft Corporation, 39 
nuclear bomber aircraft, 148 
nuclear power 

reactor at Naval Research Laboratory, 27 
SNAP-10, 111 

Nuclear Rocket Program, 111 
nuclear submarines 
development of, 24 
Thresher, 175 
nuclear tests, 73 
above-ground, 45 
Mike Shot, 163 
nuclear weapons 
"clean" weapons, 73 
tactical devices, 219 

Office of Naval Research, 7, 41, 85, 118, 191, 
220, 232 

Office of the Deputy Chief of Naval Material for 
Acquisitions 
re-organization of, 32 

Office of the Director of Defense Research and 
Engineering, 7, 13, 108, 110, 198, 204, 227, 
232, 243, 244 

Office of the Director of Navy Laboratories, 116 
establishment of, 59 

Office of the Secretary of Defense, 7, 13,42,43, 
60, 61, 76, 87, 88, 89, 95,98, 102, 105, 106, 

146, 150, 156, 173, 178, 203, 210, 217 
Base Utilization Division, 13 
Guided Missiles Project, 173 

Office of the Secretary of Defense for Research 
and Development (OSD R&D), 13 
Olds, Brig.Gen. Robin, 31 


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Operation CASTLE, 81 
Operation Mixmaster, 16 
Operation ROLLING THUNDER 

and electronic countermeasures (ECM), 39 
Operations Support Command, 15 
Oppenheimer, J. Robert, 219 
Ordnance Research Laboratory (ORL), 21 
Orion Program, 112 
P-3C, 119 
P-59, 195 
P-80, 195 
Pacer Scope, 121 

Pacer Stack/Speedline program, 57 
Pacific Air Forces Manual 55-25, 14 
Packard Commission, 18, 53, 94, 182 
Packard, David, 34, 100, 158 
Parsons, ADM William S., 11, 16, 17,21 
Peck-Scherer Harvard acquisition study, 174 
Penn State Ordnance Research Lab, 6 
Pennsylvania State University 

Applied Research Laboratory (ARL), 21 
Pentagon 

Air Staff Weapons Board, 19 
Strategic Plans Group, 19 
Permanent Joint Board of Defense, 30 
Perry, William, 39 
Petty, Charles, 45 

Planning, Programming, and Budgeting System 
(PPBS) 
reform, 94 

Polaris, 41, 65, 66, 79, 95, 134, 150, 180, 188, 
192, 193, 212, 215, 224, 225, 233, 238 
deployment, 41 
development, 41 
POM-102 drone, 137 
Power Plant Laboratory - WPAFB, 15 
precision emitter location system, 104 
precision guided munitions, 137, 149 
precision weapons, 10 
President's Committee on Scientists and 
Engineers, 38 
procurement 

"buy-American-only" policy, 86 
concurrency, 50 
post-World War II methods, 68 
role of Congress in, 50 
procurement - Air Force, 165, 195 
"try before buy" concept, 110 
aircraft, 220 
competition, 36 
missiles, 205 

procurement procedures - Marine Corps, 29 
program analysis, 39 


Program Evaluation and Review Technique 
(PERT), 93, 180 
program management 
"rocket czar", 12 

comparison of C-5 and C-141 programs, 50 
life-cycle costing, 195 
monitoring of contractors by DoD, 51 
Program Evaluation and Review Technique 
(PERT), 180 

project guidance methodologies, 41 
total cost concept, 22 
training of new program managers, 33 
program management - Air Force 
C-5A cost overruns, 15 
contractor "buy-ins", 15 
cost data development, 15 
program management - Navy 
management training, 214 
Project Feedback, 183 
Project FORECAST, 40,42, 205, 216 
Project Hindsight, 33 
Project LINCOLN, 181 
Project MAX, 104, 195 
Project MONEY TREE, 36 
Project Paperclip, 138, 148 
Project PAPERCLIP, 189 
Project Rand, 99 
Project RED HEAD, 121 
Project REFLEX, 7, 143 
Project SCOOP (Scientific Computation of 
Optimum Programs), 78 
Project Vista, 224 
prototyping 
competitive, 18 
Proxmire, Hon. William, 49 

aircraft refurbishment incident, 49 
Prudential Insurance 

role in Grace Commission, 229 
Pueblo incident, 48 
Puritano, Vincent, 27 
Quarles, Donald, 148 
R&D and the role of Army, 18 
radar, 37,71, 196,211,235 
radar absorbent materials, 26 
radar systems, 9, 22, 56 
ramjets, 18 

Ramo-Wooldridge, 98 
Raytheon, 96, 123 
RB-47,41 
readiness, 40 

Redstone Arsenal, 97, 145, 148, 194, 197, 244 
regulations 

300 series and large-scale systems, 104 


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Regulus missile, 66 
remotely piloted vehicles, 87 
research and development 

and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, 18 

basic research, 66, 81, 87 

comparison of U.S. and Soviet programs, 28 

compartmentalization, 14 

cooperative, 78 

decision making in Department of Defense, 
68 

during the Vietnam War, 39 
encroachment, 56 
funding, 14 

in the military services, 27, 39 
munitions, 72 
politics of, 70 
satellites, 18 

research and development - Air Force, 100, 211 
funding, 210 

post-World War II, 30, 64 
special weapons programs, 131 
research and development - Army, 182 
during the Vietnam War, 18 
relations with industry, 60 
role of Army Materiel Command, 18 
role of Congress, 60 

research and development - Navy, 13, 59, 119, 
144, 151,203 
aborted projects, 108 
administration, 56 
block funding, 213 
bureaucracy, 23 

bureaucracy before and after World War II, 
139 

civil-military relations as laboratories, 70 

compartmentalization. See security 

competition in, 190 

congressional influence, 13 

discretionary funding, 81 

effects of short officer tours on, 17 

full-spectrum laboratory concept, 153 

funding, 56, 115, 122, 134, 143, 153 

funding process, 100 

interaction with T&E elements, 109 

inter-war aviation, 22 

laboratory consolidations, 143 

laboratory management, 112 

labs versus contractors in, 103 

management, 122 

post-World War II, 17, 41 

reorganization, 12 

role of naval officers in, 94 

Sonobuoy, 99 


weapons, 17 
World War H, 22 

Research and Development Board, 108, 192, 
193 

research and development centers 
in-house compared to external, 16 
Research and Development Corporation 
(RAND), 18, 19, 22, 26, 27, 30, 31, 34, 39, 
58,61,67,78,81,88, 92,94, 100, 102, 111, 
117, 129, 130, 132, 133, 134, 145, 174, 183, 
187, 189, 199, 201, 204, 212, 224, 225 
contracts with Atomic Energy Commission, 
58 

contracts with Central Intelligence Agency, 
58 

research and development process 
and Congress, 18 
review councils 

Department of the Navy and OSD, 42 
Revolution in Military Logistics, 15 
Rickover, Hyman G., 34, 225, 240 
Rockefeller Fund report, 76 
rocket czar, 12 
rocket sled, 178 

rockets, 12, 15, 109,189, 204, 214 
ASROC, 64, 172, 222, 237 
BOAR, 33, 194 
folding-fin aircraft, 194 
Gimlet, 180 
hovering systems, 33 
Mighty Mouse, 215 
rocket sled tests, 178 
test accidents, 33 
V-2, 27 
Viking, 27 

wet ASROC (WAM), 222 
Rusk Development Company, 6 
Russo, Lt. Gen. Vincent M., 112 
SAMSO project, 98, 112, 154, 206 
Sanderson, Dr. John, 45 
satellites, 18, 33, 67, 68, 179 
development, 51,81 
MILSTAR, 140 
NAVSTAR, 206 

Navy development programs, 238 
RAND studies of, 201 
reconnaissance programs, 98 
surveillance, 206 

Schriever, Gen. Bernard A., 68, 74, 81, 135, 
206,216 

Science Advisory Committee, 26, 38 
Scientific Advisory Board, 204, 219 
Scientific Advisory Group (SAG), 178 


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Scope Creek Program, 179 
sea-based mobile logistics system, 16 
SEAC (Standards Eastern Automatic Computer), 
78 

Secretary of the Air Force 

relationship with Congress, 248 
security 

government surveillance of civilian plants, 15 
See Aerospace Guidance and Meteorology 
Center (AGMC)". 

shallow-water attack boat (SWAB), 36 
Sherwin Plan, 116, 157, 188, 227, 236 
shipbuilding, 139 

American industry, 34 
European industry, 34 
Japanese industry, 34 
privatization, 34 
SHORESTAMPS, 141 
Shuler, Marion, 45 

Side-Loading Aircraft Radar (SLAR), 130 
signal processing 
Proteus System, 238 
simulators, 39 

Skybolt, 19, 51, 68, 84, 87, 127, 145, 170, 177, 
180, 227, 228, 247, 248 
Skyrocket, 38, 65 

Small Caliber Ammunition Modernization 
Program, 184 
smart munitions, 15 
sole-source contracting, 146 
sonobouys, 99 
development, 119 
research and development, 119 
SSQ-15, 99 

South Vietnamese Air Force (VNAF), 46 
logistics problems, 46 
Spaatz, Gen. Carl, 245 
space 

military uses of, 74 

Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command, 

43, 72, 90, 126, 128, 142 
Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command 
(SPAWAR), 16, 23, 28, 32, 54, 55, 56, 59, 

72, 115, 117, 126, 128, 139, 140, 144, 152, 
153, 160, 161, 162, 163, 164, 165, 169, 183, 
187, 199, 202, 212, 226, 230, 233, 237, 241 
Space Flight Ground Environment Panel, 61 
space projects - Navy, 93 
Space Reentry program, 61 
Space Shuttle program, 61 
Space Surveillance System, 56 
Space Telescope, 93 
special weapons projects 


swimmer weapons, 88 
Sperry Gyroscope Company, 22 
Sputnik, 75, 76, 191, 237, 243 
SR-71,26, 112, 130, 180 
staffing 

research, development and acquisition, 53 
Standoff Target Acquisition/Attack System 
(SOTAS), 53, 54 
Stanford Research Institute, 77 
stealth technology 
development, 10 
Stevenson Plan (1951), 219 
Stewart, Harold, 45 
Strategic Air Command (SAC) 

45th Air Division, 24 
force structure planning, 80 
Strategic Defense Initiative, 94 
Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI), 106, 113, 
138, 148, 230 
Strategic missiles, 9 
streamlining, 83, 90 
submarines 
BARBEL, 66 
Los Angeles class, 29 
nuclear, 29 

Supersonic Transport (SST), 149, 228 
supply procedures - Marine Corps, 29 
Swofford-McNamara studies, 223 
Symington, W. Stuart, 106, 141, 149, 150, 223, 
224, 245, 246, 247 
system commands - Navy 

coordination of system development efforts, 
16 

system management 
within USAF, 248 

systems analysis, 39, 58, 117, 134, 170, 174, 
187, 224, 226 
at RAND, 19 
development of, 19 
practice of, 22 

Systems Development Corporation (SDC), 19, 
58, 133, 225 

systems engineering, 30, 74, 139, 161, 202, 212, 
238 

systems integration 
problems with, 23 
T-28, 198 
T-33, 135 
T-6, 135 

Tactical Air Warfare Center, 48 
Tactical Mobility Requirements Board (1961), 
70, 120 

Tanczoz, Frank, 192 


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target acquisition systems 
development of, 62 
targeting systems 
nuclear weapons, 22 
Taylor, Gen. Maxwell, 95 
Teapot Committee, 189 
Technical Development Papers 
use of in USAF, 102 
television sighting unit, 31 
Teller 

Edward, 27 

Teller, Dr. Edward, 219 
test pilots 

work in RDT&E programs, 20 
test ranges, 20 

testing and evaluation - Army 
consolidation, 228 
textile engineering, 29 
TF-102, 199 

TFX, 50,51,68, 165, 196, 247 
development problems, 50 
oppostion of Navy to, 51 
relations between U.S. Air Force and 
Congress on, 247 

Thompson Ramo-Wooldridge (TRW), 135 
creation of, 206 
Thor missile, 73 
Thresher, 175 

time compliance technical order (TCTO), 47, 57 
Tinian, 8 
torpedoes, 108 

"shoot-out" between Westinghouse and 
Clevite, 24 

Advanced Capability (ADCAP), 26 
Mark 25, 108 

Mark 48, 6, 24, 26, 31, 59, 69, 84, 108, 129, 
161, 186 

demonstrations, 129 
research and development, 24, 186 
test and evaluation, 26 
total package procurement, 50, 187 
Total Package Procurement (TPP), 10, 34, 158 
development and implementation, 50 
Total Qualilty Management (TQM), 27 
Total Quality Army, 15 
total quality management, 88 
TREES Program, 163 
Twining, Gen. Nathan, 76 
U Tapao Royal Thai AFB, Thailand, 68 
U.S. Army Electronics Supply Center, 8 
U.S. Army Signal Center, 7 
U.S.S. Arleigh Burke (DDG-51), 139 
U.S-Canada Air Defense Committee, 19 


U-2, 76, 82, 134, 189, 195, 206 
Under Secretary of Defense for acquisition and 
technology 
creation of, 94 

Unification Act of July 1947, 246 
UNIVAC, 78 

USA - Army Materiel Command (AMC), 18, 

54, 56, 86, 131, 191, 194 
USA - Army Missile Command, 191 
USA - Army Missile Command (MICOM), 51, 
53, 54, 154, 191, 194, 197, 244 
USA - Industrial Operations Command, 83, 124, 
133,215 

USA - Laboratory Command (LABCOM), 49, 
107, 176 

USA - logistics and procurement, 112 
USAF - 17th Air Force, 26 
USAF-20th Air Force, 75 
USAF-5th Air Force, 13 
USAF - 60th Military Airlift Wing, 48 
USAF-8th Air Force, 13 
USAF - Aerospace Research Laboratories, 41 
USAF - Air Defense Command (ADC), 19, 141, 
179 

USAF - Air Force Acquisition Logistics 
Division (AFALD) 
establishment of, 195 

USAF - Air Force Armament Test Center, 80 
USAF - Air Force Logistics Command (AFLC), 
36, 82, 98, 104, 121, 131, 136, 152, 154, 156, 
159, 170, 176, 181, 184, 189,193, 195, 221, 
225 

USAF - Air Force Systems Command (AFSC), 
9, 10, 11, 35, 68, 73, 77, 82, 84, 98, 100, 121, 
149, 151, 154, 163, 170, 171, 181, 193, 195, 
205 

acquisition and logistics, 126 
Air Logistics Division, 104 
creation of, 176 

effects of Vietnam War on, 100 
formation on, 164 

USAF - Air Logistics Command, 13 
USAF - Air Materiel Command (AMC), 13, 93, 
208 

USAF - Air Proving Ground Center, 137 
USAF - Air Research and Development 
Command (ARDC), 13, 53, 54, 68, 82, 84, 
142, 154, 178, 198, 205, 208 
creation of, 30 
development of, 68 
formation of, 61 

struggle with Air Materiel Command, 104 
USAF - Air Service Command, 60 


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USAF - Alaskan Air Command, 19 
USAF - Arnold Engineering Development 
Center (AEDC) 
establishment of, 63 
USAF - Continental Air Command, 30 
USAF - Military Air Transport Service (MATS), 
141 

C-141 program, 217 

USAF - Military Airlift Command (MAC), 49, 
131, 166,217, 234 

input about development of C-5A, 15 
USAF - Office of the Deputy Chief of Staff for 
Operations, 13 

USAF - San Antonio Air Materiel Area 
(SAAMA), 189 

USAF - Strategic Air Command (SAC), 24,40, 
45,49, 57,68, 75, 76, 81, 123, 130, 144, 145, 
174, 176, 189, 200, 201, 219, 231, 239 
USAF - Tactical Air Command (TAC), 18, 22, 
35, 48, 52, 55, 70, 71, 79, 80, 135, 155, 159, 
162, 164,219, 235 

USAF - Warner Robins Air Logistics Center, 82 
USAF Aerophysics Lab, 18 
USAF Aerospace Research Laboratories, 41 
USAF Aerospace Research Pilot School, 45 
USAF Scientific Liaison Office, 204 
USN - Bureau of Aeronautics, 99, 110, 217, 229 
USN -Bureau of Ordnance, 100, 108, 110, 141, 
192, 197, 198, 206,217 
USN "10th Fleet", 43 
V-2, 27 

Vandenberg, Gen. Hoyt, 245 
Variable Angle Launcher, 125 
Vertical Installation Automated Baseline, 30 
Vietnam Laboratory Assistance Program 
(VLAP), 33, 120, 141, 175, 197, 208, 214 
creation of, 33 


Von Braun, Werner, 18 
von Karman, Dr. Theodore, 74 
Vuono, GEN Carl, 182 
Wade, James, 27 
Wakelin, Dr. James H., 216 
Warfare Systems Architecture and Engineering 
(WSA&E), 23, 28, 55, 56, 72, 90, 113, 115, 
126, 128, 140, 144, 152, 160, 161, 164, 169, 
183, 187, 199, 202, 226, 233, 241 
Warner Robins Air Logistics Center (WR-ALC), 
18,25, 26,47, 128, 230 
Warner Robins Air Materiel Area (WRAMA), 
37, 62, 97 

Weapon delivery evaluation program, 14 
weapons development 
political aspects of, 32 

Weapons Systems Evaluation Group (WSEG), 
13, 22,60,99,132, 150, 181 
responsibilities of, 70 
Weinberger, Caspar, 10 
Westinghouse Corporation, 24, 84, 161, 226 
Wohlstetter studies, 187 

WR-ALC (Warner Robins Air Logistics Center), 
26 

WR-ALC Office of Small and Disadvantaged 
Business Utilization, 26 
Wright Field Aircraft Laboratory, 206 
Wright Field Laboratories, 30 
X-1,65, 66, 198,203,243 
X-15, 65, 199, 203, 236 
XA-59, 63 
XB-49, 198 
XF-80, 198 

XM8 Armored Gun System (AGS), 228 
XP-59, 63 

Zumwalt, ADM Elmo, 166 


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